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shsdawg

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loose July 13th. I sure hope we were the ones that first reported this stuff.
 
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We must have the absolute dumbest boosters in the SEC. How

hard is it to hand over a bag of cash clandestinely to a player that signs with us? Geez, get a suitcase, fill it full of cash, take it over to the player's house, hand it to him, and keep your mouth shut. Then deny, deny, deny if the NCAA comes around. I bet that's how the Aubies and Bama boosters do it.
 

tenureplan

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Our boosters would have left the tag on the suitcase that they purchased with a credit card.
 

Maroon Eagle

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Gene Rayburn: MSU's Boosters are so dumb...

Audience: HOW DUMB ARE THEY?

matchgameku?
 

coach66

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It is less about being dumb and more about being egotistical

Boosters trying to be big shots is a common problem among all the fan bases and I would suspect 99% of the time goes unreported
and often involves non-cash type violations, yeah dumb ****. I think we are going to be ok.
 

Maroonthirteen

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So 17n Mississippi State. As soon as things are going in the right direction......17n it.


When do the penalties come out? After that big Auburn win? Yep, I fully expect that.
 

realistdog

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Wait...so we're saying we have to offer improper benefits just to get our bevy of 1, 2 and 3 star recruits?!! Please tell me this is not real.
 

DerHntr

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I guess I just don't understand the mindset of people with that kind of money. It would take an out of body experience for me to even imagine that I would enjoy giving money to a 17 year old kid during the recruiting process so that he would "maybe" play at MSU.

If someone told me they gave Cam Newton 50 grand to play at MSU the year after we won the national title, I wouldn't have even said thank you. I would have thought the guy was a dumbass.
 

Todd4State

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Sadly

I guess I just don't understand the mindset of people with that kind of money. It would take an out of body experience for me to even imagine that I would enjoy giving money to a 17 year old kid during the recruiting process so that he would "maybe" play at MSU.

If someone told me they gave Cam Newton 50 grand to play at MSU the year after we won the national title, I wouldn't have even said thank you. I would have thought the guy was a dumbass.


This is the environment that the NCAA has created themselves. Many of these players come from poor families and these football players can't "go pro" once they leave high school. They pretty much have to go to college.

With us, the issue has been more about covering up what we did and the athletic dept. handling the situation poorly in the past.
 

tenureplan

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When money isn't an object; fame, notoriety, and a feeling of importance take it's place I guess.
 

seshomoru

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Agreed

If you have expenses for 18 year olds not related to you in your budget, then you go around wanting people to know you make enough money to have expenses for 18 year olds not related to you in your budget.
 

FreeDawg

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If you have expenses for 18 year olds not related to you in your budget, then you go around wanting people to know you make enough money to have expenses for 18 year olds not related to you in your budget.

^^^^This^^^^
 

RiverCityDawg

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Actually, per the letter from our lawyer to the booster, we requested that he interview with the NCAA and he declined. We must not be afraid of what he would have to say.
 

Tomas Smid

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The absolute worst case scenario would occur if the NCAA establishes any coaches were aware of the payoff.
 

gravedigger

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Shows you how much we know about this 17ing game. First you tell the commissioner to keep it under wraps until late in the season when it's too embarassing for him to admit once one of his marketable teams is in the hunt for a big bowl payday. Then you dump a truckload of money in Birming17ingham.

we bought a 17ing sportscar that is so old it can have an antique tag.

We deserve anything we get for this dumb **** if we are actually guilty.
 

Tomas Smid

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Actually, per the letter from our lawyer to the booster, we requested that he interview with the NCAA and he declined. We must not be afraid of what he would have to say.

The University must cooperate with the NCAA by acceding to its demand that the booster testify. It has no choice.

If the booster does not refute the allegations, is there anyone else who will do so? If not, the NCAA will considered them undenied and accept them.
 

thatsbaseball

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Everyone is assuming this is a guy acting as an individual when there is a very good chance he was a bag man for a group. May be a good idea for him to take the 5th for the "team".
 

Maroonthirteen

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Not to mention, the player is 5'11" 175. How hard is it to find 5'11" 175lb players? You buy players which are in high demand....you know 6'2" and up. MSU Dumbasses.
 
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That's what I'm concerned about. If Mirando knew about all

this going on, even if no one else on the coaching/administrative staff knew, I could see the NCAA using that to hit us with the dreaded "Lack of Institutional Control". It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they use Mirando as an excuse to bring down the hammer on us. It will also be our luck that we'll go 11-1 this year, win the west, and find out midseason we get a bowl ban.
 
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patdog

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It's just the opposite. We let Mirando go once someone else found out what was going on and that he knew about it. That IS institutional control.
 

thatsbaseball

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Nope, That is self punishment after the fact. It`s a nice gesture but the "lack of instituional control" had already occured.
 

patdog

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Sorry, but you're wrong. Internal control is as much about taking appropriate action when you find that a violation has occurred as it is about preventing violations. No control can ever prevent a single rougue assistant coach from doing something stupid. Punishment after the fact would have been if we'd imposed some sort of penalty against ourselves, like limiting future recruiting trips or scholarships or something like that. Firing an assistant coach isn't a punishment against the school. It's taking appropriate action.
 

engie

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Nope, That is self punishment after the fact. It`s a nice gesture but the "lack of instituional control" had already occured.

You really don't understand "lack of institutional control" then and how it applies. We self-reported in Feb(as soon as we found out) and have worked WITH the NCAA ever since. That is picture perfect institutional control...EXACTLY how they want the system to work. You don't slam a team when the system is followed and works. No one has ever been hit by LoIC that didn't actively fight the NCAA or participate in a cover-up. Here is the exact bylaw, which we have followed at all 4 points.

A lack of institutional control is found when the Committee on Infractions determines that major violations occurred and the institution failed to display: (1) Adequate compliance measures. (2) Appropriate education on those compliance measures. (3) Sufficient monitoring to ensure the compliance measures are followed. (4) Swift action upon learning of a violation. [NCAA]

We won't be getting LOIC, and we won't be getting Failure to Monitor. Hence why this situation is minor in nature.
 
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thatsbaseball

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Maintaining institutional control is proactive not reactive. Mirando`s actions were our responsibility institutionaly at the time the occured whether you like it or not. We`ve punished him internally and will just have to hope the NCAA will say that the punishment is adequate and have mercy.
 

Shmuley

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Seems to me, institutional control is whatever the NCAA wants it to be.
 

thatsbaseball

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So what`s the concern? Why are we even having this discussion? The rules seem clear enough that we should walk without further questions being asked.
 

BehrDawg

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loose July 13th. I sure hope we were the ones that first reported this stuff.

Cutting boosters is so fabricated, it's a joke. If any SEC school actually "cut boosters" then we would be like the SWAC. A school can "cut a booster" without ever actually "cutting" them. I know this sounds strange, but it is fact.