Well this sounds good
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tirelessly i imagine like he usually does but to say that this, if it happens, and Lrob dont have any luck or a bit of a gift is ********. I mean the guy is committed to someone else thousands of miles away, and said schools admin WONT LET HIM IN because of an eye on the school etc and Lrob falls in the lap due to a player killing another player and them getting IMMEDIATE elgibility and both players just happen to have Mississippi ties. Yeah, he luck and a gift DOES have a bit to do with it, but ill take it.
He was in the student union with Kirby and Sidney had about 10 family members with him. That was reported here and on multiple other sites.
but if some of you cant see that this is another situation of Stansbury being very lucky, so be it. I'm not saying we didnt work hard recruiting him. But the guy wanted to sign with another school- not us- and that school wont let him. How is that not lucky for us?
if this actually comes to fruition because Stans will have punched his MSU bball coach ticket for at least the next 6-7 years with the 2011 local talent he will be bringing in. I just hate it for you.</p>
i remember seeing him at our basketball game in jackson when rhodes was a freshman. if i knew about him at that time, then you know our coaches knew about him. we recruited monta at that age, too.
i think this signing would be big, not only for this next year, but for the recruiting class that could be put together in another 2 years. maybe this will make ross, o'bryant, and the others see that we are a serious player in college basketball, and our depth chart will be right for them to step in immediately.
i think this signing would be big, not only for this next year, but for the recruiting class that could be put together in another 2 years. maybe this will make ross, o'bryant, and the others see that we are a serious player in college basketball, and our depth chart will be right for them to step in immediately.
...last time I checked, on court results matter more than recruiting championships. We'll see how he does before any tickets are punched.
here's a video of another signing day hat ceremony production, complete with the typical hand-wringing about college sports being corrupt (hey, Chris Mills dad was in the room, nice touch), a scouting report from ESPN, and the infamous New York Times article.
I'm pretty sure some of this has been posted on here before, but I just took an interest in this today.
(and if he really is this talented, we should have no hopes for this guy being anything but a one-and-done type.)
I'm pretty sure some of this has been posted on here before, but I just took an interest in this today.
(and if he really is this talented, we should have no hopes for this guy being anything but a one-and-done type.)
majority of the credit but come on...this is clearly partially luck and a gift. We put ourselves in a great place to receive said gift, but it is still lucky. BOTH situations are. ****, sydneys dad left ms and all but said they will never come back because they wanted a more high profile area and team. They got that and in the 11th hour "something" happens.
Again, I will take it ALL DAY LONG, but both situations have luck involved. We put ourselves in the right place though. Still a gift...
Again, I will take it ALL DAY LONG, but both situations have luck involved. We put ourselves in the right place though. Still a gift...
Coach34 said:
At what point does the shmuck who constantly beats the house change from luck to hustler?
Seriously though, this isnt luck, its good fortune and being in the right place at the right time. This is college basketball recruiting for God's sake. **** changes every week and often every day.
You work hard to make your name and program known, and when you lose out on a recruit you still keep the relationship friendly just incase they decide to transfer, decommit. or dont qualify at where they declared.
This **** happens all the damn time in the spring now, since more and more schools release recruits from LOIs when coaches leave. Suddenly elite players are back on the market looking for a new school...and 9friggin9% of the time, they end up committing to a school that was originally recruiting them the first time around.
There are so many F'n examples of this, my fingers would fall off from listing them all. ALL those coaches and programs cant possibly be lucky. They are just fortunate to have set themselves up to be in the right place at the right time.
..the Ole Miss campus.
Houston Nutt recruited Snead to play @ OM, & OM was Snead's first choice all along.
Oh wait. That's fiction.
The reality-based story: Nutt has nothing to do with Snead being on the OM campus. It's all just "blind luck."
According to 34%'s logic, that's why nobody in their right mind should take the 2009 OM football season seriously...because they have a QB that "fell into Nutt's lap." Every win Nutt rings up with Snead as QB, according to coach34's idiotic way of thinking, is more a reflection of positive astrological aligments than Nutt's ability to coach.
Blind luck & great players falling into laps is relatively common place these days in college athletics.
Of course, when you have a constant axe to grind with the coach, you are going to ignore reality & go the ******* route.
Houston Nutt recruited Snead to play @ OM, & OM was Snead's first choice all along.
Oh wait. That's fiction.
The reality-based story: Nutt has nothing to do with Snead being on the OM campus. It's all just "blind luck."
