Week 7 "Light Side" Ratings top 10

[NNFAN]

The top 10 teams in the state of Illinois entering week seven regardless of class. Note: Close losses to other highly regarded teams can actually improve a teams standing. Schedule strength, margin of victory, and reputation of the program (team history), and the conference affiliation is also considered. This is why a team like Aurora West (6-0) can be rated below a team with three losses. Here goes...



#1 Loyola (6-0) LW #3... dominate St. Rita 35-3, Rita had been averaging 41 ppg prior. Ramblers have surrendered just 24 points in previous three games. Week 9 showdown with BR awaits.

#2 Homewood-Flossmoor (6-0) LW #1... Vikings use Tyrice Richie at WR and RB, and he explodes with over 200 yards of total offense in the 48-0 rout of Sandburg. Just when you thought the HF offense couldn't get any more dangerous.

#3 Brother Rice (6-0) LW #2... emotional 49-42 win over MC one of the most exciting games to watch in recent memory. Resilient Crusaders offense averaging 45 ppg. Really impressed with the level of play from both teams.

#4 East St. Louis (6-0) LW #5... the Flyers end Edwardsville's 30 game conference winning streak, scoring two defensive TDs in their 20-10 close shave with the Tigers. Eddy jumped out to a 10-0 first qr. lead, but couldn't hang on. Both defenses dominated. ESL will be the favorite in 7a.

#5 Neuqua Valley (6-0) LW #4... Wildcats knock off previously unbeaten Naperville North 35-20, putting the Huskies away with a strong 4th qr. Only team standing in the way of Neuqua's first DVC title is Glenbard North in week 9.

#6 Lincoln-Way East (5-1) LW #6... the Griffins pound Andrew 49-7. Bradley Kentucky Bourbon -aye (6-0) will host LWE week 8.

#7 Prairie Ridge (6-0) LW #7... state's top class 6a team dismantles McHenry 62-6. The Wolves are closing in on a #1 seed, outscoring opponents 45-11.

#8 Edwardsville (5-1) LW unranked... the Tigers defense was outstanding against explosive ESL, forcing 2 first qr, turnovers (giving them an early 10-0 lead). The offense never got untracked, yet they trailed just 14-10 late in the 4th qr. Watch out for Edwardsville in 7a.

#9 Cary Grove (5-1) LW #8... the Fox Valley sure has two great teams, and the Trojans hold serve with PR by ripping Dundee-Crown 50-13. Looks like they will finish at 8-1 and a high seed in 6a.

#10 Mt. Carmel (3-3) LW #9... if you don't think MC is one of the top 10 teams in Illinois, just watch the replay (Brother Rice TV) of their close 49-42 loss at BR. QB (Thomas) is virtually unstoppable and a difference maker going forward.

 

[Cross Bones]

Gutsy with the #10 pick... I understand it though

 

[USD24]

I did watch mc and I don't believe they are top 10. They lost to a Rita team that was destroyed by LA. One close loss ok. But if u lose half your games, you are not a top 10 team. Close doesn't count in football.

 

[ramblinman_rivals165935]

The top 10 teams in the state of Illinois entering week seven regardless of class. Note: Close losses to other highly regarded teams can actually improve a teams standing. Schedule strength, margin of victory, and reputation of the program (team history), and the conference affiliation is also considered. This is why a team like Aurora West (6-0) can be rated below a team with three losses. Here goes...



#1 Loyola (6-0) LW #3... dominate St. Rita 35-3, Rita had been averaging 41 ppg prior. Ramblers have surrendered just 24 points in previous three games. Week 9 showdown with BR awaits.

#2 Homewood-Flossmoor (6-0) LW #1... Vikings use Tyrice Richie at WR and RB, and he explodes with over 200 yards of total offense in the 48-0 rout of Sandburg. Just when you thought the HF offense couldn't get any more dangerous.

#3 Brother Rice (6-0) LW #2... emotional 49-42 win over MC one of the most exciting games to watch in recent memory. Resilient Crusaders offense averaging 45 ppg. Really impressed with the level of play from both teams.

