We give Jeff another year. That’s all.

[CardX]

How long has that MFer been a HC? Does he feel so safe in his job security that he can coach like that, his team plays like that, and there are no consequences? This isn’t the first time, either. Though, today was particularly the worst. Maybe I’ll cool off tomorrow, but that was epically, historically, bad. Very bad. God awful. No ******* excuse for that.

He needs to win out or there will be a revolt, I don’t care what his last name is. Total crap.

 

[Knucklehank1]

Honestly one of the worst coached games I’ve ever witnessed. Brohm needs to get his **** together. We could’ve dominated the game running it down their throats instead he decided to play cute. F’ing abomination.

Obviously Ron English needs to be fired.

 

[Louis III]

I have no words right now.....

 

[TheRealVille]

It was a textbook example on how to blow a game. I don't think I care what happens the rest of this season. Of course I want to win but so what if we don't.

 

[earsky]

How long has that MFer been a HC? Does he feel so safe in his job security that he can coach like that, his team plays like that, and there are no consequences? This isn’t the first time, either. Though, today was particularly the worst. Maybe I’ll cool off tomorrow, but that was epically, historically, bad. Very bad. God awful. No ****ing excuse for that.

He needs to win out or there will be a revolt, I don’t care what his last name is. Total crap.

I didn't quite get to that in the other thread but yeah,I can't believe some of the things I saw at the end,nevermind the rest of the game

 

[TheRealVille]

Brohm's problem in my opinion is his stubbornness to be both the HC and the OC. He needs to concentrate on being the HC and stop constantly looking at his play cards the entire game.

 

[Thecycle27]

Never should have lost but firing him is emotional talk. Like there are better coaches for Louisville. If he can’t win here seriously doubt anyone else can.

 

[2330859]

During the 4th quarter of our win at Clemson, I remarked that Brohm’s decision to go conservative and “run the clock” may be following the old textbook that was used 20 years ago. However, the game as evolved significantly and letting off the accelerator only gives the opponent a huge advantage when trying to make up a couple of TDs.

In fairness, the defensive penalties certainly gave Stanford a boost, but I believe Brohm going conservative offensively in the third and fourth quarter contributed to Stanford’s ability to come back, just as Clemson did. Running the football on 1st and 2nd down puts a lot of pressure on Shough and our receivers to complete a pass on 3rd down to sustain the series. We did that successfully several times, until we didn’t ……… giving the ball back to the opponent, who will most assuredly use all 4 downs, is just an invitation to help them have a chance to get back in the game.

I have no interest in talking about a coaching change, despite these unexpected and humiliating upsets like yesterday. Personally, I believe that Jeff needs to learn a lesson here …….. don’t let off the offensive accelerator when ahead. Shough was picking Stanford’s secondary apart, and we should have added to the 15 point advantage, rather than going conservative when trying to eat up the clock.

 

[Thecycle27]

Offensive playing calling is really based off production. Vegas implied score was 38-17 The offense produced 35 points. They didn’t produce when they really needed it.

Brown gets hurt but Watson is a stud. It really boils down to the passing game again is OK. Not awful not great.

Tyler is good but he is zero threat to run. When the other team covers he doesn’t even look to run. How many times does a running QB on 3-5 or 3-10 make a play with their legs. Those extend drives. He done that maybe once or twice all year.

Receiver depth is a problem again. They are either no scheming people open or the receivers aren’t separating.

Line wasn’t the problem.

The defense is the problem. The offense isn’t good enough to cover for it. Not sure how anyone can watch that Stanford offense that can’t run the ball and a QB that was been a turnover machine say Louisville’s play calling was the issue. Our defense had to scheme up 2 guys to defend and the staff/players couldn’t do it. Again Riley a NFL corner, supposedly, was torched.

 

[Knucklehank1]

Offensive playing calling is really based off production. Vegas implied score was 38-17 The offense produced 35 points. They didn’t produce when they really needed it.

Brown gets hurt but Watson is a stud. It really boils down to the passing game again is OK. Not awful not great.

Tyler is good but he is zero threat to run. When the other team covers he doesn’t even look to run. How many times does a running QB on 3-5 or 3-10 make a play with their legs. Those extend drives. He done that maybe once or twice all year.

