We are now 11-8 with our 4 guard line-up...
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The sheep will keep preaching that Stans is a great recruiter and always wins the West so therefore we should keep him around. I agree with something Rosebowl said a few days ago, he said that Stans is pretty good at getting the guys he wants, but he could do a better job at his evaluations.</p>
and I know you're referring to the "sheep" responses to criticism, but the thing is that Croom spent years trying to convince the fanbase to excuse his poor performance because he was doing things "the right way". To be fair, I've never heard Stansbury say at a press conference or otherwise, "We may lose, but I'm a good recruiter." Pretty sure on that one, but correct me if I'm wrong. Comparing Stansbury to Croom is pretty baseless, but again, I see your point that others are using recruiting as an excuse on Stansbury's behalf.
I don't think recruiting is an issue, and if it is, it's not the main one. The bottom line, for me, is this: particularly over the last 5 years, what this staff possesses in recruiting ability it appears to lack in player development and retention. That's led to some pretty "unbalanced" teams, with players playing out of position, and younger players forced to contribute in big spots, etc.
I don't think recruiting is an issue, and if it is, it's not the main one. The bottom line, for me, is this: particularly over the last 5 years, what this staff possesses in recruiting ability it appears to lack in player development and retention. That's led to some pretty "unbalanced" teams, with players playing out of position, and younger players forced to contribute in big spots, etc.
Congratulations on our loss Coach. However, if you think we would have been even a nut hair better with Kodi and Osby starting then you are certifiably insane. Phil Turner at 6'3 and 179 lbs has given us more from the forward position than either of them would. Kodi freaking sucks.
...I've seen him be overwhelmed by more experienced players (notably against Nicholls State). I chalk that up to Osby adjusting to college basketball. I think this lineup is the best lineup we have for this season. Next season though, I expect much more out of Osby.
The other frontcourt players-- with the exception of Varnado-- have not stepped up, which is of course why Turner is playing.
The other frontcourt players-- with the exception of Varnado-- have not stepped up, which is of course why Turner is playing.
Jack, I think you're assessment here is off concerning our players. You do realize that Jarvis' freshman year he split time with Piotr Stelmach, don't you? Also, Romero was also offered by Kansas, Louisville, and Texas. So at least for Romero you can hold off on that statement. I can understand your sentiment however, because we absolutely suck in the post this year.
I might agree with you on Elgin Bailey, though. He's the least skilled guy on our team.
I might agree with you on Elgin Bailey, though. He's the least skilled guy on our team.
one of the stalwarts on the team this year, from what i have seen. he doesnt get caught out of position, rebounds a lot bigger than he really is, comes up with steals and 50/50 balls, and seems to hit a big 3 once or twice a game to start a run, or kill the crowd when on the road.
not the mvp, but probably the one guy who you know what youre going to get almost every game.
not the mvp, but probably the one guy who you know what youre going to get almost every game.
We only lose BJ and if SWAT makes the jump after a good SEC Tourney the we are screwed.
Stans should have gotten our Young Bigs more SEC expereince this year instead of his 4 guard failed experiment.
We will live and die by the 3 ball again next year...
Too bad Stans doesn't know how to implement an offense.
Stans should have gotten our Young Bigs more SEC expereince this year instead of his 4 guard failed experiment.
We will live and die by the 3 ball again next year...
Too bad Stans doesn't know how to implement an offense.
would that have made you happier?
would you want Stansbury back next year if the team was at or below .500?
would you want Stansbury back next year if the team was at or below .500?
...that the four guard lineup was a nice adjustment by Stans initially, and it paid dividends. The problem is that adjustments should be ongoing. It seems like Stans tries one thing and then sticks with it come hell or high water. Really, the four guard lineup is ideal for teams that zone us and/or don't want to run. In those cases, we should go to four guards, play pressure defense, speed up the game, and push it. But when we play teams that match up athletically, that philosophy is going to get us whipped, so we have to change it up. Some screen and roll or some high post cuts would be ideal. And when teams adjust to that, Stans needs to make the next adjustment.
I mean, it's almost Croom-esque...Stans is going to play it his way and it's going to work or not work, but we're not going to do anything else. The only difference is that it took Stans halfway through the season to even develop "his way" this year, which turned out to be the four guard lineup.
I mean, it's almost Croom-esque...Stans is going to play it his way and it's going to work or not work, but we're not going to do anything else. The only difference is that it took Stans halfway through the season to even develop "his way" this year, which turned out to be the four guard lineup.
Early in the year we were getting wide open looks shooting 40% + from 3, looking like super stars......everyone was happy.
Now defenses are extending to contest these shots, roughing up Jarvis and Ravern, and slowing us down into a half court game. We have no answer for this short of ball screens with Randy jacking up fade-away 3's at the last second as discussed previously by others.
Osby and Augustus have shown the ability to hit mid range jumpers. I say let Bost drive and dish to these guys and give Jarvis a little help with some bigger bodies. Brian Johnson obiviously disagrees with you too, but hey, keep on keepin on dude. I would love to see some sort of adjustment?
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Now defenses are extending to contest these shots, roughing up Jarvis and Ravern, and slowing us down into a half court game. We have no answer for this short of ball screens with Randy jacking up fade-away 3's at the last second as discussed previously by others.
Osby and Augustus have shown the ability to hit mid range jumpers. I say let Bost drive and dish to these guys and give Jarvis a little help with some bigger bodies. Brian Johnson obiviously disagrees with you too, but hey, keep on keepin on dude. I would love to see some sort of adjustment?
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it's not the right lineup for all games, particularly road games against teams that like to run (Auburn and Tennessee). It's also frustrating that as the season goes on, we're relying more and more on the 3-point shot. We've tried at least 30 of them in 3 of the past 4 games. We're a decent 3-point shooting team, but we're not good enough from behind the arc to be taking 30+ shots a game from there.
...we were a better shooting team, relying on that many three point shots is never, ever a good idea. It's simple math. A lower shooting percentage leads to fewer made baskets and more empty trips down the floor. Add in the rebounding disadvantage from that philosophy, and it's doomed. Our guards have to shoot it like they did against Arkansas every game to have a chance to win games, and that's just not going to happen.</p>
It is a big jump to say next year will be more of the same. Osby should be improved next season and everyone will be a year older. This isn't the NBA. Players do improve. Remember Varnado as a freshman? Remember Phil Turner just a year ago? I will admit that we need to go out and get maybe even a JUCO bruiser to give us some rebounding but I have not totally given up on Elgin like I have Kodi. At least I feel like Bailey is trying when he comes in.
I have been told by an extremely reliable source that Varnardo is very much thinking about skipping his senior year and entering the draft. I surely hopethis does not happen, because if it does, we are going to hurt.
I know he's got tremendous defensive skills, but he would do so much better to come back for another year.
He would have a pretty good chance of getting drafted this year in the 2nd round...
If he comes back and doesn't improve from this year, that would really hurt his draft status..
If he comes back and doesn't improve from this year, that would really hurt his draft status..
and pretty much kicked *** in the whole tourney. That's what got him drafted.
I see Varnado as a second round pick right now.
I see Varnado as a second round pick right now.