Watching some of the vids in the hit thread has me thinking....
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It always kind of irritated me when people would talk about how much he sucked. Hell, he holds just about every passing record at State. I remember one season, his last I believe, watching him hit receiver after receiver in the chest with the ball all year long only for them to drop it. One game after putting the 128th pass right on the money for the receiver to drop he held his hands up as to say WTF.
Fant was also a good one that caught a lot of flak. If he had the lines that Madkin played behind he would have re-written all of our record books and probably been drafted.
I just hope Russel has good protection...and receivers </p>
Fant was also a good one that caught a lot of flak. If he had the lines that Madkin played behind he would have re-written all of our record books and probably been drafted.
I just hope Russel has good protection...and receivers </p>
Average is about a million times better than anything we've had since Fant left and Crxxms screwed up Omarr trying to make him a pocket passer. I'd take Madkin back in a heartbeat about now.
I think Russell will have better numbers in a spread vs Jackie's three yards and a cloud of dust and lard. I'm going to gamble on the unknown and go with Russell. I think he has a chance to be really, really good. And we have a guy that knows how to develop QB's. All of that is in Russell's favor.
but I remember many, many times that he would have decent protection and just flat out miss his receiver. Out-routes in particular, he'd drop the ball 10 feet in front of the WR. He had a big arm and could throw the deep ball, but I never really was able to see him do that against anyone except Jacksonville State in '02. He hit Ray Ray on a go route in that game that seemed like it sailed 75 yards.
He did have a bad line, but a lot of those sacks he could have avoided. And he had a terrible habit of throwing the ball right to the DB at the worst possible times. And that's not even to mention that he 17ing walked out of the last 2 weeks of spring practice when he should have been learning the new offese from one of the few decent offensive coordinators we've had over the years.
& Co. in an offense with which he is familiar. Mullen, Koenning, and Hud is a very potent offensive coaching combination of experience and innovation that Madkin did not have.
I'm definitely wooly about MSU football right now.
BTW, who was the QB under Watson Brown (early 90s I believe)?
I'm definitely wooly about MSU football right now.
BTW, who was the QB under Watson Brown (early 90s I believe)?
I believe Fant was the best pure QB we've ever had at MSU.I doubt anyone who has ever played the position could take the beating he took and not be a little gunshy.I wish he could have played with Moulds he would probably have been all SEC.He was really a good QB.Tom Brady couldn't have produced with the line that Fant had to play with
I met Wayne in the gym in Hattiesburg not long after he graduated. I shook his hand, looked him in the eye and personally thanked him for the job he did here. Despite the detractors, the guy won. There are those of us who appreciate that.
And ... to repeat the question ... if Wayne Madkin was merely "average" then what does that say about the rest of our quarterbacks?
And ... to repeat the question ... if Wayne Madkin was merely "average" then what does that say about the rest of our quarterbacks?
Too many of my friends only know about him from his senior year and think he was trash the whole time. He was the best quarterback I've ever seen at State. He might not have been "great," but with our history at the position he was amazing. I long for the days of Madkin's first three years. Good times.
I know, everybody drinks in college but I would see Fant in the Hunt Club by himself so trashed he couldn't sit up. This was during the season. Of course he could have been drinking because we sucked.
The problem was his receivers looked epileptic when trying to catch the ball. For whatever reason they caught passes from Fant.