Receiver depth is a problem again. They are either no scheming people open or the receivers aren’t separating.

Line wasn’t the problem.

The defense is the problem. The offense isn’t good enough to cover for it. Not sure how anyone can watch that Stanford offense that can’t run the ball and a QB that was been a turnover machine say Louisville’s play calling was the issue. Our defense had to scheme up 2 guys to defend and the staff/players couldn’t do it. Again Riley a NFL corner, supposedly, was torched.

Good post. You kind of touched on this but I think in the college game you have to have a QB that is some threat to run. When the defense has to account for the QB as a runner it opens up so much. And for the sake of everything good can Brohm stop running an option play. He ran it one time when we were methodically moving down the field and it lost yardage. An option play with a qb that can’t or won’t run is just bizarre.

 

[Guardman]

During the 4th quarter of our win at Clemson, I remarked that Brohm’s decision to go conservative and “run the clock” may be following the old textbook that was used 20 years ago. However, the game as evolved significantly and letting off the accelerator only gives the opponent a huge advantage when trying to make up a couple of TDs.

In fairness, the defensive penalties certainly gave Stanford a boost, but I believe Brohm going conservative offensively in the third and fourth quarter contributed to Stanford’s ability to come back, just as Clemson did. Running the football on 1st and 2nd down puts a lot of pressure on Shough and our receivers to complete a pass on 3rd down to sustain the series. We did that successfully several times, until we didn’t ……… giving the ball back to the opponent, who will most assuredly use all 4 downs, is just an invitation to help them have a chance to get back in the game.

I have no interest in talking about a coaching change, despite these unexpected and humiliating upsets like yesterday. Personally, I believe that Jeff needs to learn a lesson here …….. don’t let off the offensive accelerator when ahead. Shough was picking Stanford’s secondary apart, and we should have added to the 15 point advantage, rather than going conservative when trying to eat up the clock.

Yeah, you could see the results of this BS approach in the 4th Qtr of the Clemson game. Terrible offensive strategy. Bad bad coaching.

 

[Cardiac Red]

He needs to win out or there will be a revolt, I don’t care what his last name is. Total crap.

Oh I think the revolt is underway already. We have a tailgate group text with around 30 people in and the they all had the pitchforks out lastnight. He can save some grace by winning out but if he doesn't and we get pounded by a weak *** ky team we will start next season with an empty stadium..

 

[Thecycle27]

Oh I think the revolt is underway already. We have a tailgate group text with around 30 people in and the they all had the pitchforks out lastnight. He can save some grace by winning out but if he doesn't and we get pounded by a weak *** ky team we will start next season with an empty stadium..

Just curious who would you replace him with?

He is not going anywhere, but he is going to have to figure out his defensive philosophy.

 

[CardsDan]

That was the most F-d up coaching job since Kragthorpe Syracuse.

 

[rh62531]

Played 10 on 11 on offense. Defense plays aggressive during early part of game, but that last few Stanford drives were poorly schemed. Seems that Ron English bestie knew everything he was calling.

 

[Realville502]

It’s hard to beat a team with 13 penalties. You would be hard pressed to find a pop Warner team with those stats. Terrible, especially the defense. Ron English won’t cut the mustard as far as championship caliber teams are concerned. And quite frankly I don’t know if Jeff’s offensive play calling will neither

 

[Thecycle27]

In their 4 losses they averaged 32 pts a game. That really should be good enough. I not sure I agree play calling is bad. I do think they haven’t executed the call but that doesn’t mean it was a bad call. You get stuffed on 3rd-1 or 4th-1 someone missed a block.

The 3rd down call that Bell dropped or Shough missed was a good call he was going to go for another 10-20 yards. Good call not executed. The long throw Shough missed with Brooks he was open it was a bad throw. They are college kids they aren’t going to operate efficiently all the time. Plus defenses call the right plays too and they execute.

The issue is the defense. The question is can they have a championship level staff and players. I think that is unlikely.

