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BankerCat12

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I have asthma and it actually helped me as weird as it sounds. I havent smoked in years but should not be illegal.
 

WildcatfaninOhio

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No good reason at all for it to be illegal.

But finally, change is in the air. Thanks to all us Baby Boomers that grew up smoking it all throughout the 60s, 70s and 80s, and are now in charge. Still not sure why the changing views and changing of laws has come so slowly. Let's get on with it already!
 
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I have asthma and it actually helped me as weird as it sounds. I havent smoked in years but should not be illegal.

Study was conducted at UCLA to figure out the effects of Marijuana on your lungs. Many thought it would be similar to smoking a cigarette and it would cause your lungs to shrink. They actually found out it causes your lungs to stretch out and expand and increase air flow and max lung capacity. That's why it helped your asthma.
 
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I love how all the conservative people were like "it's going to cause lazy people in Colorado and increase violence and crime and blah blah blah.....wrong! Increase in employment, decreased crime, huge economic gain...

People have no idea how vast of an impact legalizing marijuana would have on this country. It'd change ge everything.
 

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Study was conducted at UCLA to figure out the effects of Marijuana on your lungs. Many thought it would be similar to smoking a cigarette and it would cause your lungs to shrink. They actually found out it causes your lungs to stretch out and expand and increase air flow and max lung capacity. That's why it helped your asthma.

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Lung Health and Marijuana Smoke
Smoking marijuana clearly damages the human lung. Research shows that smoking marijuana causes chronic bronchitis and marijuana smoke has been shown to injure the cell linings of the large airways, which could explain why smoking marijuana leads to symptoms such as chronic cough, phlegm production, wheeze and acute bronchitis.4,9

Smoking marijuana has also been linked to cases of air pockets in between both lungs and between the lungs and the chest wall, as well as large air bubbles in the lungs among young to middle-aged adults, mostly heavy smokers of marijuana. However, it's not possible to establish whether these occur more frequently among marijuana smokers than the general population.4

Smoking marijuana can harm more than just the lungs and respiratory system - it can also affect the immune system and the body's ability to fight disease, especially for those whose immune systems are already weakened from immunosuppressive drugs or diseases, such as HIV infection.4,9

Smoking marijuana hurts the lungs' first line of defense against infection by killing cells that help remove dust and germs as well as causing more mucus to be formed. In addition, it also suppresses the immune system. These effects could lead to an increased risk of lower respiratory tract infections among marijuana smokers, although there is no clear evidence of such actual infections being more common among marijuana smokers.4,9 However, frequent marijuana-only smokers have more healthcare visits for respiratory conditions compared to nonsmokers.10

Studies have shown that smoking marijuana may increase the risk of opportunistic infections among those who are HIV positive, although it does not seem to effect the development of AIDS or lower white cell counts.4,9

Another potential threat to those with weakened immune systems is Aspergillus, a mold that can cause lung disorders. It can grow on marijuana, which if then smoked exposes the lungs to this fungus.4 However, it rarely causes problems in people with healthy immune systems.
 
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American Lung Association


Lung Health and Marijuana Smoke
Smoking marijuana clearly damages the human lung. Research shows that smoking marijuana causes chronic bronchitis and marijuana smoke has been shown to injure the cell linings of the large airways, which could explain why smoking marijuana leads to symptoms such as chronic cough, phlegm production, wheeze and acute bronchitis.4,9

Smoking marijuana has also been linked to cases of air pockets in between both lungs and between the lungs and the chest wall, as well as large air bubbles in the lungs among young to middle-aged adults, mostly heavy smokers of marijuana. However, it's not possible to establish whether these occur more frequently among marijuana smokers than the general population.4

Smoking marijuana can harm more than just the lungs and respiratory system - it can also affect the immune system and the body's ability to fight disease, especially for those whose immune systems are already weakened from immunosuppressive drugs or diseases, such as HIV infection.4,9

