Welcome President-Elect Joe Biden!

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That the point fell on deaf ears does not mean the point did not make a sound.
 

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The great minds in here proving their superior brilliance with what? Trump- Hitler comparisons. Although the country is involved in less foreign conflict currently than at any time in recent memory.

Oh and your candidate gave the eulogy for Robert Byrd.
 
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The best propaganda is the one that fully imbibes the individual unaware.

There are no great minds here, but completely mindless pawns in another man's war.
 
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I hadn’t been to this board in years until the other day. Im pleasantly surprised that, like society as a whole, the board is moving left. Would love for our fanbase to shed its backwoods reputation.
 
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All I will say about Donald Trump is it's right in our face how poor of a human being he is regardless of politics. Has Joe Biden made mistakes in his political career? Absolutely. We all make mistakes all the time. Has he learned from his mistakes? As far as I can tell he has. Do I agree with Joe Biden on everything? No absolutely not. If charecter is important to you than make it important with your vote. My problem here is that most Trump supporters will say at one time Trump's cahrecter doesn't matter only his policies do, then at the next time denigrate Joe Biden's charecter with false claims and lies to try to say he is just as bad as Trump. You cannot have your cake and eat it to. Either charecter is important or it is not and regarding the 2020 version of these 2 politicians I think it is quite clear who has grown personally and professionally their whole life, who has learned form their mistakes, and who is a better person right this instant. There is no debate on charecter among these 2 candidates. Any vote for Trump falls in either 2 camps. You voted for him despite his charecter or you admire his charecter. The Republicans that voted for Trump despite his charecter IMO are fine and I can understand that. The Trump voters who admire his charecter are the voters who trouble me. I hope that future candidates from the right are wise enough to know that engaging that base and playing to it's whims are not good for the nation as whole even though they may get you the votes you need to win.
 

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All I will say about Donald Trump is it's right in our face how poor of a human being he is regardless of politics. Has Joe Biden made mistakes in his political career? Absolutely. We all make mistakes all the time. Has he learned from his mistakes? As far as I can tell he has. Do I agree with Joe Biden on everything? No absolutely not. If charecter is important to you than make it important with your vote. My problem here is that most Trump supporters will say at one time Trump's cahrecter doesn't matter only his policies do, then at the next time denigrate Joe Biden's charecter with false claims and lies to try to say he is just as bad as Trump. You cannot have your cake and eat it to. Either charecter is important or it is not and regarding the 2020 version of these 2 politicians I think it is quite clear who has grown personally and professionally their whole life, who has learned form their mistakes, and who is a better person right this instant. There is no debate on charecter among these 2 candidates. Any vote for Trump falls in either 2 camps. You voted for him despite his charecter or you admire his charecter. The Republicans that voted for Trump despite his charecter IMO are fine and I can understand that. The Trump voters who admire his charecter are the voters who trouble me. I hope that future candidates from the right are wise enough to know that engaging that base and playing to it's whims are not good for the nation as whole even though they may get you the votes you need to win.

Yeah Trump screwed up. He had this in the bag with a little bit more sensitivity/empathy. I don't know Biden or Trump personally so cannot judge their character.

I would say both have some good and bad traits.

But have you ever heard of a wolf in sheep's clothing?

Trump is who he is, for better or worse. I truly don't think he hides it, even at his own demise. Biden on the other hand...not so much.

All this said I hope Biden is a successful President because we need it. Balance and peace/safety would be ideal.
 
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Yeah Trump screwed up. He had this is the bag with a little bit more sensitivity/sympathy. I don't know Biden or Trump personally so cannot judge their character.

I would say both have some good and bad traits.

But have you ever heard of a wolf in sheep's clothing?

Trump is who he is, for better or worse. I truly don't think he hides it, even at his own demise. Biden on the other hand...not so much.

All this said I hope Biden is a successful President because we need it. Balance and peace/safety would be ideal.

Trump doesn’t have anyone to blame but himself IMO. Economy was doing great, his policies in general I thought were fine and not especially controversial (by political standards anyway) but he just couldn’t stop saying stupid **** and tweeting. I have no idea why the hell he kept tweeting all the time or why his advisors let him keep doing that stupid ****. All it did was keep fanning the flames of people that didn’t like him and was used as ammo for people on the fence. Nobody voted for Biden, they just voted against Trump
 

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Trump never was qualified to be president of the United States and never will.

Who needs qualifications when you lead a cult?

http://cultresearch.org/help/characteristics-associated-with-cults/

  • Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
  • The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel.
  • The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s), and its members.
  • The group has a polarized, us-versus-them mentality.
  • The leader is not accountable to any authorities.
 

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The reality of any election that involves a sitting President is that it is always a referendum on that Person. In terms of this election, the most people in the history of this country showed up and voted against Donald Trump. So anyone who is trying to convince themselves that the President, his policies and his approach to Government weren't bad is fooling themselves. On the flip side of that, if Biden tries to run a country focused around social justice issues, defund the police, white privilige, etc. then the Democrats are going to see an even bigger number of people show up to vote against them.

We need a President, and more importantly a Congress, that will finally address issues like affordable healthcare, rebuilding our infrastructure, expanding well paying jobs, strengthening programs like Social Security that are about to be overwhelmed, and dealing with the issues surrounding the Pandemic. Solve the problems that effect all Americans as opposed to pandering to big money interests and feeding into these issues that are dangerously dividing this country.
 