 

[CardX]

How long has that MFer been a HC? Does he feel so safe in his job security that he can coach like that, his team plays like that, and there are no consequences? This isn’t the first time, either. Though, today was particularly the worst. Maybe I’ll cool off tomorrow, but that was epically, historically, bad. Very bad. God awful. No ****ing excuse for that.

He needs to win out or there will be a revolt, I don’t care what his last name is. Total crap.

Update: I have not cooled off. What an abomination that was. No excuse. None.

 

[Cardiac Red]

Just curious who would you replace him with?

He is not going anywhere, but he is going to have to figure out his defensive philosophy.

I'm not saying replace him yet but he needs a pep talk from Heird at minimum.. His history of losing to turd teams after big wins has to be addressed.. Send him to a sports shrink or something.. I do think English needs to be gone, unless, Brohm has a hand in the defensive play calling (which I doubt, but)..

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood_rivals307205]

LOL!

He wins 10 year one puts you in the ACCT game for the first time ever and he's getting that near future ultimatum the next year at 6-4 a week after beating Clemson for the first time in program history.

No doubt this loss was bad, and his clock mgt in the final 15 seconds is frightening and can't happen again. If that becomes a trend or something sure everything needs to be on the table.

The season didn't go as fans hoped, and it's very possible they've won their last game they are going to win for the year.

But you don't have a super talented team, more than likely never will have one in the future, probably because your bigger problem is you don't have the NIL $ to compete with flagship programs. So musical chairs for your HC probably ain't your answer. You probably need to reassess all of this and what you're hoping for as a fan.

Your margins are thin most weeks given your roster. They needed everything they had to be Virginia, who is also terrible. Same with BC who is a very mild upgrade and still pretty bad if we're being honest.

But on other days the Cards can go toe to toe with more talented programs like Clemson and ND. Probably, because the HC you are mad at can coach.

The guy you have loves it here, though it is possible some fans could make him rethink that. That's not to say he gets a pass but if you're thinking this way you probably need to find a new hobby.

 

[CardX]

LOL!

He wins 10 year one puts you in the ACCT game for the first time ever and he's getting that near future ultimatum the next year at 6-4 a week after beating Clemson for the first time in program history.

No doubt this loss was bad, and his clock mgt in the final 15 seconds is frightening and can't happen again. If that becomes a trend or something sure everything needs to be on the table.

The season didn't go as fans hoped, and it's very possible they've won their last game they are going to win for the year.

But you don't have a super talented team, more than likely never will have one in the future, probably because your bigger problem is you don't have the NIL $ to compete with flagship programs. So musical chairs for your HC probably ain't your answer. You probably need to reassess all of this and what you're hoping for as a fan.

Your margins are thin most weeks given your roster. They needed everything they had to be Virginia, who is also terrible. Same with BC who is a very mild upgrade and still pretty bad if we're being honest.

But on other days the Cards can go toe to toe with more talented programs like Clemson and ND. Probably, because the HC you are mad at can coach.

The guy you have loves it here, though it is possible some fans could make him rethink that. That's not to say he gets a pass but if you're thinking this way you probably need to find a new hobby.

Hi, Trinity alum. You’re missing the brevity of the situation. Cards were ranked. Cards were getting respect in the playoffs vote. There was huge momentum after the Clemson win.

They shat the bed against one of the worst teams in college football. It was bad. Embarrassing. Disgusting. Brohm is not a great coach. He isn’t close to being good. He drops the ball so frequently.

 

[2330859]

In their 4 losses they averaged 32 pts a game. That really should be good enough. I not sure I agree play calling is bad. I do think they haven’t executed the call but that doesn’t mean it was a bad call. You get stuffed on 3rd-1 or 4th-1 someone missed a block.

The 3rd down call that Bell dropped or Shough missed was a good call he was going to go for another 10-20 yards. Good call not executed. The long throw Shough missed with Brooks he was open it was a bad throw. They are college kids they aren’t going to operate efficiently all the time. Plus defenses call the right plays too and they execute.

The issue is the defense. The question is can they have a championship level staff and players. I think that is unlikely.

