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Soucie: Week 7 Playoff Projections
Soucie: Week 7 Playoff Projections
Week 7 Playoff Projections: Discussion/Q thread
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I don't know that I have ever liked our path in any projection. Change it.
In 7a, Andrew High School listed as the 26 seed. That would mean you have 6a Thornwood (1-5) beating them this week. Not sure about the reasoning here....
I like the 4A projection...McNamara goes south, setting up a very possible IC @ Coal City semi in the north and a Mac-Rochester in the south...if the Rockets are good enough to get there...
And with Mac in 4A, what I have seen in the past in 3A north bodes well for the funky?cranky?unpredictable? I-8...possible Lisle - Wilmo rematch in the quarters with Byron on the other side of the north...
Let me take that 3A comment back...Rock Island Alleman, as a 16, coming out of the Western Big Six with a bunch of 5A to 7A opponents, could be the ugly record monster in the North...
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If the projections hold, the 6A Southern Bracket match up between Peoria and Crete-Monee is the most interesting to me. The Northern Bracket in 6A can be found in the dictionary under "meat grinder".
Willowbrook looks pretty locked in. I count 12 lower enrollment qualifiers before WBrook(1912), That includes Batavia(1899), Rolling Meadows(1899), Hersey(1864), Hoffman(1907) and Delkalb(1840), Plus another handful of lower seeds Not including ESL and Nazareth who are opted up,
Interesting...for some reason I thought WB had many less enrolled. I think I saw someone post somewhere on here that they only had something like 1400.
Can’t imagine how ugly the 8A Quad-of-Death would be for so many good teams beating each other up before LWE finishes them off, while Brother Rice catches a good tan and has a colonic while waiting for the semis.
Hey @Cross Bones let’s hope we get some upsets or changes to Soucie’s projection. I am not pleased
Hey @Cross Bones let’s hope we get some upsets or changes to Soucie’s projection. I am not pleased
If I am reading this right, it looks like you have OPRF losing 2 of final 3. Is that right? I don't see any losses in their last 3, let alone 2 (Lyons, Glenbard W, York)
Yowsa! Coming into Duchon hot next week!!
So....Evanston is ranked higher than New Trier? Who they lost to? New Trier vs Maine South looks as likely CSL South championship, which could murk up the projections still?
But how in the heck does BR, get the top seed when we are all contemplating LEE vs the field as darn near a losing possibility?lol
But how in the heck does BR, get the top seed when we are all contemplating LEE vs the field as darn near a losing possibility?lol
1) Record
2) Playoff points (opponents wins)
I don’t believe head to head is taken into account nor are opinions expressed on this board.
I project all of the remaining games. So, I'd project the same teams I have currently listed. This changes when I project incorrectly, which happens more than I like it to.
Bishop McNamara is currently the smallest school in 4A. So it is pretty much a straight toss-up.
On top of that, Mac is the northern most of the 16 teams in the South bracket, so if a southern team enters, and a northern team leaves they go back into the northside if they stay in 4A.
I'm feeling slightly better, but you hurt my feelings by not believing in West against HC. (SF)
By record:
9-0: 43, 8-1: 43, 7-2: 51, 6-3: 75, 5-4: 44
I think this was an error that was never corrected. I noticed it early on when the AP voting had them in 6, I've had them in 7 all along, but the error never got corrected.
You can tell me how wrong I was on Saturday!! Hey I hedged my bets - I said my pick was based on old data and a flawed premise!!
Once kitty does the “Kitty Cup” next year - then I will get very serious with my picks!! I’d love to take home 3 championships next season!
Dukane Clown Cup - tied for the lead in 2018!
ESCC - Fan Cup - I crapped the bed last week and have fallen off the pace a bit for 2018 - but still time to come back!
The 4A South is a good example of the "real world" limits of the IHSA's seeding criteria. NO WAY should Rochester be seeded anywhere but #1. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who thinks that the likes of Paris, Breese Mater Dei, Pontiac, Taylorville, etc., can pose a threat to the Rockets does not know Illinois high school football. Even if Bishop Mac were to remain in 4A (and in the South), I don't believe they would be near the hurdle that Althoff was in 2015 (a game Althoff won) or in 2016 (a game Althoff blew). Remember, Rochester plays in a good 5A/6A conference against athletes which are, generally, speed-wise and athletecisim-wise superior to those in the 4A/5A conferences in which the other 4A South teams play.
A very good case to illustrate this is Taylorville. Before they left the CS8 for the Apollo Conference, they were having no where near the success that Rochester has had since the first year they left the Corn Belt and joined the CS8. Rochester year in, year out is competing against and beating the best the CS8 has to offer. Taylorville is playing in the Apollo. Y'all figure it out.
To sum it all up: I'll take an 8-1, 7-2 or even a 6-3 Rochester team over a 9-0 Paris or Breese Mater Dei team.
A very good case to illustrate this is Taylorville. Before they left the CS8 for the Apollo Conference, they were having no where near the success that Rochester has had since the first year they left the Corn Belt and joined the CS8. Rochester year in, year out is competing against and beating the best the CS8 has to offer. Taylorville is playing in the Apollo. Y'all figure it out.
To sum it all up: I'll take an 8-1, 7-2 or even a 6-3 Rochester team over a 9-0 Paris or Breese Mater Dei team.
Strength of schedule...nearly impossible to properly measure, but we all know it exists for teams who play a schedule of bigger schools (usually). Rochester only plays one 4A opponent. Even more glaring could be 5-4 in the north: Aurora Christian in 1A and Rock Island Alleman in 3A...McNamara in 3A is the likely favorite, top 4 in 4A - but could have some traditional matchups if they go north...
But there is no other way to seed schools than the way the IHSA is doing it. It is impossible to rate 10 team round robin conferences; similar issues abound to rate CPS schools. We will have, as a result, some 16 seeds make it to the championship game...
You're right, and I was not really arguing with the way they do it, just pointing out that it doesn't always reflect the actual lay-of-the-land, if you will.
I guess I'm one person who would have a problem always agreeing with Bill Parcells that "you are what your record says you are".
2 of the 3 will finish 7-2, and one will more than likely finish 8-1. All 3 have a real chance to make noise in 8A, just hope they aren't all bunched up in the same bracket.
As for my opinion, we all have them, nor do we expect them to be taken into account. But that's what makes this board fun, hearing them!lmao.
Rochester has not looked good when I've seen them play. Gone is the four-year starter ... gotta coach up a new kid now.
Souc, first time caller, long time listener. You have 6 undefeated teams in 7a? Naz - Willowbrook?
I'll hang up and listen.
I'll hang up and listen.