We will go 6-6...

[BogeyGolfer.sixpack]

I was going to reply to Coach's post but that thread turned into a pissing match...<div>
</div><div>We will beat JSU, MTSU, Troy ( struggle but win), South Alabama, UK ( about the same as last year...14 points or less), Ole Miss ( 14 points or less).</div><div>Why do I have to keep posting that Auburn has more talent andtheirrecord against us the last few years? We lose to Auburn by 7 or more points, and we will lose to A&M and Ark. We can't beat anyone that has a pass happy offense with equal talent. In the past, we have been too slow to adjust, we seem to want to play off the line ofscrimmageto avoid the big pass but never adjust. The only game I see us having a chance to pull an upset is the Tenn game. If we canestablishthe run against their weak D Line, I think we may be able to beat them at home but it will be a close game as well. So, 7-5 is an outsidepossibility. If I'm wrong, I will be the first to admit it, but I'm usually right.We will probably end up in Liberty orIndependenceBowl and that is an improvement from the past decade minus the last 2 years....Roughly same season as last year
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[BogeyGolfer.sixpack]

I was going to reply to Coach's post but that thread turned into a pissing match...<div>
</div><div>We will beat JSU, MTSU, Troy ( struggle but win), South Alabama, UK ( about the same as last year...14 points or less), Ole Miss ( 14 points or less).</div><div>Why do I have to keep posting that Auburn has more talent andtheirrecord against us the last few years? We lose to Auburn by 7 or more points, and we will lose to A&M and Ark. We can't beat anyone that has a pass happy offense with equal talent. In the past, we have been too slow to adjust, we seem to want to play off the line ofscrimmageto avoid the big pass but never adjust. The only game I see us having a chance to pull an upset is the Tenn game. If we canestablishthe run against their weak D Line, I think we may be able to beat them at home but it will be a close game as well. So, 7-5 is an outsidepossibility. If I'm wrong, I will be the first to admit it, but I'm usually right.We will probably end up in Liberty orIndependenceBowl and that is an improvement from the past decade minus the last 2 years....Roughly same season as last year
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[BogeyGolfer.sixpack]

I was going to reply to Coach's post but that thread turned into a pissing match...<div>
</div><div>We will beat JSU, MTSU, Troy ( struggle but win), South Alabama, UK ( about the same as last year...14 points or less), Ole Miss ( 14 points or less).</div><div>Why do I have to keep posting that Auburn has more talent andtheirrecord against us the last few years? We lose to Auburn by 7 or more points, and we will lose to A&M and Ark. We can't beat anyone that has a pass happy offense with equal talent. In the past, we have been too slow to adjust, we seem to want to play off the line ofscrimmageto avoid the big pass but never adjust. The only game I see us having a chance to pull an upset is the Tenn game. If we canestablishthe run against their weak D Line, I think we may be able to beat them at home but it will be a close game as well. So, 7-5 is an outsidepossibility. If I'm wrong, I will be the first to admit it, but I'm usually right.We will probably end up in Liberty orIndependenceBowl and that is an improvement from the past decade minus the last 2 years....Roughly same season as last year
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[BogeyGolfer.sixpack]

I was going to reply to Coach's post but that thread turned into a pissing match...<div>
</div><div>We will beat JSU, MTSU, Troy ( struggle but win), South Alabama, UK ( about the same as last year...14 points or less), Ole Miss ( 14 points or less).</div><div>Why do I have to keep posting that Auburn has more talent andtheirrecord against us the last few years? We lose to Auburn by 7 or more points, and we will lose to A&M and Ark. We can't beat anyone that has a pass happy offense with equal talent. In the past, we have been too slow to adjust, we seem to want to play off the line ofscrimmageto avoid the big pass but never adjust. The only game I see us having a chance to pull an upset is the Tenn game. If we canestablishthe run against their weak D Line, I think we may be able to beat them at home but it will be a close game as well. So, 7-5 is an outsidepossibility. If I'm wrong, I will be the first to admit it, but I'm usually right.We will probably end up in Liberty orIndependenceBowl and that is an improvement from the past decade minus the last 2 years....Roughly same season as last year
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[BogeyGolfer.sixpack]