No disagreement there Cycle, the point that I am making is the pressure we assume in having to complete a pass on third or forth down consistently.. We were successful a few times, but it is unreasonable to expect the QB and the intended receiver to connect every series. I am not suggesting an abandonment from our running game, as Watson demonstrated just how effective it can be on his 60+ yard TD. It was how the game changed after that score went up to 15 points, as Stanford adjusted their defense from that point on to stop the run on 1st and 2nd down, just as Clemson had done in the fourth quarter in Death Valley. Our opponents recognized that Brohm was intent on running the clock rather than continuing to try and score.

When we had possession of the football with the 15 point lead, Brohm should have stayed with the success we were having with our passing game on 1st and 2nd down, as witnessing Stanford’s defense had adjusted, knowing Brohm wanted to run the ball as a way to run the clock. We were fortunate that it worked against Clemson, but only a result of their inability to execute as effectively as Stanford did to make up the 15 point deficit.

I agree with Dan; the collapse Saturday was reminiscent of Kragthorpe’s loss to Syracuse; “we stole defeat from the jaws of victory”.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood_rivals307205]

Hi, Trinity alum. You’re missing the brevity of the situation. Cards were ranked. Cards were getting respect in the playoffs vote. There was huge momentum after the Clemson win.

The closest I've been to Trinity is driving by it.

You misunderstood what was happening with this team. The win over CU was the standard mild upset you see and more of an indictment on how CU continues sliding back to the pack. A 2-game win streak that includes BC is not huge momentum. it's just a couple wins in a row.

Brohm doesn't get one year after this one either, unless he chooses to leave. Maybe if he loses 12 out of the next 13 or something like that he'd get shown the door. Unlikely, but I guess that's all that is left for you.

Brohm is not a great coach. This is not a great program. You don't get a great coach. If you demand a great coach, you need to root for a flagship program.

UofL does not have the resources or NIL to consistently compete with top dogs and give you 10-win seasons on the reg. Nothing new.

 

[beantowncard]

Hi, Trinity alum. You’re missing the brevity of the situation. Cards were ranked. Cards were getting respect in the playoffs vote. There was huge momentum after the Clemson win.

They shat the bed against one of the worst teams in college football. It was bad. Embarrassing. Disgusting. Brohm is not a great coach. He isn’t close to being good. He drops the ball so frequently.

I think you mean “gravity”

 

[Thecycle27]

Find me a coach at any level consistently wins at a championship level with less talent or equal talent. That is the reality. Yes, any team can find lightning in a bottle but to be consistently at the top you have to have the better rosters and coaching staff. Also those teams that are less talented has to catch a break in their schedule i.e Indiana.

I think Jeff is a good coach. I think Satterfield is a good coach. They were both limited because of their talent. Same goes for basketball Mack and Kelsey are good coaches. However no coach is going to out-scheme teams at this level. The best coaches have good schemes and they recruit at a high level.

The ACC talent level amongst its teams is basically level. The SEC is the same within their conference the talent level is basically the same. That is why we are seeing parity set in within each conference. That is why every week is a battle unless a team just has a bad game.

The Stanford game exposed the defensive staff. That is my take away. They had 2 weeks to prepare for a bad offense that had 2 options on offense. They did zero scheme wise to take away those options. It also exposed the talent level on the defense. You can’t get torched like that and say man that team has dudes. Just the opposite.

 

[TheRealVille]

There's no question that Jeff Brohm has had a successful career as a head coach. He actually got Purdue respectable and proved that he was a hands on head coach with big aspirations.

However, after taking the job at Louisville he has to realize this is not Purdue and even though fans were pumped he was hired, they're not going to sit back and excuse performances that we saw against Stanford.

Now logic dictates there's little chance Brohm would be fired if next season doesn't meet expectations, but the way things have been going on with Louisville sports, fans are just going to get more apathetic.

Not only did the Cards lose as a 21 point favorite, they did it like they have zero discipline and accountability. The penalties throughout the game was never addressed and it literally caused the loss at the end. I mean why would Riley try to block a 57 yard FG? Didn't any coach tell the players not to go offsides? Don't risk a closer FG with a penalty.

Most likely it wasn't Brohm who was no doubt looking at his play cards in preparation for overtime.

