Weekend rotation set

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Unless somebody has taken a massive step forward, that feels like a safe floor but limited ceiling kind of rotation i.e. I feel like we may have 3 solid Sunday starters but two of them gotta throw on Friday and Saturday.
 

o_HuntDawg

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looks like a step down from what we had last season.

Wonder if any of them will pitch deep into the game... or if the Tuesday game at USM we are saving an arm for?
 

17itdawg

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It's definitely not cumulatively some of the high end arm talent on the roster, but Ligon was a weekend guy at Miami. He struggled with injuries there and at State last year. Stone and Pico are solid high floor/low ceiling guys. If I had to guess, I'd say Ligon, if healthy and the control has improved, will stay in the rotation all year while one of Simmons or Kohn get moved to the bullpen or midweek starter. Just my two cents. This roster has some serious arm talent(on paper - feel like we've been saying this for a while now) that has never pitched an inning of college ball.
 

aTotal360

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I'm never bullish on anything MSU related, but I think some of yall are selling Coach Parker short. I'm not saying our pitching lineup is going to look like 2025 Dodgers, but I think we could be presently surprised if everyone stays healthy.
 

o_HuntDawg

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Did you make a similar post last year after seeing Stephen and his 5+ ERA from Purdue would be a weekend starter? Or Cijntje and his 8+ era?
nah... not really, didnt know what to expect from them. These guys are more known commodities than those two... but i think its fair to say what another poster said. They look like Saturday or Sunday guys.. not Friday nighters.

We will see.
 
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o_HuntDawg

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1) Holy hell, opening weekend is this weekend???

2) I hope that these guys make me look like a complete idiot, but the fact that we've got Friday/Sunday guys that have pitched a combined 40 innings in the last 2+ years does not give me the warm and fuzzies
wouldnt surpise me if this is Lemonis giving the ol Johnny Long/Luke Hancock hat tip to these guys and running them out to give them first shot at it. Against a college that hasnt had a winning season in nearly 15 years like Manhattan... we should 10 run regardless of whose pitching.
 
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She Mate Me

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I'm fine with this group. Pico's last game was impressive against a really good hitting VA team.

I suspect Lemonis and Parker are letting the experienced guys take the first weekend at the Dude. Obviously it'd be nice if a younger stud worked his way into the weekend rotation down the line.

Apparently Ligon is consistently in the mid to upper 90's. Control will be the issue, but we have a competent pitching coach now so improvement from all three won't be a shock.

My biggest concern is can they stay healthy. Pico and Stone have had major arm struggles. Fingers crossed, but asscheeks clinched.
 

Bulldog45

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I haven’t kept up with much during the offseason, but what’s the word on how Nolan Stevens will be used?
 

o_HuntDawg

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I haven’t kept up with much during the offseason, but what’s the word on how Nolan Stevens will be used?
Listening to the lemonis interview-- seems like Sullivan is locked into the DH role. And that the INF seems set minus second base... and the OF is going to be a mixture of 5-6 guys to match up of offensive guys and defensive guys based on whose pitching and matchups.

He also said that he's starting the older guys this weekend, but there was a handful of options that could have started or may end up starting...
 
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OG Goat Holder

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Ron Polk 2. Not bad enough and too much history to fire. Visible recruiting drops ensure we won't be a contender.
 
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bigbub50

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I think Pruitt is likly being saved for usm on Tuesday. So u have those 4 experienced pitchers to show what they got and earn a weekend spot. Ligon has the most talent but has looked like wild thing Ricky Vaughn (before he got his eyes tested) in our scrimmages. Hope he gets his talent under control. Could be a Holcombe 2.0 situation.

Having said that. Keep an eye on grant (when his workload is built up), Charlie foster, and chase burns. 3 very talented arms. And that could be our rotation next year. Burns and Grant both have Friday night talent.
 
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johnson86-1

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Ron Polk 2. Not bad enough and too much history to fire. Visible recruiting drops ensure we won't be a contender.
We'll know more after this year, but that seems unduly pessimistic. Polk II went 93-113 in the SEC, with losing conference records in 5 out of 7 seasons. Lemonis is sitting at 75-75 at this point, with winning conference records in 3 out of 5 seasons.

I think it's very likely we're going to find out those first few years were an anomaly for him and not repeat a stretch like that, but I do think we're going to see a lot of years like last year, where we're a little above .500 in the SEC and on the hosting bubble. Hoping it's going to be on the other side of the hosting bubble more often than not, but we'll see.
 

CochiseCowbell

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It's a scary rotation. All three have had serious arm issues.
Sarcastic Season 9 GIF by The Office
 
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JonJuanQuixote

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I am assuming you mean that Polk is significantly better than Lemonis.

But in truth, I was more comparing Lemonis to Polk's second tenure. Settling into mediocrity.
My bad, I see what you were getting at. Covid year aside, I believe this year puts Lemo at same length of Polk's second tenure as well. Lemo's tenure is certainly marred by the 22 and 23 seasons, but hopefully at the end of this season we'll be talking about how he turned it around.
 

bolddogge

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I'm never bullish on anything MSU related, but I think some of yall are selling Coach Parker short. I'm not saying our pitching lineup is going to look like 2025 Dodgers, but I think we could be presently surprised if everyone stays healthy.
This is the correct take. Parker made a huge difference last year. It'll be even more evident this year. I'm also thinking most are selling Pico short. He could be special if he stays healthy and grounded.
 

olblue

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It's definitely not cumulatively some of the high end arm talent on the roster, but Ligon was a weekend guy at Miami. He struggled with injuries there and at State last year. Stone and Pico are solid high floor/low ceiling guys. If I had to guess, I'd say Ligon, if healthy and the control has improved, will stay in the rotation all year while one of Simmons or Kohn get moved to the bullpen or midweek starter. Just my two cents. This roster has some serious arm talent(on paper - feel like we've been saying this for a while now) that has never pitched an inning of college ball.
While there is always uncertainty around a pitching staff, one thing is certain. Neither Simmons or Kohn will be making any mid-week starts unless they need some rehab work.
 

WilCoDawg

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Somehow Stone’s number slipped by me. I expect him to make it what opponents say.