I was going to reply to Coach's post but that thread turned into a pissing match...<div>
</div><div>We will beat JSU, MTSU, Troy ( struggle but win), South Alabama, UK ( about the same as last year...14 points or less), Ole Miss ( 14 points or less).</div><div>Why do I have to keep posting that Auburn has more talent andtheirrecord against us the last few years? We lose to Auburn by 7 or more points, and we will lose to A&M and Ark. We can't beat anyone that has a pass happy offense with equal talent. In the past, we have been too slow to adjust, we seem to want to play off the line ofscrimmageto avoid the big pass but never adjust. The only game I see us having a chance to pull an upset is the Tenn game. If we canestablishthe run against their weak D Line, I think we may be able to beat them at home but it will be a close game as well. So, 7-5 is an outsidepossibility. If I'm wrong, I will be the first to admit it, but I'm usually right.We will probably end up in Liberty orIndependenceBowl and that is an improvement from the past decade minus the last 2 years....Roughly same season as last year
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[BogeyGolfer.sixpack]

I was going to reply to Coach's post but that thread turned into a pissing match...<div>
</div><div>We will beat JSU, MTSU, Troy ( struggle but win), South Alabama, UK ( about the same as last year...14 points or less), Ole Miss ( 14 points or less).</div><div>Why do I have to keep posting that Auburn has more talent andtheirrecord against us the last few years? We lose to Auburn by 7 or more points, and we will lose to A&M and Ark. We can't beat anyone that has a pass happy offense with equal talent. In the past, we have been too slow to adjust, we seem to want to play off the line ofscrimmageto avoid the big pass but never adjust. The only game I see us having a chance to pull an upset is the Tenn game. If we canestablishthe run against their weak D Line, I think we may be able to beat them at home but it will be a close game as well. So, 7-5 is an outsidepossibility. If I'm wrong, I will be the first to admit it, but I'm usually right.We will probably end up in Liberty orIndependenceBowl and that is an improvement from the past decade minus the last 2 years....Roughly same season as last year
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[Bulldog from Birth]

We sweep the non-conference games and beat UK, Ole Miss, and either Tennessee or Texas A&M. As much as our fanbase wants to believe it, we are long-shots to beat either Arkansas or Auburn. If we couldn't beat Auburn's freshmen and sophomores last year, we certainly aren't beating them this year. I don't think we go 0-4 at home in the SEC though. We'll win at least one.

BFB

 

[EAVdog]

The only team with a passing Offense that has whipped us in the past 2 years has been Arkansas. Go look at scoring defense. Sure we give up easy quick out passes because of our scheme but we lock down in the red zone.<div>
</div><div>Our almost sure losses are;</div><div>LSU and Bama</div><div>
</div><div>We'll should split 2/2 out of;</div><div>Tenn</div><div>ATM</div><div>Arkansas</div><div>Auburn</div><div>(all these are home games)</div><div>
</div><div>Our almost sure thing wins are;</div><div>UK</div><div>Ole Miss</div><div>OOC</div><div>
</div><div>I think 8-4 is our mean average, 10 wins is our absolute ceiling, and 6 wins is our absolute basement.</div>

 

[missouridawg]

good prom dates and hold out a little longer. This thread will occur in a few weeks. Be patient.

 

[RobbieRandolph]

And it will be troys Super Bowl. I compare it to UAB in 2010. Don't overlook this game.

 

[QuaoarsKing]

Our secondary is our biggest strength. We'll be fine against pass-happy offenses. That's why we'll probably beat Tennessee and have a shot against Arkansas...<div>
</div><div>Also, Troy went 3-9 last year in the worst FBS conference. They've hosted several AQ teams in their home stadium before, so it won't be anything special like LA Tech '08. Less than 10% chance that game is close.</div>

 

[EAVdog]

If we struggle against them then we'll have a losing season for sure, and lose the Egg Bowl. They are going to be that bad.