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Trump doesn’t have anyone to blame but himself IMO. Economy was doing great, his policies in general I thought were fine and not especially controversial (by political standards anyway) but he just couldn’t stop saying stupid **** and tweeting. I have no idea why the hell he kept tweeting all the time or why his advisors let him keep doing that stupid ****. All it did was keep fanning the flames of people that didn’t like him and was used as ammo for people on the fence. Nobody voted for Biden, they just voted against Trump
Why did they keep letting him? Easy answer, he surrounds himself with yea men/women. He’s done that his entire life. Seems the only time anyone ever tries to talk him out of something is if it is or would very likely be a catastrophically bad decision.
 
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Trump never was qualified to be president of the United States and never will.
First President in the last 8 not to start a major foreign intervention.

Are you a warmonger?

Trump has done a great job, cleaned up NATO, started no wars, and record economic prosperity.

There's gonna be so much buyer's remorse if Biden does manage to succeed with the steal once people start seeing their nutjob policies cause energy prices to explode, troops into Yemen or Syria or both.
 
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There's gonna be so much buyer's remorse if Biden does manage to succeed with the steal once people start seeing their nutjob policies cause energy prices to explode, troops into Yemen or Syria or both.
No there won't. They don't care about policies or what's actually good or bad for America. If they did, they wouldn't hate Trump.

They believe whatever their democrat leaders and media tell them. Whisper sweet lies in their ear and inflame their anger with f**king idiotic political correctness and identity politics and they will walk off a cliff while screaming TDS ********. Stupid fools.
 

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First President in the last 8 not to start a major foreign intervention.

Are you a warmonger?

Trump has done a great job, cleaned up NATO, started no wars, and record economic prosperity.

There's gonna be so much buyer's remorse if Biden does manage to succeed with the steal once people start seeing their nutjob policies cause energy prices to explode, troops into Yemen or Syria or both.
 

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I don't know what a warmonger is. I served in the military during the Vietnam war, what about you. As for Nato, Trump has done a lot damage to it and Putin is happy as hell.
You're completely wrong.

Trump made Putin and Russia much POORER with our energy independence.

Trump made delinquent countries pay more of their share toward NATO. It's pathetic what these euros waste money on then underfund their modest NATO commitments.

So someone who went to Vietnam voted for the candidate/military industrial complex stooge most likely to start another war.

WTF is wrong with you? Do dead soldiers and worldwide conflict get you off? Maybe you're neocon scum? IDK.
 
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You can't just vote against something without voting for something else.

The allegedly 78 million votes will have voted in an illiberal corrupt regime with consequences far greater than your four years of hurt feelings.

But you'll find some way to blame it all on something else then, a new media driven lie to live by.
 

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That's just another lie, another distortion they live by... making NATO pay their fair share and not free load off the backs of our economy is not making them weaker, but stronger in the end.

They can afford their own military.
 

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Trump doesn’t have anyone to blame but himself IMO. Economy was doing great, his policies in general I thought were fine and not especially controversial (by political standards anyway) but he just couldn’t stop saying stupid **** and tweeting. I have no idea why the hell he kept tweeting all the time or why his advisors let him keep doing that stupid ****. All it did was keep fanning the flames of people that didn’t like him and was used as ammo for people on the fence. Nobody voted for Biden, they just voted against Trump
His tweets are his presidency. They are who he is. Everything else he did any Republican would have done most of it given the House and the Senate. He wasn't anything special except for his tweets. The people that are all in on Trump, they like the tweet guy. That is their hero. That's what you're missing here and that's the problem. The guy that sent all those tweets can't be President and the people that feel the same way and worship that ideology can't be allowed to run our country.
 

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You're completely wrong.

Trump made Putin and Russia much POORER with our energy independence.

Trump made delinquent countries pay more of their share toward NATO. It's pathetic what these euros waste money on then underfund their modest NATO commitments.

So someone who went to Vietnam voted for the candidate/military industrial complex stooge most likely to start another war.

WTF is wrong with you? Do dead soldiers and worldwide conflict get you off? Maybe you're neocon scum? IDK.
Truml didn't make us energy independent. That had already happened before he took office. You don't get to make up facts. The invention of fracking set a permanent cap on the price of a barrel of oil and opened up enough reserves in the US to carry us through the end of oil. That wasn't invented during Trump's presidency. It was already being used extremely widespread in the US way before his Presidency. He had nothing to do with that.

Link below shows the graph of when net imports of crude oil went below 0. It was 2015 which was the 2nd to last year of Obama. Another Trump lie, but he is good at taking credit for others success.

 
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You can't just vote against something without voting for something else.

The allegedly 78 million votes will have voted in an illiberal corrupt regime with consequences far greater than your four years of hurt feelings.

But you'll find some way to blame it all on something else then, a new media driven lie to live by.
What lies will you tell if we are successful? Just above another poster tried to claim energy independence for Trump even though that basically happened under Obama.
 

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I don't live by lies, whatever lies another poster makes are not mine nor is my worldview sustained by those lies like yours is by the media lies.

You have lost your moral and intellectual superiority that you think you have, because you never really had it in the first place.

This is what you voted for, knowingly.



 

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You're completely wrong.

Trump made Putin and Russia much POORER with our energy independence.

Trump made delinquent countries pay more of their share toward NATO. It's pathetic what these euros waste money on then underfund their modest NATO commitments.

So someone who went to Vietnam voted for the candidate/military industrial complex stooge most likely to start another war.

WTF is wrong with you? Do dead soldiers and worldwide conflict get you off? Maybe you're neocon scum? IDK.
 

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First of all, I never said I served in Vietnam, so you don't know what you are talking about. For your information, I served in a Nato country. This is my last reply to you.
 

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By the way, your man Trump was a draft dodger in the sixties who got five deferments. Because he had a wealthy father, he was able to get out of serving. Today, he tries to suck up to the military probably because he feels some guilt.