According to 34%'s logic, that's why nobody in their right mind should take the 2009 OM football season seriously...because they have a QB that "fell into Nutt's lap." Every win Nutt rings up with Snead as QB, according to coach34's idiotic way of thinking, is more a reflection of positive astrological aligments than Nutt's ability to coach.
Blind luck & great players falling into laps is relatively common place these days in college athletics.
Of course, when you have a constant axe to grind with the coach, you are going to ignore reality & go the ******* route.
yeah, i got that and thats why i posted those alternative terms. For all those that dont want to call it luck, call it good fortune or being in the right place at the right time.
ultimately, he has done 5 years of legwork to establish a relationship with the player, and obviously didnt shut the door when the player comitted elsewhere. call that luck if you like.
ultimately, he has done 5 years of legwork to establish a relationship with the player, and obviously didnt shut the door when the player comitted elsewhere. call that luck if you like.
I just don't get why so many people act like "lucky" is an insult. I don't know that you are necessarily one of those people, just saying I don't understand the thought process.
Its because you know that when C34 says it, he intends it to be a pejorative. He uses it to explain away Stans' success(the LRob years). He means it as an insult, so people take it as an insult.VegasDawg13 said:
In life, when people say someone got lucky, it means they dont think the other person used any talent or ability to actually get what they got. So yeah, when people say Stans got lucky, it usually means he had nothing to do with the result.
The best archives (even better than mine) is via Google.saddawg said:
The real Snead story is all right there in the Google machine.
Everyone who has said Rick got lucky in regards to this situation in this thread has said in the exact same post that he deserves credit for being a tireless recruiter.
To not acknowledge any amount of luck here is just stupid. And to call it a synonym of lucky and then get mad at people for calling it lucky displays an elementary-level understanding of the English language.
However, we've had our share of bad luck with all of the straight to high school guys we recruited over the years. So, overall I don't think Stansbury has been particularly lucky.
To not acknowledge any amount of luck here is just stupid. And to call it a synonym of lucky and then get mad at people for calling it lucky displays an elementary-level understanding of the English language.
However, we've had our share of bad luck with all of the straight to high school guys we recruited over the years. So, overall I don't think Stansbury has been particularly lucky.
-Osby will be a junior and should be decently good. If not, he is a complete bust.
-Bailey will be a senior and should be at the very least serviceable as well.
-We'll probably still have Sidney if he does indeed sign with us, unless we make a final four run. If we do and he leaves, <span style="font-weight: bold;">who cares</span> if we have a ****** year in 2010-2011.
-Lewis will be a sophomore or rs freshmens, and he'll be at the very least ok.
-if Kodi does leave, we'll have 3 scholarship positions to give out with Barry and V leaving for sure after 09-10 (can't think of any other seniors next year). Plenty of room for another big time post recruit and/or at the very least a juco transfer to fill in holes in the area. Isn't it time for another random polish kid? Hopefully we can get another Ignerski and not another Stelmach.
In summary, <17> Kodi.
-Bailey will be a senior and should be at the very least serviceable as well.
-We'll probably still have Sidney if he does indeed sign with us, unless we make a final four run. If we do and he leaves, <span style="font-weight: bold;">who cares</span> if we have a ****** year in 2010-2011.
-Lewis will be a sophomore or rs freshmens, and he'll be at the very least ok.
-if Kodi does leave, we'll have 3 scholarship positions to give out with Barry and V leaving for sure after 09-10 (can't think of any other seniors next year). Plenty of room for another big time post recruit and/or at the very least a juco transfer to fill in holes in the area. Isn't it time for another random polish kid? Hopefully we can get another Ignerski and not another Stelmach.
In summary, <17> Kodi.
dawgstudent said:
Amen. The guy's produced in a handful of games. MSU basketball would survive his departure.
He could have fallen in Kennedy's lap but there was a college girl already there.
Little did she know...
Little did she know...
mstateglfr said:
I said this- "I'm not saying we didnt work hard recruiting him. But the guy wanted to sign with another school- not us- and that school wont let him. How is that not lucky for us?"
Fact remains- he wanted to sign with another school. He is one of the top recruits in the nation, and we were not his 1st choice- we were the fallback plan. USC won't sign him, so now he falls to us. Thats luck, and those of you saying it isnt are morons.
LR coming to State was luck. Stansbury worked hard and paid very little to get him in maroon. And not only did we get him in as a transfer, but he became IMMEDIATELY eligible. And it was when we had ****** post players. Thats luck.