 

[hulkbuster]

Look how much he pumps up his fellow Alabamians! Troy? Struggle? Dude do you even look at stats? But first let's look at YOUR mighty Auburn. They start off w/ one of the most potent offenses in the NCAA. They have a NEW offensive co, a NEW defensive co & they lost Dyer & are going to run a pro style offense w/ spread personel? We start off against Jackson State. We will show NOTHING offensively in that game. Auburn on the other hand will have to throw the kitchen sink at Clemson to just COMPETE in that game. They will have NOTHING to gameplan for coming into Starkvegas. You will be absolutely WRONG! Just like your WRONG about "pass happy teams" do well against us? We were towards to top of the nation in 30+ yd plays Vs. our defense! The ONLY way we go 6-6 is if Tyler gets hurt or if we lose 2 starting OL!

 

[engie]

They lose a first-round qb, a big play wr, THE best kicker in college football, and a stud running back. They bring back a defense that is better than only OM in conference, with no DL talent nor depth. This will be painfully obvious for them by the time we play them.

I believe that in the long run, they will be very competitive. Their upside is every bit as good as LSU's. They are recruiting very well. It will take some time for them to get acclimated and build the necessary depth though.

Arkansas was bowl-eligible only once in their first 6 years in the SEC, and they are a far superior traditional program to A&M(as shown by Arkansas all-time 41-24-3 record against them, including 27 of the past 37).
South Carolina was only bowl eligible once in the first 8 years.

A&M
Passing D - 109
Scoring D - 70
Total D - 59
Rushing D - 12

 

[CadaverDawg]

I was going to reply to Coach's post but that thread turned into a pissing match...<div>
</div><div>We will beat JSU, MTSU, Troy ( struggle but win), South Alabama, UK ( about the same as last year...14 points or less), Ole Miss ( 14 points or less).</div><div>Why do I have to keep posting that Auburn has more talent andtheirrecord against us the last few years? We lose to Auburn by 7 or more points, and we will lose to A&M and Ark. We can't beat anyone that has a pass happy offense with equal talent. In the past, we have been too slow to adjust, we seem to want to play off the line ofscrimmageto avoid the big pass but never adjust. The only game I see us having a chance to pull an upset is the Tenn game. If we canestablishthe run against their weak D Line, I think we may be able to beat them at home but it will be a close game as well. So, 7-5 is an outsidepossibility. If I'm wrong, I will be the first to admit it, but I'm usually right.We will probably end up in Liberty orIndependenceBowl and that is an improvement from the past decade minus the last 2 years....Roughly same season as last year
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Just sayin. I think it's a pretty big stretch for you to say, "I'm usually right"

 

[Coach34]

We are better than A&M and Tenn and we are at home. We are equal to Auburn and we are at home.

The only teams to beat us at home the last 2 years were Top 10 teams. A&M, Auburn, and Tennessee will not be top 10 teams

 

[Hector.sixpack]

BogeyGolfer wrote:div><div>Why do I have to keep posting that Auburn has more talent and their record against us the last few years?
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Defensively we have been better than auburn. Last year I'd call the talent level equal. Whatever the margin is I don't think that what cost us last year. If we don't win this year, I will be pissed and surprised.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

...then MSU needs to begin looking for a new coach.


If MSU is going to spend $100 million on stadium renovations, then there is no room for a 6-6 coach.


Mullen was getting there in 2010, then regressed in 2011.


The regressions are over.


If a university is going to back a coach's play by gathering $100 million in his behalf, you either deliver or leave.


Simply put, if Mullen goes 6-6 this year, he has one foot in the gave & another on a banana peel.


That's not me talking. That's the $100 million talking.

 

[Spanky.sixpack]

Fact: Troy is a classic MSU trap game. We WILL be flat for this game. It will be a matter of out-talenting them. If we lose to Auburn, we will have to deal with a sense of dejection as well. I look for a 10-14 point win maximum. Any mistakes and we are in for a world of hurt.<div>
</div><div>You are a clueless homer if you believe MSU going to Kentucky and Ole Miss are two sure fire wins. I would love to think that things have changed under Mullen, and I personally think they have, but I will never pick MSU to go better than 6-6 until I've seen us do it a few years in a row.</div>

 

[CadaverDawg]

Iagreewithyouku

 

[shsdawg]

None of us has even played a freaking game yet.

