Welcome President-Elect Joe Biden!
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We are still not truly energy independent, but we are obviously much less dependent on foreign oil and gas than at any point since the 1950s.
Our evolution towards energy independence under Obama occurred in spite of him, not because of him. The one positive thing I’ll give him credit for was signing off on a measure to allow for the export of American crude oil, and even that was only done as part as a grand compromise late in his Presidency.
So who supports violence? I just want to get this strait. Do I support violence if it can be shown anyone who voted for the same candidate as me has been violent at any time in the past year? I think by this standard everyone supports violence, but you're not willing to point at your sides violence you only want to point out your opponents sides violence. The name for that is hypocrisy. You are being a hypocrite.
Whoever posted that video should seek out the full version where the man who is punched assaults four or five women beforehand. Or just post the selective edited version so you can act like victims some more. You’ve been getting lied to. And you eat it up. Find better sources for your info before the world leaves you behind.
Just stop looking it at as sides and it gets clearer.
There are people who support American values of freedom and free enterprise, and there are people who support something else, be it money and war, ideology, or violence or whatever.
It doesn't really matter the specifics of these instances, they are all unacceptable. Before the media brainwashed you into being anti-American, you would've understood this.
But it's ok now that the media has convinced you Orange man is bad, he's a racist bigot so it excuses your bigotry and hate. Well, it doesn't. It's not ok just cause other side does it too, or they are worse. It's not and they're not.
There are people who support American values of freedom and free enterprise, and there are people who support something else, be it money and war, ideology, or violence or whatever.
It doesn't really matter the specifics of these instances, they are all unacceptable. Before the media brainwashed you into being anti-American, you would've understood this.
But it's ok now that the media has convinced you Orange man is bad, he's a racist bigot so it excuses your bigotry and hate. Well, it doesn't. It's not ok just cause other side does it too, or they are worse. It's not and they're not.
Just to be clear, while this video certainly provides additional context, how do we know what happened before this clip? Frankly I’m surprised we haven’t had more people killed in these confrontations.
It's unacceptable for people to be harassed like that for simply exercising their first amendment rights.
It's not just American values, it's civilised and without justification are any and all excuses to the contrary. This is something we all understood until the media and their corporate overlords successfully demonized and dehumanized half the country to you.
They taught you evil as good, and called it justice. Many useful idiots are accepting of it, because maybe it will land you recruits to provide you entertainment or call those of us who are still sane as fooling ourselves for not expecting you to vote in the continuation of this, but it doesn't make it ok.
It's not ok. You've lost the plot.
It's not just American values, it's civilised and without justification are any and all excuses to the contrary. This is something we all understood until the media and their corporate overlords successfully demonized and dehumanized half the country to you.
They taught you evil as good, and called it justice. Many useful idiots are accepting of it, because maybe it will land you recruits to provide you entertainment or call those of us who are still sane as fooling ourselves for not expecting you to vote in the continuation of this, but it doesn't make it ok.
It's not ok. You've lost the plot.
What are you talking about? This is just incoherent babbling. Your stringing together a bunch of nonsense phrases that far right wing people use. The way you're stringing them together makes me think you don't even understand what they mean.
What do you think free enterprise means? You say that free enterprise is essentially American and then say the pursuit of money is un-American.
You said ideology is un-American. Your ideas about what is and is not American is an ideology. The ideas you think you are against are also an ideology. In fact any philosophy about how humans should be governed is an ideology. So which ideology is un-American? Be specific.
I have no idea how to respond to media brainwashing except to say you are the one who is parroting what a media source has told you. You are the one who doesn't have any facts. In fact you haven't presented a single fact to support any of your mostly incoherent arguments in this entire thread. You're just using words you hear on podcasts and read on sites like OAN and The National Review. I want you to understand when you say media brainwashing you are consuming media sources that barely report facts and you are coming here and blindly repeating what you hear. It's obvious reading you don't even understand what you're trying to say. So who is brainwashed here? The free independent thinker with facts and arguments or the parrot who barely understands what he is being told?
I'm typing coherently.
Free enterprise is capitalism, self determination without government interference.
American ideals and ideology are codified in the declaration of independence and constitution. They are not determined by me.
You are brainwashed, and project that reality onto others for comfort. I get my so-called news from corporate media propaganda sites like CNN and NYtimes. They are the ones who gave you the views you think are your own.
You cannot teach someone something they already think they know. You are programmed and have to deprogram yourself.
Free enterprise is capitalism, self determination without government interference.
American ideals and ideology are codified in the declaration of independence and constitution. They are not determined by me.
You are brainwashed, and project that reality onto others for comfort. I get my so-called news from corporate media propaganda sites like CNN and NYtimes. They are the ones who gave you the views you think are your own.
You cannot teach someone something they already think they know. You are programmed and have to deprogram yourself.
The lies the media have fed to you are endless.
The best lies have a morsel of truth.
Nope. but that dude specifically went after women in that video and avoided men. He deserved what he got.
and the best nonsense seems like it might have substance and yet here we are with you posting more cryptic statements with no basis in fact. A broken clock is right twice a day. Doesn’t mean it’s really a clock does it.
Yet you started a BS thread by misspelling a simple word. Self-awareness is clearly not your strength.
Nice to see a real 2 term US President on 60 mins tonight. Refreshing.
I wonder if trump will offer to stop letting people die in exchange for immunity for all of his crimes. That could be what he is planning.
Pretty easy to do, I couldn't show him and his family less respect.
But you haven't seen anything yet, wait until he gives his son a Presidential pardon and appoints him Secretary of the Treasury.
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Not too educated? It’s pretty well established educated people overwhelmingly supported Biden and your type supported trump.