We all saw this coming, but for you delusional hoops fans....

[Son of 34]

Booker to Kentucky. I wonder if the recruiter could have landed him?***

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspo...4-shooting-guard-devin-booker-picks-kentucky/

 

[Hump4Hoops]

His top 5 for months have been UK, UF, Mich, Mich State, and Mizzou

At this point you're really reaching.

 

[KurtRambis4]

With the current

state of UK bball, they can pick and choose. We aren't going to be beating them for anyone.

 

[goodknight]

Why is that a surprise

he is from Michigan and had no real ties to MSU or Miss that I could tell. Do you know somethingdifferent?

 

[GloryDawg]

state of UK bball, they can pick and choose. We aren't going to be beating them for anyone.

Their coach has been busted every where he has coach and it is just a matter of time.

 

[Optimus Prime 4]

At this point I doubt it takes much cheating

Why wouldn't a top recruit play there? Awesome exposure, chance to win it all and a coach who likes one and dones, and has a proven record of getting guys drafted.

 

[Lawdawg.sixpack]

Exactly. If you're a top recruit with an opportunity to go there, you're dumb not to go to UK right now.

 

[ArcherSPS]

you hit the nail on the head brotha

 

[TBone.sixpack]

He really does have an easy sell. UK fans are more obnoxious than ever with him as coach.

 

[thatsbaseball]

When we lose a recruit...it`s always because somebody cheated

 

[olblue.sixpack]

Why wouldn't a top recruit play there? Awesome exposure, chance to win it all and a coach who likes one and dones, and has a proven record of getting guys drafted.

They lost a huge target when James Blackmon Jr, whose Dad played at UK committed it IU.

Cal is most certainly using the lure of money and cars to attract talent. But it isn't the standard pocket change deals that most people think of. He's using the millions his former players are making as his sales pitch.

 

[MississippiHeavyMetalDog]

- awesome exposure
- chance to win it all
- a coach who likes one and dones
- a proven record of getting guys drafted

Which of these is > than $?

UK doesn't trump $. Never has. Never will. If you think that Cal all of a sudden doesn't cheat because he's at UK, I don't know what else to say.

 

[whosyourdawgy]

Plus we have 25 point guards on the roster already right?

 

[Philly Dawg]

I doubt Stansbury would have signed him, he moved to Mississippi late and already had schools. Stans started recruiting a lot of Mississippi kids in 7th or 8th grade.

 

[mstateglfr]

Their coach has been busted every where he has coach and it is just a matter of time.

He was busted at UMASS? Ya sure? Camby took money from an agent. How is that on Calipari? It isn't. Just like it isn't on MSU coaches if/when our players do that.
He was busted at Memphis? Ya sure? Rose cheated on a test BEFORE he was even enrolled at Memphis. AND, the NCAA accepted Rose's test. How is that on Calipari? It isn't. Just like if/when an MSU player cheats on a test before he is a student at MSU, it isn't our coach's fault.

Lemme know the penalties Calipari has received for being busted.

Calipari may be as dirty as Pigpen, but saying he has been busted everywhere he has coached is completely wrong.

 

[Philly Dawg]

I think what he was aiming for was that Calipari left all of his prior schools on probation. I'm sure Calipari denies any involvement and that the repeated nature was just a coincidence.

 

[Son of 34]

I doubt Stansbury would have signed him, he moved to Mississippi late and already had schools. Stans started recruiting a lot of Mississippi kids in 7th or 8th grade.

Although I doubt the "ethics" behind Stansbury's recruiting, I never doubted his ability to land any given recruit.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those crazy 17s that still think we should have kept Rick. I just know he could land recruits that would leave the rest of the country scratching their heads.

I think He could've made a run at Booker 4 or 5 years ago.

(W

 

[Son of 34]

I doubt Stansbury would have signed him, he moved to Mississippi late and already had schools. Stans started recruiting a lot of Mississippi kids in 7th or 8th grade.

Although I doubt the "ethics" behind Stansbury's recruiting, I never doubted his ability to land any given recruit.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those crazy 17s that still think we should have kept Rick. I just know he could land recruits that would leave the rest of the country scratching their heads.

I think He could've made a run at Booker 4 or 5 years ago.

(What made me bring this up was I was listening to head to head earlier and they were talking about how premier basketball talent used to stay in-state).

 

[esplanade91]

For all of Stans' inability to coach in an actual game, he put guys who could straight ball on the court. I've heard some crazy stories of things he did to get some kids to consider us, but in all honesty I don't know how much that matters anymore. You could show a kid all the love in the world, but unless the players are issued Nike Hyperdunks and LeBron is BFF with the coach you're going to have a hard time landing a top 50 player.

I think MSU would be very wise to focus a lot of its efforts on inner-city Jackson, Bham, NOLA, Montgomery, and Memphis. There's a lot of talent in those areas that never go anywhere. I think if we could identify some of them early we could actually get a lot of them to qualify and hopefully they'd feel some kind of loyalty to us.

I guess it all goes back to recruiting kids in middle school. It worked for Stans for a reason.

And for what it's worth, I'm 100% fine with signing kids with baggage. That's the only way we're going to get some of these guys. We just need to handle them better by not rewarding bad behavior with 20 minutes of playing time and a start (Sid/Augustus style).

 

[hatfieldms]

Yeah Stansbury had NBA talent all over the country coming to MSU

He was a good recruiter but I think you are giving him a little too much credit

 

[fishwater99]

Although I doubt the "ethics" behind Stansbury's recruiting, I never doubted his ability to land any given recruit.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those crazy 17s that still think we should have kept Rick. I just know he could land recruits that would leave the rest of the country scratching their heads.