#4 East St. Louis (6-0) LW #5... the Flyers end Edwardsville's 30 game conference winning streak, scoring two defensive TDs in their 20-10 close shave with the Tigers. Eddy jumped out to a 10-0 first qr. lead, but couldn't hang on. Both defenses dominated. ESL will be the favorite in 7a.

#5 Neuqua Valley (6-0) LW #4... Wildcats knock off previously unbeaten Naperville North 35-20, putting the Huskies away with a strong 4th qr. Only team standing in the way of Neuqua's first DVC title is Glenbard North in week 9.

#6 Lincoln-Way East (5-1) LW #6... the Griffins pound Andrew 49-7. Bradley Kentucky Bourbon -aye (6-0) will host LWE week 8.

#7 Prairie Ridge (6-0) LW #7... state's top class 6a team dismantles McHenry 62-6. The Wolves are closing in on a #1 seed, outscoring opponents 45-11.

#8 Edwardsville (5-1) LW unranked... the Tigers defense was outstanding against explosive ESL, forcing 2 first qr, turnovers (giving them an early 10-0 lead). The offense never got untracked, yet they trailed just 14-10 late in the 4th qr. Watch out for Edwardsville in 7a.

#9 Cary Grove (5-1) LW #8... the Fox Valley sure has two great teams, and the Trojans hold serve with PR by ripping Dundee-Crown 50-13. Looks like they will finish at 8-1 and a high seed in 6a.

#10 Mt. Carmel (3-3) LW #9... if you don't think MC is one of the top 10 teams in Illinois, just watch the replay (Brother Rice TV) of their close 49-42 loss at BR. QB (Thomas) is virtually unstoppable and a difference maker going forward.

TWO Fox Valley teams? No Barrington? No Palatine?

No way.

 

[NNFAN]

I did watch mc and I don't believe they are top 10. They lost to a Rita team that was destroyed by LA. One close loss ok. But if u lose half your games, you are not a top 10 team. Close doesn't count in football.

I'm looking at the MC team currently with Thomas at QB. They only lost to #1 Loyola by 7, without him at QB- and had #3 Brother Rice on the ropes late in the 4th qr. That shows that they are close. I see them finishing at 6-3. I'm also showing respect to the CCL Blue, understanding good teams can lose a few games and still be contenders for a deep playoff run. For example... let's look at the ESCC last year. I have great respect for the depth of that conference. Several good teams taking turns beating up on each other. Chicago Marist went 5-4 (4-3 ESCC) yet played for the class 8a title. Nazareth lost two conference games, and went on to win a state title. Nazareth lost to a team (Woodstock Marian) that was destroyed by Joliet Catholic (twice) and Niles Notre Dame.

 

[NNFAN]

TWO Fox Valley teams? No Barrington? No Palatine?

No way.

Who has Barrington beaten to put them in the top 10? Maine South the only quality win. Who has Palatine beaten to place them in the top 10? Stevie the only quality win. Let's see who has the deeper playoff run. BTW ... Edgy has Prairie Ridge (#8) ranked ahead of Barrington (#12) too. Let's see who wins the Barrington/Palatine game and go from there.

 

[Bowie50]

Yikes

 

[ramblinman_rivals165935]

Who has Barrington beaten to put them in the top 10? Maine South the only quality win. Who has Palatine beaten to place them in the top 10? Stevie the only quality win. Let's see who has the deeper playoff run. BTW ... Edgy has Prairie Ridge (#8) ranked ahead of Barrington (#12) too. Let's see who wins the Barrington/Palatine game and go from there.

And who have PR and CG beaten to put THEM in the top 10? McHenry? Huntley? If you think those teams are on par with or better than the likes of MS, Stevenson, Fremd and New Trier, then Light Side is a well named thread topic.