Smoking marijuana hurts the lungs' first line of defense against infection by killing cells that help remove dust and germs as well as causing more mucus to be formed. In addition, it also suppresses the immune system. These effects could lead to an increased risk of lower respiratory tract infections among marijuana smokers, although there is no clear evidence of such actual infections being more common among marijuana smokers.4,9 However, frequent marijuana-only smokers have more healthcare visits for respiratory conditions compared to nonsmokers.10

Studies have shown that smoking marijuana may increase the risk of opportunistic infections among those who are HIV positive, although it does not seem to effect the development of AIDS or lower white cell counts.4,9

Another potential threat to those with weakened immune systems is Aspergillus, a mold that can cause lung disorders. It can grow on marijuana, which if then smoked exposes the lungs to this fungus.4 However, it rarely causes problems in people with healthy immune systems.


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Dr. Donald Tashkin, who has studied the relationship between marijuana smoking and lung function for more than 30 years as a professor of medicine at UCLA, says the study confirms what other research has also concluded.

“This is a well-done study involving more subjects than in the past,” says Tashkin, who is not affiliated with the new study. “The public should take away it’s a confirmatory study, but larger and longer than previous studies demonstrating, once again, that smoking marijuana does not impair lung function, unlike tobacco.”

Tashkin says scientists have a theory that lung capacity is not affected in marijuana smokers because the chemical THC in marijuana has immunosuppressant properties that interfere with the development of respiratory issues such as COPD. He says this indicates there will be lower rates of COPD, but marijuana smokers are still at risk for chronic bronchitis, which means they tend to have increased cough and mucus. The study didn't look at the risk of lung cancer.

And Tashkin cautions about drawing overall conclusions from the new work: “We’re only talking about one end point. We’re not looking at lung cancer, chronic bronchitis symptoms. We are not looking at other effects, behavioral effects. We are looking at lung function.”
 

jwheat

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Weed smoker here.

Have to be pretty dumb to think smoking weed helped asthma in any way.

No one is arguing that cigarettes are better for you than weed. You kind of started an argument with yourself
 

funKYcat75

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So does it help lung capacity or just not affect it? You've posted two different things.
 

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I love stoner theories on pot.

"Nah man, you see the thc, when it it crystallines, trips your synapsids in such a way, it's like rising up and placing a tap dancer on your grey matter."
 

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I love how all the conservative people were like "it's going to cause lazy people in Colorado and increase violence and crime and blah blah blah.....wrong! Increase in employment, decreased crime, huge economic gain...

People have no idea how vast of an impact legalizing marijuana would have on this country. It'd change ge everything.
People in Colorado already were/are lazy imo and weed has nothing to do with it.
 

UKGrad93

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Have never partaken in the plant, but it seems no worse than cigs or alcohol, both which are legal. Legalizing it could really help the state of KY since I assume it grows well there and could replace tobacco crops.
 
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JohnBlue

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Have never partaken in the plant, but it seems no worse than cigs or alcohol, both which are legal. Legalizing it could really help the state of KY since I assume it grows well there and could replace tobacco crops.

It's already the number one cash crop in Kentucky. Legalizing it would only make it less profitable for the business.
 

UKserialkiller

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Have never partaken in the plant, but it seems no worse than cigs or alcohol, both which are legal.

Hey, it's never too late to start. Matter of fact, when you go home today, 93. Tell your wife that you're gonna start smoking weed. If she gives you any ****, just give her the middle finger, buddy. That'll do it.
 

80 Proof

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It's already the number one cash crop in Kentucky. Legalizing it would only make it less profitable for the business.
It would get tax dollars for the government which is what private industry would currently consider bankrupt based on the unfunded pension liability. It would also take that profit out of criminals coffers and put it into those taxable businesses, or better yet if people were allowed to grow their own it would essentially kill organized crime in the state. Weed being illegal is barely stopping anyone from getting it, and those that can't find it are just ending up with something harder instead (like Meth).