Jeff Brohm's title is head coach but his desire, what he lives for, is calling plays during the game. I think in just this short two season example, Brohm has shown to me that he's not yet great as a head coach. He may look like it when he has a great QB and skill position players, but overall he lacks the skills needed to manage the entire game and not just the offense.

For years I thought it just had to be coincidence or just a fluke all those bad upset losses right after a big win, but after the Stanford debacle, it has to be something he's doing or not doing.

The fans are not just disappointed but they're pissed. We're done with the BS and even though we were in love with hiring the former Cardinals great, he will receive no quarter from a fanbase when his team embarrasses us.

I for one am one fan who will no longer complain about Louisville football being disrespected. The debacle against Stanford is what stays in the minds of football pundits and they can never fully trust the program. After all, Lamar Jackson wins the Heisman while the Cards lost their last three games.

Something we saw last season and will may likely see again this season.

This is why fans are ready to jettison Jeff Brohm. It's either that or the game of college football. It's not worth the pain anymore.

 

[nccardfan]

There's no question that Jeff Brohm has had a successful career as a head coach. He actually got Purdue respectable and proved that he was a hands on head coach with big aspirations.

However, after taking the job at Louisville he has to realize this is not Purdue and even though fans were pumped he was hired, they're not going to sit back and excuse performances that we saw against Stanford.

Now logic dictates there's little chance Brohm would be fired if next season doesn't meet expectations, but the way things have been going on with Louisville sports, fans are just going to get more apathetic.

Not only did the Cards lose as a 21 point favorite, they did it like they have zero discipline and accountability. The penalties throughout the game was never addressed and it literally caused the loss at the end. I mean why would Riley try to block a 57 yard FG? Didn't any coach tell the players not to go offsides? Don't risk a closer FG with a penalty.

Most likely it wasn't Brohm who was no doubt looking at his play cards in preparation for overtime.

Jeff Brohm's title is head coach but his desire, what he lives for, is calling plays during the game. I think in just this short two season example, Brohm has shown to me that he's not yet great as a head coach. He may look like it when he has a great QB and skill position players, but overall he lacks the skills needed to manage the entire game and not just the offense.

For years I thought it just had to be coincidence or just a fluke all those bad upset losses right after a big win, but after the Stanford debacle, it has to be something he's doing or not doing.

The fans are not just disappointed but they're pissed. We're done with the BS and even though we were in love with hiring the former Cardinals great, he will receive no quarter from a fanbase when his team embarrasses us.

I for one am one fan who will no longer complain about Louisville football being disrespected. The debacle against Stanford is what stays in the minds of football pundits and they can never fully trust the program. After all, Lamar Jackson wins the Heisman while the Cards lost their last three games.

Something we saw last season and will may likely see again this season.

This is why fans are ready to jettison Jeff Brohm. It's either that or the game of college football. It's not worth the pain anymore.

I'm beginning to question whether if Brohm is a good HC or just a slightly better OC who can come up with great plays if he has the players to execute them? Did those wins at Purdue as a HC come because his offenses were able to overcome mediocre defenses? Well, its not happening here in the ACC. I seem to think he has had two better than average QB's in his system, damn good RB's (Gurrendo is earning time in the NFL) and good WR's. Several posters are saying Jeff needs to stop calling the offensive plays and be the HC. Maybe so but not every good OC makes a good HC, especially if you're trying to overcome a bad defense and frequent penalties.

 

[CardsDan]

Fickel just fired his OC after Wisconsin's loss Saturday. Norvell has fired DC and OC. I'd like to see a little bravery from JB to pull the trigger and get rid of English today. Not being able to protect a 15 point lead with less than 10 minutes left in the game without any turnovers should be a very fireable action.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood_rivals307205]

Some fans just don't understand the new landscape. City college doesn't have the resources and NIL to get you the desired talent you've never had anyway.

You are left as a similar player to 50 other middling programs. You can beat and lose to anybody, your margins are thin. You don't have the horses and NEVER WILL.

People need a new hobby.

Good luck.

 

[earsky]

your margins are thin.

 

[Thecycle27]

Some fans just don't understand the new landscape. City college doesn't have the resources and NIL to get you the desired talent you've never had anyway.