 

[biguglyjoe]

<div class="mod-section-header">
<h1 class="h2">Troy Trojans Schedule - 2011</h1>

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Year:







<table class="tablehead" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="4">2011 Troy Trojans Schedule</td></tr><tr class="colhead"><td>DATE</td><td>OPPONENT</td><td>RESULT/TIME</td><td>RECORD/TICKETS</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-228"><td>Sat, Sept 3</td><td align="left"><ul class="game-schedule">[*]@[*]
[*]Clemson[/list]</td><td><ul class="game-schedule">[*]<span class="redfont">L</span>[*]43-19 [/list]</td><td>0-1 (0-0)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-8"><td>Sat, Sept 17</td><td align="left"><ul class="game-schedule">[*]@[*]
[*]#14 Arkansas[/list]</td><td><ul class="game-schedule">[*]<span class="redfont">L</span>[*]38-28 [/list]</td><td>0-2 (0-0)</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-2393"><td>Sat, Sept 24</td><td align="left"><ul class="game-schedule">[*]vs[*]
[*]Middle Tennessee[/list]</td><td><ul class="game-schedule">[*]<span class="greenfont">W</span>[*]38-35 [/list]</td><td>1-2 (1-0)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-5"><td>Sat, Oct 1</td><td align="left"><ul class="game-schedule">[*]vs[*]
[*]UAB[/list]</td><td><ul class="game-schedule">[*]<span class="greenfont">W</span>[*]24-23 [/list]</td><td>2-2 (1-0)</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-309"><td>Sat, Oct 8</td><td align="left"><ul class="game-schedule">[*]@[*]
[*]Louisiana-Lafayette[/list]</td><td><ul class="game-schedule">[*]<span class="redfont">L</span>[*]31-17 [/list]</td><td>2-3 (1-1)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-2433"><td>Sat, Oct 15</td><td align="left"><ul class="game-schedule">[*]vs[*]
[*]Louisiana-Monroe[/list]</td><td><ul class="game-schedule">[*]<span class="redfont">L</span>[*]38-10 [/list]</td><td>2-4 (1-2)</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-2229"><td>Tue, Oct 25</td><td align="left"><ul class="game-schedule">[*]@[*]
[*]Florida International[/list]</td><td><ul class="game-schedule">[*]<span class="redfont">L</span>[*]23-20 OT [/list]</td><td>2-5 (1-3)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-2426"><td>Sat, Nov 5</td><td align="left"><ul class="game-schedule">[*]@[*]
[*]Navy[/list]</td><td><ul class="game-schedule">[*]<span class="redfont">L</span>[*]42-14 [/list]</td><td>2-6 (1-3)</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-249"><td>Sat, Nov 12</td><td align="left"><ul class="game-schedule">[*]vs[*]
[*]North Texas[/list]</td><td><ul class="game-schedule">[*]<span class="redfont">L</span>[*]38-33 [/list]</td><td>2-7 (1-4)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-2226"><td>Sat, Nov 19</td><td align="left"><ul class="game-schedule">[*]vs[*]
[*]Florida Atlantic[/list]</td><td><ul class="game-schedule">[*]<span class="greenfont">W</span>[*]34-7 [/list]</td><td>3-7 (2-4)</td></tr><tr class="oddrow team-23-98"><td>Sat, Nov 26</td><td align="left"><ul class="game-schedule">[*]@[*]
[*]Western Kentucky[/list]</td><td><ul class="game-schedule">[*]<span class="redfont">L</span>[*]41-18 [/list]</td><td>3-8 (2-5)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow team-23-2032"><td>Sat, Dec 3</td><td align="left"><ul class="game-schedule">[*]@[*]
[*]Arkansas State[/list]</td><td><ul class="game-schedule">[*]<span class="redfont">L</span>[*]45-14 [/list]</td><td>3-9 (2-6)</td></tr></tbody></table>