 

[kpjasion]

Who has Barrington beaten to put them in the top 10? Maine South the only quality win. Who has Palatine beaten to place them in the top 10? Stevie the only quality win. Let's see who has the deeper playoff run. BTW ... Edgy has Prairie Ridge (#8) ranked ahead of Barrington (#12) too. Let's see who wins the Barrington/Palatine game and go from there.

In Palatine's defense...they handed Stevenson(5-1) and Hoffman Estates(5-1) their only losses so far, and gave a good New Trier(4-2) team a pretty good beat down(it was 34-7 when the scrubs went in and NT scored twice on the second string in the 4th). Two of the other wins were against winless teams, but that's just the luck of the draw with the schedule.

Then you come to wins like this past Friday..Smallest margin of victory this season(though it easily could have been 35-14..but it wasn't...), but easily the most satisfying. Some things are more meaningful than "light side" or "dark side", or really any ranking. Intense rivalries like this, to me, are the essence of high school football and what makes it great...

 

[Voodoo Tatum 21]

Like the LSR rankings except I would remove these 3 teams:
*. CG (got beat bad by PR early in the season) *.MC (three losses)
*. Edwardsville (SoS only team they've played so far is ESL

And replace them with:
* Palatine (beat Stevie) + undefeated
* Lions Township (beat GW) + undefeated
* Hindsdale Central (beat GW) + undefeated.

Thoughts?

 

[CGsupporter]

Voodoo, PR beat CG 26-14 the first game of the year...not sure that equates to "got beat bad." CG shut down Samson's running game so he beat them by the pass. CG beat PR last year in the first game and both went onto the semis in their respective classes where they both lost to strong teams, so not sure how much you can take from first game results. Regardless, PR is the class of the FV this year and fans from both schools are hoping they meet again in the 6A playoffs.

Like the LSR rankings except I would remove these 3 teams:
*. CG (got beat bad by PR early in the season) *.MC (three losses)
*. Edwardsville (SoS only team they've played so far is ESL

And replace them with:
* Palatine (beat Stevie) + undefeated
* Lions Township (beat GW) + undefeated
* Hindsdale Central (beat GW) + undefeated.

Thoughts?

 

[Voodoo Tatum 21]

Voodoo, PR beat CG 26-14 the first game of the year...not sure that equates to "got beat bad." CG shut down Samson's running game so he beat them by the pass. CG beat PR last year in the first game and both went onto the semis in their respective classes where they both lost to strong teams, so not sure how much you can take from first game results. Regardless, PR is the class of the FV this year and fans from both schools are hoping they meet again in the 6A playoffs.

Ok. I stand corrected. PR wins by two scores/double digits at the beginning of the season.

I'm not saying CG isn't a very very good team - but with their CURRENT SEASON SoS, signature wins, and 5-1 record do you think they are top 10 in the state? I think Palatine, HC, And LT, all have a stronger case for a top 10 in the state ranking.

 

[ramblinman_rivals165935]

Let's see who has the deeper playoff run. .

Forgot to comment on this one earlier.

Let's see who has a deeper playoff run? You mean PR's 6A playoff run vs. the 8A playoff runs of Palatine and Barrington? You think the two classifications are interchangeable?

 

[NNFAN]

My response to all the naysayers... note the list and see where these teams sit 6+ weeks from now.

 

[ramblinman_rivals165935]

My response to all the naysayers... note the list and see where these teams sit 6+ weeks from now.

IF PR sits at the top of 6A, that will not mean they are better than teams that go deep, but not all the way, in 8A. Please tell me that you understand that.

 

[CGsupporter]

No, I do not think that CG is top 10 in the state. PR...maybe. Yes, Palatine and HC certainly should be above CG. Still suspect of LT.

Ok. I stand corrected. PR wins by two scores/double digits at the beginning of the season.

I'm not saying CG isn't a very very good team - but with their CURRENT SEASON SoS, signature wins, and 5-1 record do you think they are top 10 in the state? I think Palatine, HC, And LT, all have a stronger case for a top 10 in the state ranking.

