well, time to figure out who is going to transfer...

[mstateglfr]

<span class="post-title">Where would Augustus go?</span>
And why would he leave??

Why would any of us know this? The season is still going on, and he hasnt said he will transfer. That means he hasnt talked to any programs.

My guess would be that he would be welcomed at hundreds of programs...seeing as how there are like 340or whatever D1 programs. But more specifically, he has the ability to score from all over the court...someone will take a 6'8 player that has his offensive skill set, and ability to rebound.

As for why...really? You really dont know why he would want to leave? come on, really?

 

[hatfieldms]

You never know which Kodi is going to show up. Unfortunately the lazy one did today

Wasnt he their MSU player of the game?

If he didnt show up today, then what the hell would you classify Ravern and Bost as doing?...not even making the Fn trip out West?

Being the player of the game for us today didnt mean a whole hell of a lot. And like I have already stated I posted that earlier when I was watching him shoot air ball 3's, and lose passes out of bounds. he definitely picked it up in the second half. And where did I say Bost or Ravern had a good day? oh yeah, I didn't.

Correct, you didnt say they had good games...because they didnt. They had horrible games. Their play was total ****.

You called the guy lazy, and yet he collected 7rebs(second most on the team) and scored 9 points(second most on the team). What i am saying is if that is what lazy is, then what the hell do you call what Ravern and Bost did?...cuz they were WAY worse than the 'lazy' Kodi.

Get my point now?

Damn son.

Damn son? really? How old are you billy bad ***? i am guessing not old enough to be my dad. Lazy is him having passes go off of his hand to go out of bounds, or passes bouncing off of his face. he just didnt seem into it in the first half. Once again the post was made in reference to the first half That is all I was saying you @@$%%@@ putz. get it now?

You clarified that is was in reference to the 1st half in a different post. I was responding to this one...you dont mention only the first half here. I read that other comment after i responded to you.

If you meant the first half, then just say that to begin with.

Face it, you just cant stand Augustus and have some odd fascination with pointing out his mistakes. Like when you posted that he had airballed a shot...yet i didnt see any new threads started by you when others on the team airballed shots or took horrible shots at illadvised times.

Its cool, you are among friends here, let your guard down and just air it out. You dont like Augustus and you like pointing out when he messes up.

Of all the players on our team, you chose to say he was the lazy one? Even in just the first half? That, SON, is some serious targeting with blinders on.

No dumb ****, I don't have a problem with Kodi at all. He looked like **** in the first half and that was my point. I would love for him to stick around, and have no reason to hate the guy. That is just ignorant. And sorry I hurt your feelings by pointing out how he air balled an open 3. At that time I had watched him lose a pass out of bounds because he wasnt paying attention, have another pass bounce off his face and then he air balled a three with nobody on him. I was aggravated and made a point. if I didn't know any better I would say you had a crush on the guy. Not that there is anything wrong with that

 

[Noliaboy75]

but, Ro (Osby) isnt even close to considering transfering. No one knows what Kodi will do, because even he doesn't. But to imply anything about Ro is imflammatory ********. I'm not going to sit here and claim why I know or dont know what I'm posting, but I'm going to give a little peace of mind to anyone who reads this garbage. Osby isn't going anywhere, and I won't argue about it. Just wait till next year and apologize on this same board for acting like a twelve year old girl spreading rumors.

 

[SallyStansbury]

In a game where we struggle to score and rebound, like this one. It PAINS me to see Augustus on the bench because he does both pretty well.....better than anyone else yesterday for sure.

I bet Kodi is scratching his head wondering why Ravern and Randy lauch airballs and coach Stans looks at the ground, but if he tosses up air, out he goes? Ravern drew air once too and was 1 for whatever, completely absent on the defensive end, yet continued to log big minutes. Adjust, give Kodi and Osby a shot, hell, give Phil Turner minutes at 2 or 3....I have said this all year. Kodi has to be wondering these things too because I know very little about basketball but I can see it? Maybe he is a dickoff in practice or rude/disrespectful to coach Stans, but because he is playing some, I have to assume that his punishment is "over"? PLAY HIM. I saw his mistakes that you listed too, but for someone having played as little as he did this season I kind of expect those mistakes. Heres hoping that he stays around. We could be really good next season with him @ 4 and Turner @ 3. Ravern as the offensive spark.

 

[fishwater99]

We have a stubborn coach, he is in LOVE with the 4 guard lineup. We have no offense to speak of, stand around the perimeter and look for a 3 pointer or throw it to SWAT for a baby hook. Yesterday UW took away our three pointer and we could do nothing b/c we have no offense, no plays, no in bounds, etc... Ravern is lazy, he never hustles after the loose ball, just stands around on defense and offense..