 

[Spanky.sixpack]

Mullen, despite our traditionally-impatient-with-no-basis fans, is in fact building a heck of a program. We did NOT underachieve last year, we OVERachieved in 2010. Period. 5-9-6. Show me the pattern. Taking scheduling and luck factors out, we probably should have 6-7 wins each year he's been here. But, numbers are what they are. However, when looking to form predictions, a look back with a little 20/20 hindsight and common sense might be helpful for you.<div>
</div><div>Steve Spurrier followed the correct path at South Carolina. Establish yourself as a low level bowl team for 4-5 years, let recruiting improve, then start taking bigger steps. Building on concrete instead of clay. A concept many of our fans refuse to grasp.</div><div>
</div><div>I am continually amazed at the lack of independent thought and dependent nature of our fans' thought process on pundits like Athlon and Phil Steele.</div>

 

[CadaverDawg]

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[Spanky.sixpack]

which continues to be a faulty way to predict college football. Yet, that's all we have, with a little common sense mixed in.

 

[Spanky.sixpack]

Not to mention the ones who want(ed) Cohen fired prematurely. <div>
</div><div>We give the terrible coaches too much time and give the good coaches too much grief. The crap Mullen had to take the other day from the media is a great example.</div>

 

[MStateFan22]

They'll be tougher this year but I'll still give us the edge at home.

 

[CadaverDawg]

are the typical Genespage, "let's not put too much expectation on Mullen, at least we're making bowl games, just be happy with 6-6" fans. Mullen does not want people to put low expectations on him and his teams. You can act like we should only win 6 this year, but I guarandamntee you that Mullen will feel like he sucked this year if we only win 6.

 

[biguglyjoe]

Not to mention the ones who want(ed) Cohen fired prematurely. <div>
</div><div>We give the terrible coaches too much time and give the good coaches too much grief. The crap Mullen had to take the other day from the media is a great example.</div>

 

[PokerDawg44]

This will be the 1st time since Ellis Johnson that we've had the same DC in back to back seasons.(1st time under Mullen) Also last year we we were adjusting to Koenning calling plays instead of Hudspeth. Plus Wilson and Koenning both have a full season as being a coordinator in SEC under their belt. Mullen also has gained some experienced and will learn from his mistakes, he's only been a head coach on any level for 3 yrs and experience is the ultimate learning tool.....DM, CW, and LK will all be sharper this yr.

 

[TaleofTwoDogs]

big powerful MSU football program should skulldrag them across the field. Does 7- 9 to a 5 -6 Maine Black Bears team ring a bell? I believe we should win and win big at Troy but our history is full of "Should and should haves". My point is, each game is an adventure when MSU is involved and nothing is ever a given. Until Mullen can change this reality of never losing to teams we should beat, then there will always be doubts in the minds of the MSU fans.

 

[biguglyjoe]

Where exactly did I say we should skulldrag them? Mullen hasn't lost to teams we should beat since he's been here, but I agree that nothing is a given.

 

[RonnyAtmosphere]

...I realize it's obligatory to drop a Croom bomb in literally every thread that appears here, but who the 17 associated with MSU tossed a $100 million investment at Croom's perceived future success?

 

[PokerDawg44]

1. We finally have an elite talented QB that has been prepared right and is ready to compete at a high level. TR seems to really taken control of the offense and is now a true leader. MSU has lacked this for years. Having a true talented passer that is a true leader at the most important position could lead to an unprecedented season. You add a experienced and seasoned WR core plus a deep threat in Morrow, Russel will prob break all sorts of MSU passIng records.