 

[Voodoo Tatum 21]

No, I do not think that CG is top 10 in the state. PR...maybe. Yes, Palatine and HC certainly should be above CG. Still suspect of LT.

Luckily - a lot of this will clear itself up over the next 3 -4 weeks!!

 

[feeto]

I agree with MC at #10. If you don't, ask yourself if you want your team playing MC in game 1 of the playoffs.

 

[greatgig13]

IF PR sits at the top of 6A, that will not mean they are better than teams that go deep, but not all the way, in 8A. Please tell me that you understand that.

So we're to understand that no 6A team has the right to be in the top 10?

 

[NNFAN]

Forgot to comment on this one earlier.

Let's see who has a deeper playoff run? You mean PR's 6A playoff run vs. the 8A playoff runs of Palatine and Barrington? You think the two classifications are interchangeable?

So it isn't possible that Cary Grove or PR could be better than Palatine and Barrington because they are in a lower classification? I remember Cary Grove playing Providence in the 7a state championship (31-28), CG gave them a better game than Mt. Carmel (twice) and St. Rita did. Why don't you go argue with Edgy... he knows more about PR than both of us combined.

 

[ramblinman_rivals165935]

So we're to understand that no 6A team has the right to be in the top 10?

I never said that.

 

[ramblinman_rivals165935]

So it isn't possible that Cary Grove or PR could be better than Palatine and Barrington because they are in a lower classification?

Of course it is possible. Never said that it was impossible. In response to a thread that you began, I did assert that the two best teams in the Fox Valley are not better than the two best teams in the Mid Suburban. And what I DID take issue with was your implied statement that if PR goes farther in 6A than some of the other 8A teams that were mentioned go in 8A, that your support of them in the top 10 will be vindicated. Again, do YOU think 8A and 6A are interchangeable?

I remember Cary Grove playing Providence in the 7a state championship (31-28), CG gave them a better game than Mt. Carmel (twice) and St. Rita did.

I remember that too. And your point is?

Why don't you go argue with Edgy...

Because I choose to argue with you. You started the thread. Do you not want contrary opinions, or would you prefer that everyone just agree with your brilliance?

 

[greatgig13]

It is funny that CG was getting high praise in pre-season and because they got beat bad by 12 ( two scores/double digits) in week 1 by PR, they've fallen off the radar. All they can do is roll over the rest of the Fox Valley, as they have, and see where the chips fall.

 

[ramblinman_rivals165935]

Downside of playing in the Fox Valley I guess.

My point exactly.

 

[NNFAN]

Of course it is possible. Never said that it wasn't. RIght now, I did say that the two best teams from the Fox Valley are not better than the two best teams in the Mid Suburban. And what I DID take issue with was your implied statement that if PR goes farther in 6A than some of the other 8A teams that were mentioned go in 8A, that your support of them in the top 10 will be vindicated. Again, do YOU think 8A and 6A are interchangeable?



I remember that too. And your point is?



Because I choose to argue with you. If you can't stand the heat...

Of course it is possible. Never said that it was impossible. In response to a thread that you began, I did assert that the two best teams in the Fox Valley are not better than the two best teams in the Mid Suburban. And what I DID take issue with was your implied statement that if PR goes farther in 6A than some of the other 8A teams that were mentioned go in 8A, that your support of them in the top 10 will be vindicated. Again, do YOU think 8A and 6A are interchangeable?



I remember that too. And your point is?



Because I choose to argue with you. You started the thread. Do you not want contrary opinions, or would you prefer that everyone just agree with your brilliance?

Looking forward to watching Palatine and Barrington in the weeks ahead, time will tell if they are worthy of top 10 status. I hope my Huskies get the chance to play one of them, now that we are 1-32. Thank you for calling me brilliant , and I do love the input by all. I remember our first "argument" ramblinman about 15 years ago. You really are a pitbull. Both of our teams have had some big wins since then. I will leave you with this...

