Well, the DoE has spoken. Player payments & Title IX

[Seinfeld]

Dept. of Education says Title IX applies to payments to athletes

The direct payment plans that many major college athletic departments are making for athletes would violate Title IX law, according to a Department of Education memo.

www.espn.com

However, the Office for Civil Rights -- the division of the Department of Education that enforces Title IX law -- said in its memo Thursday that those future payments should be considered "athletic financial assistance" and therefore must be shared proportionally between men and women athletes

This will be interesting

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

 

[wdawg44]

So now title IX is back and men can't play women's sports. It has been a tough few years to wrap your head around.

 

[Seinfeld]

I have to admit… the department’s ability to label these multi-million dollar payments as “financial assistance” with a straight face is pretty hilarious

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

I think this memo might as well be written in disappearing ink...

 

[DoomSlayer]

Department of Education will have entirely new leadership when Trump is sworn in and gets his people in, they may have a completely different view on this.

 

[ronpolk]

What a cluster 17 all of this is.

 

[randystewart]

Department of Education will have entirely new leadership when Trump is sworn in and gets his people in, they may have a completely different view on this.

This. Trump administration will reverse this ruling in short order

 

[The Cooterpoot]

She's not hurting for NIL

 

[ababyatemydingo]

This is gonna be great to watch

 

[ronpolk]

She's not hurting for NIL
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If you’re a good looking girl that is willing to show some skin on instagram, this NIL world is perfect for you. And they are actually earning it they way NIL should be earned, via advertising.

 

[57stratdawg]

In house rev share = title ix

Outside NIL not subject, IMO.

 

[Perd Hapley]

Just kill it all, with fire, at this point.

 

[aTotal360]

In house rev share = title ix

Outside NIL not subject, IMO.

That's what I see. Some form of "equal pay" from the schools being augmented by collectives when applicable.

 

[onewoof]

So now title IX is back and men can't play women's sports. It has been a tough few years to wrap your head around.

What is a man

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

If you’re a good looking girl that is willing to show some skin on instagram, this NIL world is perfect for you. And they are actually earning it they way NIL should be earned, via advertising.

 

[GloryDawg]

I guess we will see even more Dodges on campus.

 

[GloryDawg]

It's all coming to a head and Congress will have to step it like it or not.

 

[beachbumdawg]

It’s just setting up the narrative that Trump is antiwoman

 

[L4Dawg]

Department of Education will have entirely new leadership when Trump is sworn in and gets his people in, they may have a completely different view on this.

Hopefully they don’t. This may kill this crap. That would be a really good thing.

 

[ckDOG]

Here for the shite show

 

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

I guess we will see even more Dodges on campus.

And Subarus

 

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

What is a man

I’m not a biologist. I can’t answer that question.

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

The SEC/Big 10 would certainly break away.

If you’re a good looking girl that is willing to show some skin on instagram, this NIL world is perfect for you. And they are actually earning it they way NIL should be earned, via advertising.

Don't even have to be good looking, don't forget the ugly horse looking basketball player...

 

[CochiseCowbell]

My eligibility for all sports remains untouched.

I'm looking at you, Natty Light, for my billiard* NIL deal.

*Should I not qualify for that, I offer darts, bowling, cornhole, & historical trivia.

"The Window of inebriated success" is trademarked by Cochise, LLC. We're willing to negotiate on the ad campaign to promote your product.

 

[patdog]

If any of you guys has a daughter who’s pretty good at sports, you might want to invest some money into trying to get her a scholarship. If this holds, women will be making a lot more money in college than they could as professionals.

 

[Called3rdstrikedawg]

The SEC/Big 10 would certainly break away.

Don't even have to be good looking, don't forget the ugly horse looking basketball player...

AOC played basketball?

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Didn't football players get stipends? More than other sports? Did girls get that too?

What idiot came up with rev share again?

For you anti-government regulation clowns.......THIS is what happens when you don't have an unbiased regulating body that is not motivated by money.

 

[Shmuley]

Do chargers come in pink?

 

[johnson86-1]

It's all coming to a head and Congress will have to step it like it or not.

They really need to. Right now the tea leaves from government agencies are: you can’t restrict payments to players without violating antitrust, also though, you have to make sure those payments you can’t restrict are proportionally balanced between men and women. So basically every dollar a booster is willing to give to a male athlete creates a proportional obligation to pay a female athlete. Crazy football boosters could legitimately bankrupt a university according to the Department of Educations memo.

 

[johnson86-1]

Didn't football players get stipends? More than other sports? Did girls get that too?

What idiot came up with rev share again?

For you anti-government regulation clowns.......THIS is what happens when you don't have an unbiased regulating body that is not motivated by money.

This is a clown take. The problem is caused by conflicting government mandates, not too little regulation. As is often the case, a government rule/involvement creates a problem, which then attracts more government action, which creates new problems for the govt to try to address.

It certainly wouldn’t be perfect if there was no regulation, but I think it’d likely be less 17ed than this. As ridiculous as some things were when the ncaa operated under the impression that their eligibility rules did not implicate antitrust, the system did actually work and didn’t threaten to bankrupt schools.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

I hope this ends up getting schools out of the rev share business, and also abolishing collectives.

Title 9 can't restrict free market NIL, though, no matter if they try.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Do chargers come in pink?

If you thought girls travel sports were competitive before........just wait

Soccer moms gonna be stabbing each other in parking lots

 

[Walkthedawg]

And some folks were waiting on the government to “fix this lunacy”.

 

[Dawgzilla2]

Didn't football players get stipends? More than other sports? Did girls get that too?

What idiot came up with rev share again?

For you anti-government regulation clowns.......THIS is what happens when you don't have an unbiased regulating body that is not motivated by money.

Schools are currently allowed to give all athletes "cost of attendance" stipends that are in addition to all the other financial aid. It is based on figures provided to the federal government for all of the other financial aid reporting. This is separate from NIL and the like, and the same amount is given to every athlete on scholarship.

State's stipend is relatively high, because it is expensive to get to Starkville with no major airport close by.

I don't know what to make of this DOE ruling. It's good they ruled, so the participants know how Title IX will affect revenue sharing, but it might sink the settlement plan. I don't think this is what any of the parties wanted.

I suppose Trump's nrw Education Secretary could interpret Title IX differently, but that is just begging for a lawsuit.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

This is a clown take. The problem is caused by conflicting government mandates, not too little regulation. As is often the case, a government rule/involvement creates a problem, which then attracts more government action, which creates new problems for the govt to try to address.

It certainly wouldn’t be perfect if there was no regulation, but I think it’d likely be less 17ed than this. As ridiculous as some things were when the ncaa operated under the impression that their eligibility rules did not implicate antitrust, the system did actually work and didn’t threaten to bankrupt schools.

I'll give in a little here. By mean putting in the smartasss first phrase of my sentence, it made it look like I was talking about needing regulation or not (which all reasonable people know we do). I meant that we need a strong, trusted and unbiased regulating body. That's certainly not the NCAA.
And you're right, if they had rolled back some of their rules earlier, we may not be here now. Namely, NIL. If they had slowly implemented that back around 1980 when it all starting, it's likely a non-issue and there are no law suits. Or maybe not even then.....more than anything it was when the video games started coming out, because that was true NIL, rather than booster pay-for-play.

 

[mcdawg22]

See you guys later, taking my daughter to the golf course….

 

[L4Dawg]

As I've told y'all all along getting rid of big time college athletics is the goal of some of the people behind this stuff. What better way than by bankrupting athletic departments?