 

[hatfieldms]

seeing that he stated that he used it this year because he had to. I think if Stansbury had his way he would go back to how his previous teams had played. He just needs the personnel to do so

 

[mstateglfr]

seeing that he stated that he used it this year because he had to. I think if Stansbury had his way he would go back to how his previous teams had played. He just needs the personnel to do so

I hear that he is the one who recruits the personnel. If he doesnt want to play this way, then he should sign and develop more post players.
Just a thought, i know i know, it sounds just too simple to be true.

 

[fishwater99]

hatfieldms wrote: _________________________________________________ seeing that he stated that he used it this year because he had to. I think if Stansbury had his way he would go back to how his previous teams had played. He just needs the personnel to do so

I hear that he is the one who recruits the personnel. If he doesnt want to play this way, then he should sign and develop more post players.
Just a thought, i know i know, it sounds just too simple to be true.

That would require coaching. I would like to see him develop and institute a real offense, instead of the stand and shoot "motion".

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

We have a stubborn coach, he is in LOVE with the 4 guard lineup

I guess that's why he's never run this type of lineup before, because he loves it so much. Dubmass.

 

[Dawgbreeze]

I talked to two coaches this week and none of them expect any significant players to leave. I think we'll be okay unless Jarvis goes pro and that has nothing to do with transferring.

 

[fishwater99]

Stans went with the four guard lineup instead of sticking with Kodi and now we have been shown that was a mistake and are probably going to lose him to another team.

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

You don't have a clue what "truth" is.

Our coach is "in love" with the 4-guard lineup even though he's never used it before this season. Check, you're a dumbass.

Gordon ran the team last year. Check, you're a dumbass.

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[fishwater99]

Gordon ran the team the last 2 years and Stans let him. We could have been so much better if Stans had gotten a point gaurd and made J-Money play the 3. But J-Money wanted to play in the NBA and he told Stans he wanted to play point-forward. Well we know how his NBA draft went. Italy is a nice place to be... I have visited, but never lived there, maybe I can check with J-Money on that.

 

[MadDawg.sixpack]

with that 6 game winning streak and you are merely venting the frustrations of having to endure that run. Doesn't make you any less of a douchebag, but I do understand your pain.

 

[arthur vandelay.sixpack]

Stans is just really SLOW to make adjustments. This is part of why we never play up to potential early in the year and pay for it later. Also I think this is why we seem to play well in the sec tourney (we've already played them) and so bad in the big tourney. We don't usually play well against teams we see for the first time, unless we've just got more talent. Now you stans lovers, don't get your feelings hurt, he's a decent coach, and does a lot right, he just isn't good at adjustments on the fly. Hell, the seemingly best coaching decision of the sec tourney was made by Varnardo instead of stans (switching assignments with turner LSU game).

 

[fishwater99]

Typical internet board banter, should I be surprised?
If you take a look at our win streak, check the minutes played by our bench, aka (Kodi and Osby). Stans went away from the 4 guards, even though he did start them, and you see the results. He fell in LOVE with the 4 guards this year, I never said we played that way in the past. Maybe I should have used infatuated, so for the improper usage....

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[MadDawg.sixpack]

LSU fans of Italian descent?

Look, let's just cut to the chase. You hate Stans, along with coach, and you post over and over and over any slam you can make against him. Sometimes your slams have merit (transfers) sometimes they don't (stans fell in love with the 4 guard lineup) and sometimes they are just plain looney (Gordon dictated gameplans to Stans). Most of the time I just laugh it off with the rest of the board. For some strange reason I decided to post in reply today. I knew it wouldn't get us anywhere. You hate Stans and no posts from me or 6-game winning streaks, or overachieving this season, or SEC Tournament Titles, or NCAA appearances is going to change that.

So we'll just have to leave it at that. I'll go on looking forward to next year, expecting bigger and better things out of Stans and the team, and you can go on hoping something will happen in the offseason to force Stans to retire.

 

[hatfieldms]

seeing that he stated that he used it this year because he had to. I think if Stansbury had his way he would go back to how his previous teams had played. He just needs the personnel to do so

I hear that he is the one who recruits the personnel. If he doesnt want to play this way, then he should sign and develop more post players.
Just a thought, i know i know, it sounds just too simple to be true.

Last I checked he did recruit some, but Osby obviously wasnt ready and the issue with Kodi screwed things up. I do doubt that Stansbury sat Kodi solely for the reason of running a 4 guard line up. Surely you don't believe that either?