You are left as a similar player to 50 other middling programs. You can beat and lose to anybody, your margins are thin. You don't have the horses and NEVER WILL.

People need a new hobby.

Good luck.

100 percent agree when you start comparing to the SEC. Where I would fight back a little is they do have the resources to compete in the ACC. It is a thin margin regardless.

With that said they have shown the ability to build rosters to be competitive in ACC. This year was one of those years where they literally got zero breaks plus completely misevaluated their defensive talent. Riley and Gillotte regressed. Adding weight to Gillotte has impacted is quickness. He used to be explosive off the edge now he is strictly a bull rusher. Reager getting hurt plus Barron leaving really impacted edge rushers.

The goal is to be compete for ACC title. I believe that is completely possible but the SEC and Big Ten are going to dominate because they have better and more high end talent. They are more vulnerable but still way ahead of the rest.

 

[CardX]

Some fans just don't understand the new landscape. City college doesn't have the resources and NIL to get you the desired talent you've never had anyway.

You are left as a similar player to 50 other middling programs. You can beat and lose to anybody, your margins are thin. You don't have the horses and NEVER WILL.

People need a new hobby.

Good luck.

All of what you said might be true in this post and your previous one about the University of Louisville. That said, losing to Stanford as a 20.5 point favorite has nothing to do with your feelings towards "City College." And regardless the landscape, the Cards have proven time and time again they can run with the big dogs. Talent matters, yes, absolutely. So does coaching, and Brohm continues to show us his warts.

 

[Thecycle27]

What coach doesn’t have warts? They all have issues but the ones with less talent have more.

Let’s be clear players talent impacts the ceiling for all coaches. A requirement to be a great coach is they have to have great players. There are zero great coaches that didn’t have great players. Coaches are only a good as their players talent level. End of story. You can be a ****** coach but if you can recruit you have less warts than a good coach with a ****** roster. We have watched it down the road Cal acquired talent and Pitino recruited OK. The average coach beat the day lights out of one of the best coaches in college basketball history.

The only thing to really debate is can any coach attain enough talent to compete for ACC titles. Go down the list of programs doesn’t matter. When our coaches have talented players they win. When they don’t the struggle. It really is that simple. Folks that want a coaching change need to guarantee that next coach attracts talent.

 

[nccardfan]

What coach doesn’t have warts? They all have issues but the ones with less talent have more.

Let’s be clear players talent impacts the ceiling for all coaches. A requirement to be a great coach is they have to have great players. There are zero great coaches that didn’t have great players. Coaches are only a good as their players talent level. End of story. You can be a ****** coach but if you can recruit you have less warts than a good coach with a ****** roster. We have watched it down the road Cal acquired talent and Pitino recruited OK. The average coach beat the day lights out of one of the best coaches in college basketball history.

The only thing to really debate is can any coach attain enough talent to compete for ACC titles. Go down the list of programs doesn’t matter. When our coaches have talented players they win. When they don’t the struggle. It really is that simple. Folks that want a coaching change need to guarantee that next coach attracts talent.

So is Ryan Day now a great coach because he's winning or is it because Harbaugh left to go to the NFL? Is Alabama the same great team or is it because Saban retired? Is Oregon suddenly great or is it because Harbaugh and Saban are not coaching anymore.

 

[nccardfan]

Fickel just fired his OC after Wisconsin's loss Saturday. Norvell has fired DC and OC. I'd like to see a little bravery from JB to pull the trigger and get rid of English today. Not being able to protect a 15 point lead with less than 10 minutes left in the game without any turnovers should be a very fireable action.

I understand that sentiment but making changes at the DC was evident a few games ago. Before Brohm does it now, he had better look in the mirror first and ask himself "was it English's fault that I decided to go on 4th and 10" or why we kept chucking the ball deep... Yes, we came blame our defense but our HC deserves a lot of it himself and I think the coaching world knows that.

 

[Thecycle27]

So is Ryan Day now a great coach because he's winning or is it because Harbaugh left to go to the NFL? Is Alabama the same great team or is it because Saban retired? Is Oregon suddenly great or is it because Harbaugh and Saban are not coaching anymore.