Studies in Washington and Colorado indicate that there is been a major impact on the Mexican drug cartels by decriminalizing pot in their states. There are also indications of decreased hard drug use in those states.
 

jwheat

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It would get tax dollars for the government which is what private industry would currently consider bankrupt based on the unfunded pension liability. It would also take that profit out of criminals coffers and put it into those taxable businesses, or better yet if people were allowed to grow their own it would essentially kill organized crime in the state. Weed being illegal is barely stopping anyone from getting it, and those that can't find it are just ending up with something harder instead (like Meth).

Studies in Washington and Colorado indicate that there is been a major impact on the Mexican drug cartels by decriminalizing pot in their states. There are also indications of decreased hard drug use in those states.
Makes too much sense to legalize
 

TheEgyptianMagician

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Ultimately I have no problem with it legalized, but I've been to CO and Amsterdam and I'd hate to deal with the riff raff on a daily basis.

I just don't want to look at you; take a shower and go do something productive at least once or twice a week.
 

TheEgyptianMagician

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Nah I'm not, I know that most people that smoke are normal human beings.

The riffraff is real though... maybe they just congregate to those areas and you have riffraff tourism or everywhere else they stay at home or whatever, but I don't want to have to deal with the subculture on a daily basis where it's like 10% of the populace. It's worse than hipsters really.
 

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I smoked when I was young but not anymore , I don't have a problem with legalizing weed . Unless you grow poor weed , that should be jail time . Would like to try the marijuana food , I quit cigarettes years ago so I would not smoke weed either .
 
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MegaBlue05

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Former heavy toker and former heavy drinker (5-7 drunks a week). I know which one almost messed up my life and caused me to do and say some really awful things. And I know which one caused happiness, intense hunger and a love of video games. Care to guess which one is which?

Marijuana isn't legal in the U.S. because a) Money from the paper and alcohol lobbies b) Racism in the 30s. Honks thought it would be a good way to jail blacks and deport Mexicans, so they banned the drug of choice for blacks and browns. Pot was outlawed and propaganda films were made. Meanwhile, white ladies continued to do the legal drug of the time ... cocaine c) It makes too much sense, and if left up to Con-gress the right-wingers in office won't ever go for it because the evangelicals will lose their GD minds over it and their campaign coffers will take a hit (bad pun intended).

I say put it on the ballot nationally. Should recreational marijuana be legal for adults to consume in all 50 states? Yes or no.
 
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Look at SB13, introduced by council member Perry Clark to the state legislature, also called The Cannis Freedom Act of Kentucky.

It's basically calling for legalization of marijuana, medicinal and personal. Must be over 21 to buy, it's a pretty long read, but google it. It was introduced on 01/07, still hasn't been shot down almost 2 weeks later.

BTW, @MegaBlue, one of the biggest supporters of this bill are Matt Bevin, our Rep Gov, and Rand Paul, Rep Senator and presidential candidate.
 
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Nah I'm not, I know that most people that smoke are normal human beings.

The riffraff is real though... maybe they just congregate to those areas and you have riffraff tourism or everywhere else they stay at home or whatever, but I don't want to have to deal with the subculture on a daily basis where it's like 10% of the populace. It's worse than hipsters really.

Your takes are always garbage. Everything you have said is false, and quite frankly you using the word riff raff twice in one thread should get u arrested, banned at least.
 

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Look at SB13, introduced by council member Perry Clark to the state legislature, also called The Cannis Freedom Act of Kentucky.

It's basically calling for legalization of marijuana, medicinal and personal. Must be over 21 to buy, it's a pretty long read, but google it. It was introduced on 01/07, still hasn't been shot down almost 2 weeks later.

BTW, @MegaBlue, one of the biggest supporters of this bill are Matt Bevin, our Rep Gov, and Rand Paul, Rep Senator and presidential candidate.
Won't make it out of committee. Never does