 

[fishwater99]

I never expected us to win the SEC Tourney or make the NCAA. So yesterday's lose was to be expected. I don't hate Stans, I just think he can do a better job of coaching our team sometimes. He did a good job at the end of this year and I have already given him props...

 

[mstateglfr]

seeing that he stated that he used it this year because he had to. I think if Stansbury had his way he would go back to how his previous teams had played. He just needs the personnel to do so

I hear that he is the one who recruits the personnel. If he doesnt want to play this way, then he should sign and develop more post players.
Just a thought, i know i know, it sounds just too simple to be true.

Last I checked he did recruit some, but Osby obviously wasnt ready and the issue with Kodi screwed things up. I do doubt that Stansbury sat Kodi solely for the reason of running a 4 guard line up. Surely you don't believe that either?

Osby has never been known as a post player. He wasnt in HS, he wasnt in all the recruiting stories i read on him, and he wasnt during his first year in college.
He was a pointforward/SF/whatever other label you want to call him...but dont call him a post player.

He has recruited them, but check out the other part of the sentence i typed. The part about DEVELOPING the players.
Bailey has developed, but he is still nowhere near developed enough to be dependable game after game.
Augustus...no idea if he has developed or not...didnt play enough last season to know. But he got better since the start of this season, and he is dependable enough to play significant minutes game after game, the last couple weeks show that.
Osby hasnt developed this season, and to actually expect him to come in and be dependable game after game as a freshman in the post would be absurd and unrealistic.
Brian Johnson hasnt done **** as a whole for the 2 years he has been here.

There is a rundown of Jarvis' help in the paint. This is who Stans recruited to play and developed. Come on, you really want to argue that Stans had the post area covered up? Really? We have a still raw developing player, a player who is talented but apparently has attitude/perspective issues, a player that isnt naturally a post player, and a guy that plays on 1.5 legs.

Stellar.
Like i said earlier, the man is known as some prolific recruiter(shocker, i disagree with that as well), but we will once again have nobody coming in this year that will shore up our post problems(rebounding and scoring). And we will for sure lose the 1.5 legged player, so depth will be even thinner next season.

 

[Woosaa]

need to be the starting gaurds

 

[BlindDawg]

Osby has never been known as a post player. He wasnt in HS, he wasnt in all the recruiting stories i read on him, and he wasnt during his first year in college.
He was a pointforward/SF/whatever other label you want to call him...but dont call him a post player.

From the Scout.com basketball recruiting page -
<table id="Cell0_DataGrid1" style="font-size: 10pt; width: 100%; border-collapse: collapse;" border="0" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0"> <tbody> <tr style="background-color: rgb(238, 238, 238);" valign="middle"> <td style="font-weight: bold;">PF</td> <td><span id="Cell0_DataGrid1_ctl05_Label2">20</span></td> <td><nobr><span>

</span></nobr></td> <td>Romero Osby
<span class="recruitingResultDetail">(Northeast Lauderdale HS)
<a id="Cell0_DataGrid1_ctl05_City">Meridian</a>, <a id="Cell0_DataGrid1_ctl05_State">MS</a></span></td> <td> </td> <td><nobr>6-8/230/24.0</nobr></td> <td><span><span class="recruitingResultDetail">Verbal</span></span></td> <td><span id="Cell0_DataGrid1_ctl05_Label1" class="recruitingResultDetail">Yes</span></td> <td><span class="recruitingResultDetail">Committed to Mississippi State</span></td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
Unless you're LeBron James, which I'd say we both agree he's not, I'd say 6'8"/230 coming out of high school would be classified as a power forward or a post player. Yes, he has a nice face up game and can handle the ball relatively well for his size, but that doesn't make him a point forward or small forward. He's a post player.

 

[fishwater99]

I saw Osby play in four games in High School and he did play the point forward. He brought the ball down the floor and ran the offense half the time. He played on the perimeter, not on the block. Saying that, he is having to learn a new position at MSU, so his learning curve is a little greater than you might expect.

Just because it is on the Internet doesn't make it fact.

 

[BlindDawg]

I'm not saying that's not what he did in high school, but the guy I replied to said the recruiting sites didn't refer to him as a post player and that he isn't a post player in college. I proved that wrong. If he played like you said he did in high school then him basically learning a new position would explain why he looked overmatched most of the season and why he struggled in adjusting to college ball. I think he'll be greatly improved next year. It wouldn't surprise me if he is a starter next year, but to say he's not a post player is stupid. He may play a little at the SF spot for us when we go with a big lineup, but he will be primarily a PF.

 

[Coach34]

You don't have a clue what "truth" is.

Our coach is "in love" with the 4-guard lineup even though he's never used it before this season. Check, you're a dumbass.

