Wasn't there a debate last night?
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Not much to talk about. Looks like it will be down to 4 before long. Trump, Cruz, Rubio with the last spot up for grab.
Kasich is basically along for the ride. Bush was marginalized as usual but he did ask if Trump could rethink his Muslim stance. Carson... Did he even talk?
Sounds like he's borrowing a play from the Trump playbook.I didn't see any of the debate last night, but I take it that NY isn't impressed with Cruz.
And some of the posters on here have been claiming what a genius Cruz is. [laughing] I don't think it's intelligent to piss off the city with the most voters in the US, nearly 8.5 million.
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It actually may be a genius move. Think about it...Trump alienated all Mexicans, Muslims, POW's, and a bunch of other groups and he's leading. Maybe the whole key to drawing GOP-type voters is to show how good you are at pissing people off..
I watched some and was absolutely bored. Same old crap and one can only take "blame Obama and Hillary for everything" for so long and this has been going on too long.
But the one new thing and what I wasn't expecting was blaming Obama for the release of the sailors from Iran the other day. WTF? Our sailors screwed up and got captured. Based on the improved relations with Iran, they were released within a day or so. No public posturing and no egg on anyone's face and these numbnuts that other numbnuts worship can find fault in Obama in this? And then of course somehow loop Hillary into it? I just don't get this latest fake outrage.
But the one new thing and what I wasn't expecting was blaming Obama for the release of the sailors from Iran the other day. WTF? Our sailors screwed up and got captured. Based on the improved relations with Iran, they were released within a day or so. No public posturing and no egg on anyone's face and these numbnuts that other numbnuts worship can find fault in Obama in this? And then of course somehow loop Hillary into it? I just don't get this latest fake outrage.
You're kidding me. Seems to me the whole thing with the captured sailors went smoothly...our sailors ended up in Iranian waters and were released the next day. Not sure what anyone can ***** about other than a faulty boat engine. This is simply artificial outrage.
I didn't watch but I'm sure i know the highlights:
Trump crowed about his poll numbers
Everyone hated on Obama
Everyone hated on Hillary
Everyone claimed the country is going to hell unless one of them is elected
The crowd cheered
Amiright?
I didn't see it either. Something about Trump and Cruz no longer a 'bromance', but that's all I know.
The two interchanges between those two idiots were won big time by Trump. I honestly believe Cruz will lose poll numbers on it. First one was the birther issue where Cruz made up a bunch of crap on elgiibility and somehow tried to convince people Trump may not be elgible because Trump's mom was born in Scotland. Absolutely stupid. Then the who NY value thing where Cruz is attempting to pander to right wing nuts by saying New Yorkers are lowlifes and that also backfired among most.
What an embarrassing group of people running for the most important office in the world. And that comment is not exclusive to just the GOP but Hillary and Bernie are not nearly as embarrassing then these whackos.
You fail to appreciate the stupidity of the people who will be voting in the GOP primaries. We are living in the age where facts are irrelevant in the GOP. Whoever gets the loudest cheers wins. Not who is the most factual and whoever makes the most sense.
Oh......I appreciate the stupidity of these voters. I assure you. I talk about it on here all the time.
What is just amazing, we are having debates in this country which represents our great democracy and this party is trying to win points on stupid topics such as the birther issue and "liberal NY values". And the GOP base just laps it up like the dumb lap dogs that they are.
This group of GOP frontrunners is the weakest I can remember in a long time. By far. Romney was way better, as was McCain. Hell I even would take Dub over Trump and Cruz and that is scary.
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And the debates aren't really revealing anything of value. It's nothing more than keeping your face in the news. Primaries can't get here fast enough.
I had it on while I was help my kids with homework, and then as I cleaned up the kitchen. Pretty tame debate overall from what I heard of it. Cruz came off as smug as usual, but Trump was much more subdued. Still a lot of how "fabulous" he will be as President, but not near as obnoxious as usual. Kasich sounded great but unfortunately he won't get any traction. Rubio comes across the best overall on stage, neither smug (Cruz), arrogant (Trump), whimpy (Bush), flighty (Carson).