I think He could've made a run at Booker 4 or 5 years ago.

(What made me bring this up was I was listening to head to head earlier and they were talking about how premier basketball talent used to stay in-state).

Stans lost out or just missed on many a MS player during his time at MSU, so you are and idiot...

Othella Harrington
Jessie Pate
Ronnie Henderson
Litterial Green
Lorenzen Wright (memphis)
Mo Williams
Eric Washington
Antonio Mcdyess
Darius Rice
Justin Reed
Ronald Dupree
Trey Johnson

I am sure there are many more that I misses...

 

[mstateglfr]

I think what he was aiming for was that Calipari left all of his prior schools on probation. I'm sure Calipari denies any involvement and that the repeated nature was just a coincidence.

Ah, so the issue now is that he bolted each school when something major happened that he wasnt involved.
Gotcha.

And to that accusation, it looks like he is guilty. He is guilty of jumping to better situations when his current one hits a roadblock.

- Stay at UMASS after a Final4 is vacated due to a player being dumb for taking money from an agent or go coach in the NBA?
Tough call there.

- Stay at Memphis after a National Championship game and season are vacated due to a player being dumb for having someone else take a standardized test in high school or go coach at UK?
Tough call there.


Yep- he apparently leaves for better opportunities when the current jobs go to ****.
That is a totally different point than what the other poster was saying, but ok then- Calipari sucks because he likes greener pastures. That bastard.

 

[Son of 34]

That was in no directed to mean Stansbury was a great in-state recruiter, he was better out of state. But you can't deny that recently talent is leaving Mississippi to go else where (Johnny O and Pollard are 2).

 

[Faustdog]

He was a good recruiter but I think you are giving him a little too much credit

I agree with Hatfield. Stans won a bunch of games with some pretty mediocre talent.

 

[HD6]

All right, this should be fun.

First off, Litterial Green was a high school senior in 1988. Stansbury was at Austin Peay at that time.

Lorenzen Wright went to high school in Memphis, so I'm not seeing how that's a Mississippi player. I mean, you even put Memphis in parentheses, so you knew, but you still put him on the list.

Harrington, Pate, Henderson, Washington, and McDyess all signed when Stansbury was an assistant coach. We're really putting the fault on an assistant here?

Ole Miss had to hire Justin Reed's head coach as an assistant to get him. But Stansbury was the shady one.

Trey Johnson? The guy from Jackson State? We're calling him a premier high school talent? Could you reach any further?

I might be willing to concede Rice and Dupree, but seriously.

They guy is gone and isn't coming back, you can stop piling dirt on the grave.

 

[KurtRambis4]

Idiots

gonna idiot.

Also, I find it funny these people are ripping Stans for cheating, yet they rip Mullen for (and our compliance dept) for not cheating enough.

 

[fishwater99]

Stansbury was Rick's recruiter, that's what he did. I am not piling on Stans, he was a great recruiter.
My point is we never were able to keep all the elite High School talent in MS, even with Stans here, and we never will.

I was wrong on Green, sorry..

And I never ripped on Stans for cheating, he did what had to be done to get players to S-vegas...

 

[Philly Dawg]

Nobody is going to be able to keep all of the top MS high school talent in Mississippi. Stans was the first coach that was really consistently competitive in signing them, and often were able to get most of the the ones he wanted.

Other than Booker, who is sort of a special case, there really hasn't been a lot of players come through the state since Ray came in.

 

[olblue.sixpack]

I think MSU would be very wise to focus a lot of its efforts on inner-city Jackson, Bham, NOLA, Montgomery, and Memphis. There's a lot of talent in those areas that never go anywhere. I think if we could identify some of them early we could actually get a lot of them to qualify and hopefully they'd feel some kind of loyalty to us.

If you could float this idea to every guy who ever coached basketball at MSU, they would slap their collective heads and go "Why didn't I think of that?"

 

[olblue.sixpack]

I agree with Hatfield. Stans won a bunch of games with some pretty mediocre talent.

He was a good - not great - college basketball coach.

 

[tcdog70]

All right, this should be fun.

First off, Litterial Green was a high school senior in 1988. Stansbury was at Austin Peay at that time.

Lorenzen Wright went to high school in Memphis, so I'm not seeing how that's a Mississippi player. I mean, you even put Memphis in parentheses, so you knew, but you still put him on the list.

Harrington, Pate, Henderson, Washington, and McDyess all signed when Stansbury was an assistant coach. We're really putting the fault on an assistant here?

Ole Miss had to hire Justin Reed's head coach as an assistant to get him. But Stansbury was the shady one.

Trey Johnson? The guy from Jackson State? We're calling him a premier high school talent? Could you reach any further?

I might be willing to concede Rice and Dupree, but seriously.

They guy is gone and isn't coming back, you can stop piling dirt on the grave.

Thank You Sir, blame Stans for what he messed up, but please don't diss Him for **** He didn't do. As time passes Stans we look better and better

 

[tcdog70]

He was a good - not great - college basketball coach.

he was a top 3 SEC coach for ten plus years. Let's see how long before we can say that again

 

[olblue.sixpack]

he was a top 3 SEC coach for ten plus years. Let's see how long before we can say that again

I'm not holding my breath.

 

[esplanade91]

17 off troll.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

We hate mediocrity.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

We're the type of fan base that will

After a decade of cellar dwelling, stand up and scream "I'm tired of being terrible!" and do something that launches us into mediocrity.

After a decade (or less) of mediocrity, we will then stand up and scream "I'm tired of being mediocre!" then shovel **** directly in our own faces until we're in the cellar again.

Repeat.