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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Buckaineer" data-source="post: 131551657" data-attributes="member: 1428007">Nothing disengeuous about facts.  Whether you like them or not is irrelevant.WVU was going to be destroyed more than likely by Oklahoma which would have been 6 losses, five wins in 11 games.  To pretend WVU would be favored or even have been in that game when Brown was absolutely destroyed by ISu the week before is laughable.The other game was FSU- which by their standards had a bad year, but they also beat a very good then undefeated North Carolina.More than disengenuous to pretend Brown would have been able to get a win in either of those games.  More than likely 5-7.And in a normal year, five wins would not get Brown into a bowl-  only reason WVU is playing this year is because they changed the rules to allow a five win team in, and WVU canceled the obliteration that OU was about to put on Brown so he had a slightly better than .500 record.Army won 9 games but are a G5 program so WVU should be favored being a P5 program.  But well see if they get the win to finish at .500.Again, where are all the mouths proclaiming 7,8,10 wins didnt cut it at WVU?  Now you are declaring 5 wins two seasons in a row to be ok and making up wins that didnt happen?  Really?As to Holgorsen there are hundreds of coaches that werent sought this year, and Brown and Lyons said he wasnt either, was just rumors.  But why werent Ryan Day, Nick Saban, or Dabo offered?  How about Fickell at Cincinnati?  Nice deflection but has nothing to do with WVU where Holgorsen did pretty well considering an early takeover, actually depleted team,  a change to a major conference half a country away and no support back home.  Still ranked as the second best coach at WVU behind only Don Nehlen whereas Brown is next to last.Another 5 win season and giving this guy a contract with four years left will look pretty stupid.But you can count the likely losses now:at MarylandVTTexasOUISUOk Stand probably at least one of kSU, T Tech, Baylor or TCU.</blockquote>

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