 

[flyerforlife]

Esl defense only scored 1 touchdown

 

[DeanOfSelection]

In Palatine's defense...they handed Stevenson(5-1) and Hoffman Estates(5-1) their only losses so far, and gave a good New Trier(4-2) team a pretty good beat down(it was 34-7 when the scrubs went in and NT scored twice on the second string in the 4th). Two of the other wins were against winless teams, but that's just the luck of the draw with the schedule.

Then you come to wins like this past Friday..Smallest margin of victory this season(though it easily could have been 35-14..but it wasn't...), but easily the most satisfying. Some things are more meaningful than "light side" or "dark side", or really any ranking. Intense rivalries like this, to me, are the essence of high school football and what makes it great...

Keep in mind Palatine lost badly to Fremd last year to. The 7 point win a rivalty game is fine.

 

[ramblinman_rivals165935]

I will leave you with this...

I vaguely recall that game. What was that, 24 years ago? Since then, my memory has been filled with so many more pleasant experiences. Don't know about you, but I prefer the pleasant recent experiences. When one doesn't have many recent pleasant experiences, I understand why one might want to focus on the distant past.

 

[eireog]

I agree with MC at #10. If you don't, ask yourself if you want your team playing MC in game 1 of the playoffs.

In the "If the playoffs started today thread", Lincoln Pk. (1seed) vs. Mt.Carmel (32seed). Thinking if this plays out this way after week nine you'll have your Friday upset.

 

[mchsalumni]

When one doesn't have many recent pleasant experiences, I understand why one might want to focus on the distant past.

Zing.

 

[mchsalumni]

I agree with MC at #10. If you don't, ask yourself if you want your team playing MC in game 1 of the playoffs.

This could be said about 8-10 teams. Doesn't make them top 10 worthy.

 

[USD24]

I agree with MC at #10. If you don't, ask yourself if you want your team playing MC in game 1 of the playoffs.

I agree with that, but that doesn't make them a top 10 team. There are many teams that people don't want to play in game one of the playoffs.
HF
GW
HC
LT
OPRF
Palatine
BR
LA
Barrington
CG
LWE
Marist
Stevenson
Oswego
Bradley
Brook
Montini
Fenwick
SHG
ESL
MS
Edwardsville........
You get the idea. I am not saying that MC is not a good team or a dangerous team come playoff time. But based on their performance this year, I do not believe they are currently a top 10 team.

 

[DeanOfSelection]

For Me, if MC was 4-2 with the LA/BR 7 point losses, I might have them in. With that Rita loss, I just can't. If MC wins their last 3 and looks good with Thomas at QB full time, get Verdis Brown back, maybe avenge the Rita loss, beat a 7-2 GBN, lose to East St Louis in final 42-35 - I am more then happy to have them in.

 

[NNFAN]

I vaguely recall that game. What was that, 24 years ago? Since then, my memory has been filled with so many more pleasant experiences. Don't know about you, but I prefer the pleasant recent experiences. When one doesn't have many recent pleasant experiences, I understand why one might want to focus on the distant past.

Linked that game because it was Loyola. We have had plenty of success since then (2010 wasn't that long ago). No doubt the past 5-6 years have been rough.

 

[NNFAN]

I agree with that, but that doesn't make them a top 10 team. There are many teams that people don't want to play in game one of the playoffs.
HF
GW
HC
LT
OPRF
Palatine
BR
LA
Barrington
CG
LWE
Marist
Stevenson
Oswego
Bradley
Brook
Montini
Fenwick
SHG
ESL
MS
Edwardsville........
You get the idea. I am not saying that MC is not a good team or a dangerous team come playoff time. But based on their performance this year, I do not believe they are currently a top 10 team.

I think MC would beat most of those teams.

 

[USD24]

I think MC would beat most of those teams.

Maybe....but the point I was making is that there are a lot of teams that people don't want to face in game 1. Doesn't mean they are top 10 material. Furthermore, MC had the chance to beat three of them and they didn't. Again, I think MC is a very good team and they may end up being a top 10 team at the end of the year. But at this point, they have not finished when they had to and therefore are 3-3 and not worthy of a top 10 ranking.