2. Even though our offensive line has some questionable spots, our interior Olinemen are really solid(Jackson, Day, and Smith) and will allow us to run the ball more efficiently between the tackles. This should improve our running game even though we lost our best rb and it will take pressure off TR. Plus some younger guys got PT and experience and we signed 2 solid Juco Olinemen. We'll be much improved

3. Our defense is gonna be Salty. Last yr we didn't have that elite pass rusher coming off the edge like we did in 2010 with Parnell, Denico Autre will provide this. We lose Fletcher but add the ultra talented Quay Evans that is prob the most game ready true freshman in the country. The LB core is not a weakness anymore and we have depth. Cam is a beast, Skinner has come along nicely, Wells is a true talent, and we got some promising young guys. Our secondary has been compared as MSUs best ever. Banks is enough said. Defense wins championships and we got a very very good defense.

4. Schedule, even though we're @Lsu and @ bama, all our big games are at home. Davis Wade will be rocking.

Call me over optimistic but predicting we go 6-6 Is being way more pessimistic .

 

[AceLeroy]

We will have 6 wins headed into Oxford. We will win there to have at least a 7 win season. That means We will likely play in a bowl game vs. an inferiior team and finish 8-5. While that wouldn't be a great year , it would continue the building process and be a nice thing to recruit to.

 

[maroonmania]

Auburn has won the last 2 times in Starkville by a COMBINED 4 points (3-2 and 17-14). Last year we should have won in Auburn but winning against even pretty decent SEC teams on the road is difficult. It was obvious Chris Wilson and our defense had to adjust to not having Diaz around any more and that showed up in that first SEC game last year. That was by far the worst our defense played all year and remember Auburn will be adjusting to 2 new coordinators this year themselves. Also the calls we got on the road at Auburn last year were NOT kind with the worst being the 4th down gift first down to Auburn that ended up giving them a gift extra 7 points they should never have had. Auburn is talented but most of the SEC is talented and we have every opportunity to win the Auburn game if we don't give it away with penalties, turnovers or horrendous special teams play.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

I was going to reply to Coach's post but that thread turned into a pissing match...<div>
</div><div>We will beat JSU, MTSU, Troy ( struggle but win), South Alabama, UK ( about the same as last year...14 points or less), Ole Miss ( 14 points or less).</div><div>Why do I have to keep posting that Auburn has more talent andtheirrecord against us the last few years? We lose to Auburn by 7 or more points, and we will lose to A&M and Ark. We can't beat anyone that has a pass happy offense with equal talent. In the past, we have been too slow to adjust, we seem to want to play off the line ofscrimmageto avoid the big pass but never adjust. The only game I see us having a chance to pull an upset is the Tenn game. If we canestablishthe run against their weak D Line, I think we may be able to beat them at home but it will be a close game as well. So, 7-5 is an outsidepossibility. If I'm wrong, I will be the first to admit it, but I'm usually right.We will probably end up in Liberty orIndependenceBowl and that is an improvement from the past decade minus the last 2 years....Roughly same season as last year
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[hulkbuster]

1.) We have an ENTIRE returning coaching staff. From passing game coordinator to defensive (or in Geoff Collins' case) or co-defensive coordinator. In the Auburn game those big plays Vs. our defense were because the LBs were.not maintaining "gap" integrity based on the new scheme. Once they (the LBs) figured it out our entire defensive unit was better.

2.) Expect more excitement on offense. Our 3rd down efficiency may drop, but we WILL be more explosive on offense & can threaten defenses more. With Relf on 3rd & 7+ most defensive coordinators only had to drop in a "cover 2" package. You can't do that w/ Tyler. He can ACCURATELY throw the "out" route or any deep throw w/ time. Relf couldn't consistantly do that. Tyler also has 5 SENIOR wideouts to toss the ball to. If we're playing LSU or Bama & the play breaks down the WRs know where to be based on the coverages.

 

[BogeyGolfer.sixpack]

a large part of our offense was Sherrod. It was apparent last year that we missed him, and it will be even moreapparentthis year. Any time you predictsuccessbased on what unproven 2 and 3 star O-Lineman may or may not do, you have problems....6-6 or 7-5...take it to the bank. College football is very easy to predict, who ever is better up front will win 90% of the time.

 

[RobbieRandolph]

And were not throwing 100mm at Mullen. We're throwing it at the football program in general. God forbid we upgrade facilities regardless of your contentment level with our coach.