Not sure but he is a great recruiter. He is closer to great than others because the talent he acquires. I do know Ryan Day at Louisville would be no different than Brohm if he had the same talent as Louisville. I am not sold he would recruit that much better. Now Sanders is a fascinating study. No one thinks he is staying at Colorado. As soon as he leaves watch than ship sink.

I think if Brohm moves on DC wise he has to land dynamic recruiters at every position. His offense recruits itself. Defensive staff needs recruiters. May have to take a risk in a young SEC position coach that is a terrific recruiter or a DC that had strong recruiting and coaching relationships.

 

[TheRealVille]

I just don't buy this talent excuse for the Cards loss to Stanford or the other three games. I agree Louisville doesn't have national championship talent and may never have, but they are underachieving this season with the talent they do have.

The undisciplined play and behavior we saw against Stanford is clearly on the coaching staff and it's been there all season. Why hasn't Brohm put that **** to bed? I think it's because he's too busy trying to coordinate the offensive plays.

A couple of games ago Chris Bell had a very selfish personal foul penalty and should have been benched, but there he was, right back out there the next series.

The more games Louisville plays under Jeff Brohm the more it looks like him handling both the offensive duties and the HC duties is not working out like everyone wants. Talent or not, the HC has to have a hold on discipline and accountability.

Unfortunately, it took an embarrassing defeat at Stanford for many to realize it, including Brohm himself.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood_rivals307205]

All of what you said might be true in this post and your previous one about the University of Louisville. That said, losing to Stanford as a 20.5 point favorite has nothing to do with your feelings towards "City College." And regardless the landscape, the Cards have proven time and time again they can run with the big dogs. Talent matters, yes, absolutely. So does coaching, and Brohm continues to show us his warts.

My reference to city college isn't about feels, it's about what is on the roster and who your HC and staff are, and what kind of $ players and staff make which does have a direct impact on the outcome of all the games, not just the games where we like the results.

We can't miss on players we spend on. Lacy is a massive fail for this program. Fans say next man up. You lost your slot WR before you even lost Lacy. There's only so much $ to go around to hit depth.

That $ spent on Lacy could have been allotted to the defensive side of the ball on a player (s) that give you more than a few games. We don't have the resources to recover from a swing and miss like that. We like our QB but the guy literally can't run for first downs.

tOSU is tied with NW halfway through the 2nd Q. They are playing like hot garbage. They score 0 in the 1st Q with NFL guys up and down their roster against effing Northwestern.

But they have the talent to ultimately pivot out of that and win easily. We can't do that. We couldn't against Virginia, BC, or Stanford. So Saturday isn't an anomaly, it's part of what we are and who we have. A team that can beat some decent teams but also lose and/or struggle vs bad teams. It's more about your resources and less about "coach bad".

UofL Sugar Bowl arguably best ever team lost to Syracuse and UCONN. Keep in mind that Sugar Bowl is not part of the modern era anymore. We're in a new world where BYU is offering the #1 BB player millions. Meanwhile, we're signing Vanilla Ice who I really like, from USF.

If Brohm's giving you a trend of 6-8 win seasons like Satt you turn the page. But he won 10 year one and put you in the only ACCT game you've ever played in. No perspective. It's just ridiculous to be coming after him how some people are. He wants to be here, and none of your prior coaches wanted to be here.

But it's okay to agree to disagree.

 

[LouCards13]

UofL Sugar Bowl arguably best ever team lost to Syracuse and UCONN.

I know it’s besides the point, but UofL only lost 1 game the year they won the Sugar Bowl (UCF)

 

[Thecycle27]

We are discussing big picture not why they lost to Stanford. The thread is discussing firing Brohm next year which is fine. Some of us are pointing out acquiring talent is a huge challenge for Louisville. The limited talent exposing all these teams to losses. Unless the new guy can recruit unlike anyone else to walk that sideline we will be replacing him sooner than later.

Stanford specific how can you watch what their receivers did against our best cover corner and say Riley was more talented. In some ways I get the line of thinking from the staff my corners are good enough to cover their guys. Problem is your potential NFL corner was beat over and over again in single coverage. When key players have a bad game you can be beat by anyone.