disgruntledprima donnas that aren't happy with playing time but can put up 20+ on a random night are going to just bolt toEurope. They can playbasketball, make money and still have the same goal to make the NBA one day. Brandon Jennings is the Kevin Garnette of this generation.
Welcome to the next big problem for college basketball.....
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besides college is not a bad thing, it's a good thing. Also, Brandon Jennings should be the example that young players look to. He's very smart with his money, gives back to the community, and is saying all the right things. I guess players going to the minors is what's wrong with college baseball too...
of the types that would forgo college and go play in Europe. It depletes college basketball of good players. And I doubt education is of the concern for most football or basketball players. I'm all for anyone trying to make some money but it does hurt college if this becomes more of an option.
is it a problem for you personally? No. That wasn't what I was saying. College Basketball wasn't the same after Garnette proved you could make the jump out of high school and now it will change again being how players can bolt to Europe to make money and still hoop. And is players going to the minors a problem for college baseball? Well don't you think it would be more exciting if say Jason Heyward had played a college baseball somewhere? Is he obligated to? No. Did he need to? Obviously not. But thatdoesn'tchange the fact that it waters down college baseball.<div>
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I suppose it could be a problem...but it will now just be the same as how college baseball and college hockey already are.
Some players choose the college route, and some players choose the pay to play route. Some from both groups will succeed and some from both groups will fail.
I would love to see HS players go to the DLeague for a year. They get paid, their housing and meals are taken care of, they get to practice a TON, they train with people whose job it is to develop them(as opposed to hyper competitive Euro coaches who have to win right away or else get canned) into complete players, NBA scouts and front offices are able to easily track their progress, and they play a full season which gets em ready for the NBA.
Sure its only $20K instead of what they could get in Europe, but $20K plus housing and meals while getting all the practice, training, and game experience you can handle is a sweet option when compared to sitting on the bench for much of the season due to a Euro coach that doesnt have time to let you play thru mistakes(Jennings for example).
Obviously that didnt hurt Jennings in the draft, but for the elite recruits that arent quite his level of elite, sitting that much would kill their progress.
A viable and respectable minor league system for the NBA would be great to see. Like minor league baseball, having teams that are stable and not constantly jumping from the CBA to the ABA to the WBL to the DLeague and then back to the CBA would be a great start. Looks like the NBA is starting to get it right, now all they have to do is make the league worth the player's time.
Some players choose the college route, and some players choose the pay to play route. Some from both groups will succeed and some from both groups will fail.
I would love to see HS players go to the DLeague for a year. They get paid, their housing and meals are taken care of, they get to practice a TON, they train with people whose job it is to develop them(as opposed to hyper competitive Euro coaches who have to win right away or else get canned) into complete players, NBA scouts and front offices are able to easily track their progress, and they play a full season which gets em ready for the NBA.
Sure its only $20K instead of what they could get in Europe, but $20K plus housing and meals while getting all the practice, training, and game experience you can handle is a sweet option when compared to sitting on the bench for much of the season due to a Euro coach that doesnt have time to let you play thru mistakes(Jennings for example).
Obviously that didnt hurt Jennings in the draft, but for the elite recruits that arent quite his level of elite, sitting that much would kill their progress.
A viable and respectable minor league system for the NBA would be great to see. Like minor league baseball, having teams that are stable and not constantly jumping from the CBA to the ABA to the WBL to the DLeague and then back to the CBA would be a great start. Looks like the NBA is starting to get it right, now all they have to do is make the league worth the player's time.
is exactly why I think college baseball is the bastard child of the sports world. It gets less coverage than Women's basketball. I think that is because the average sports fan thinks that is watered-down baseball since all the best HS players go immediately to the minors. You can include me in that group of sports fans but I don't even like baseball to begin with.
because it's primarly a southern and western sport. And the reason for that is weather. You can basically play baseball all year around here. The schools in the NE just don't get into it. That's slowly changing but I think that's the major reason.
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The weather doesn't affect the popularity of football. I know they only play in the fall but they practice all year round.
I agreed at first with the regional part of your reply but then I thought of how the two biggest and most rabid fan bases in the MLB are the Yanks and Red Sox. I know they are pros but you cannot say that it doesn't denote the popularity of the sport in that region. If pro baseball is that popular around there then shirley it translates down into the kids.
BTW, using the word "shirley" has become my default setting when I am typing... I do it now without even realizing I am trying to be humorous.
I agreed at first with the regional part of your reply but then I thought of how the two biggest and most rabid fan bases in the MLB are the Yanks and Red Sox. I know they are pros but you cannot say that it doesn't denote the popularity of the sport in that region. If pro baseball is that popular around there then shirley it translates down into the kids.
BTW, using the word "shirley" has become my default setting when I am typing... I do it now without even realizing I am trying to be humorous.
basketballs popularity isn't affected by weather either. I know what your immediately thinking, "You 17ing dubmass, basketball is played in a gym." Of course it is for organized competition but I think the sport's popularity with the youth is based on playing it on outdoor goals. Not many basketball players of any level grow up with their own personal indoor basketball goal.
that ain't happening in the Northeast. I have yet to see a spring training take place in the NE. Also, pro baseball doesn't rely on primarily local talent to be successful.
You can play football in the snow or rain. You can't in baseball. If you don't think weather plays a major factor, you are wrong.
You can play football in the snow or rain. You can't in baseball. If you don't think weather plays a major factor, you are wrong.
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This is a great point, and to add to it, the cost of a basketball that can be shared is a TON less than a glove for each plus bats and uniforms.
Its often times cited as the reason why urban areas across the country transitioned from baseball to basketball as the primary sport...access. Access to the space needed and access to less expensive equipment.
You can play baseball in the snow or rain. As I stated ealier, I am not a big baseball fan but I see games on TV all the time when its raining, sometimes pouring.
In regards to the talent thing, I agree but doesn't it stand to reason that an extremely popular sport in an area will played by the youth in the area? I think so, and then that would translate into HS athletics.
I have no idea who's favor this will go for, but will someone with proficient google skills look up how many kids from the northeast go into the draft every year?
In regards to the talent thing, I agree but doesn't it stand to reason that an extremely popular sport in an area will played by the youth in the area? I think so, and then that would translate into HS athletics.
I have no idea who's favor this will go for, but will someone with proficient google skills look up how many kids from the northeast go into the draft every year?
I remember as a kid playing baseball with a tennis ball and my fist and forearm as a bat. The bases ranged from a tree root to a particular crack in concrete. Obviously this was no formal game but the passion was there. We sure as hell weren't trying to play basketball with a soccer ball and a garbage can.
I think I am getting away from the original point so let me try to tie this in. I think baseball is still popular, but the minor leagues have killed or at least severely mangled the popularity of college baseball. I think a similar situation would happen for college basketball if the best HS players start going overseas instead of college. I think it severely diminishes the appeal of the game when you are watching a bunch of players who "weren't good enough to go pro." This is all my opinion by the way so don't get too worked up.
I think I am getting away from the original point so let me try to tie this in. I think baseball is still popular, but the minor leagues have killed or at least severely mangled the popularity of college baseball. I think a similar situation would happen for college basketball if the best HS players start going overseas instead of college. I think it severely diminishes the appeal of the game when you are watching a bunch of players who "weren't good enough to go pro." This is all my opinion by the way so don't get too worked up.