I caught the second half of the debate, but I set up the replay to record. Rubio and Cruz were going at each other pretty hard over the tax issue. I was glad that someone (Rubio) finally pointed out that Cruz "abolishing the IRS" is still going to have to have an agency that is responsible for collecting taxes. Rubio also invoked the Reagan, calling Cruz's tax plan a VAT and lauding Reagan's analysis of VATs. Christie remained in the mix, if only by inserting himself when not questioned. I heard Kasich speak on 2 or 3 issues. As usual, I liked what he said, but he seemed like an aside more than an actual line - hey, let's cut to the most logical guy in the room for a point of view. Carson didn't say much, and he came across to me as a candidate who just wasn't feeling it any more. I won't be surprised if he bows out with a week of the NH primary. Maybe I'm reading him wrong, and he's just tired. At this point I think Bush is playing a losing hand. He had an opportunity to try to get in front of the Trump mess, and he passed it up. He'll hang in because he has enough money to hang around a little while, but he's a goner.
At this point, I think Trump wins Iowa, with Cruz taking second. NH is a harder pick. I think we see someone more mainstream win that one - maybe Kasich (this is probably just me hoping for sanity) or Rubio or possibly Christie. That opens it up, and I think we'll see the field drop to around 6 at most. I think SC could easily go to Trump - and then we have a real problem on our hands - unless you want Trump and his gold-plated toupee getting the nomination.
I didn't watch the undercard.
Kasich was my choice from the beginning, but his campaign flatlined from the beginning. GOP voters want flashy and loud.
I'd like to see Kasich get some form of bump, but I suspect it's going to take a major endorsement to have that happen. Hell, this thing could still be wide open after SC, but I suspect Trump will still be insurmountable.
There's still time. Lots and lots of time and probably 40-50 more of these GOP debates.I'd like to see Kasich get some form of bump, but I suspect it's going to take a major endorsement to have that happen. Hell, this thing could still be wide open after SC, but I suspect Trump will still be insurmountable.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Cruz would NEVER win NY.
I'd like to see Kasich get some form of bump, but I suspect it's going to take a major endorsement to have that happen. Hell, this thing could still be wide open after SC, but I suspect Trump will still be insurmountable.
Kasich in the VP slot?
Every time I think about it, I get sick to my stomach, as it keeps reinforcing my thoughts of Idiocracy.
Kasich is calm and reasoned and logical ... Trump and Cruz are ... well, Trump and Cruz. People talk a lot about how disingenuous Hiliary is, and that's exactly how I feel every time I see/hear Cruz talk. (I totally agree with that assessment of Hilary, just thought I should throw that out there) There is nothing about him that comes across as natural and sincere. It always looks to me that he's just a bad actor trying to play the role of the president in a B movie.
You're right about that. But Cruz is such a phony trying to be this every day, cowboy boot-wearing, hunting vest wearing , middle American. He went to Princeton and Harvard. He started his legal career clerking in DC. His wife works for Goldmann Sachs. He's the ultimate insider. He's a phony.
Yes...... they do it all the time just like you and many other far left libs on this board have done on many occasions.
My apologies, let me correct my statement: do you see any democratic presidential candidates insulting Texans? The answer is, no. They aren't that stupid.
I have to say you are on top of your game today for figuring out that politicians are phonies. I also have to give you special credit for realizing that a Republican event would include attacks on Hillary and Obama and the hand picked Republican crowd would cheer.
I myself thought he was a pretty decent possibility a couple months ago, but I'm less convinced today......primarily because I'm not sure he can guarantee (Trump) that he can deliver Ohio.
When the Ohio GOP recently announced their endorsement for Kasich, Tea Partiers.....who much prefer Trump, but really want Cruz.....in the state went absolutely ballistic; you know, those from the "if you're seen even speaking to a Dem, you're too liberal" wing of the party. Obviously, they'd vote for Putin before they're going to vote for a Democrat; but if enough of them are so PO'd they refuse to vote.....or else they find a 3rd party candidate......that number could swing a razor-thin margin (maybe as little as a few thousand votes) to Hillary.
That's not a prediction; just an observation.
They would if it played to their base. The difference is we have ONLY ONE democrat candidate while many of the Republican candidates think they have a chance. I know you don't actually think that Bernie and Martin have a chance against Hillary.
So, you admit that the Democrats (as a whole) don't get excited about their candidates that insult large numbers of people? The Republicans do that.
Yes, not in this election in regard to the Dems. I think you are smart enough to realize that Dems have insulted certain groups of people when the need arises.
I seem to recall Hillary outright reveling at the notion of making enemies of Republicans. Great way to get the country working together, right?
Considering that some inner city precincts voted 100% for Obama, how could insult them? They wouldn't know the difference one way or the other.
Indeed a hell of an impressive list when compared to the three put forward by the enemy