Gordon ran the team last year. Check, you're a dumbass.

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say what you want, but DIE-trick Slater was not a power forward, yet still played the 4- so it appears, you be the dumbass

 

[mstateglfr]

I'm not saying that's not what he did in high school, but the guy I replied to said the recruiting sites didn't refer to him as a post player and that he isn't a post player in college. I proved that wrong. If he played like you said he did in high school then him basically learning a new position would explain why he looked overmatched most of the season and why he struggled in adjusting to college ball. I think he'll be greatly improved next year. It wouldn't surprise me if he is a starter next year, but to say he's not a post player is stupid. He may play a little at the SF spot for us when we go with a big lineup, but he will be primarily a PF.

Dont. In the reports on him, you know, the ones from recruiting sites(not scout exclusively...there are others), Osby's game was described as a player who can put it on the floor and drive from up top(that would require him to be on the perimeter), initiate and also finish the fast break(ala PG skills), shoot from outside(not really PF responsibilities), etc.

Just because Scout lists him at a position doesnt mean thats what he played. And it also doesnt mean its where he will play.
Bost was a SG in HS and Prep, yet a PG in college- http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=3187948

Furthermore, i called him a POINT-FORWARD! See that last word, FORWARD? That phrase means he could initiate the offense, and also play the forward positions.

A PF, for all intents and purposes, played in the paint and will at times drift out to the midrange. That wasnt Osby in HS and hasnt been Osby in college.

Scout.com is friggin notorious for mispositioning players. SGs are PGs in their system and viceversa. PFs are Cs in their system and viceversa. SGs are SFs in their system and viceversa.
Just because Scout.com picked PF to list on his page, that doesnt mean he was that or currently is that. It can mean that is how he projects to be in college. It can also mean that is what he played in HS.

But way to do that heavy research to prove me wrong.

edited to add- http://www.clarionledger.com/misc/blogs/tkelly/2007/10/more-on-romero-osby.html
<font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" color="#FF0000">"I probably don't have the speed and quickness yet to play the point or the two-guard at Mississippi State, so I think they're going to play me at small forward and sometimes power forward," Osby said. "I feel like my versatility is going to help me in the college game.""I probably don't have the speed and quickness yet to play the point or the two-guard at Mississippi State, so I think they're going to play me at small forward and sometimes power forward," Osby said. "I feel like my versatility is going to help me in the college game."
<font color="#000000">Osby himself talks about not YET having the speed or quickness to play the PG or SG spot in college. Why would a PF in high school even bring that up? You know who would bring that up?...a PointForward. Someone who played the perimeter so they have a reason to even discuss perimeter positions.</font>
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[Coach34]

You know Who always knows whats best
He's the only coach that can win here
We have to support him and just let the players transfer
He wins SEC games, so why complain?
If he makes the Tourney enough times, common logic says he will eventually get to the 2nd weekend because Tom Izzo said its up to the players during the NCAA Tourney- not the coaches

 

[Afro Dawg]

You honestly can't just call the man Stansbury?

 

[HD6]

He evidently has pictures of DS fist deep in a horse.

 

[BlindDawg]

You know Who always knows whats best
He's the only coach that can win here
We have to support him and just let the players transfer
He wins SEC games, so why complain?
If he makes the Tourney enough times, common logic says he will eventually get to the 2nd weekend because Tom Izzo said its up to the players during the NCAA Tourney- not the coaches

WTF does all that inane ******** have to do with our debate on whether Osby is a post player or not? Quit trying to stir **** up. As for what golfer said about Osby....Its basically a given that he's is going to (probably already has) gain weight once he is on a college workout plan. Given the fact that he was already 6-8/230 I don't see him gaining weight and becoming faster like he said he needed to do to play the guard or SF spot regularly. Maybe he will and I'll be proven wrong, but I think he has the skill set to be a really good PF though. If he has any back-to-the-basket skills whatsoever then that coupled with his ability to stretch the floor to the 3 point line would make him really dangerous. The reason I say he will be primarily a PF though is because I don't think he has the speed or quickness to keep up with other SF's in the league on a regular basis. I think its something he could do on occasion but not consistently.

 

[BlindDawg]

Against my better judgment, even though it has nothing to do with the discussion you replied to, I'm replying to this BS...

You know Who always knows whats best

Sorry, I happen to trust the coach who knows a lot more about the situation and circumstances surrounding the team than I do. He wins so for the most part I support and trust his decisions.

He's the only coach that can win here

I don't recall many if any people on here saying that. People do question whether we could get someone that is a clear upgrade to replace him if he were to ever leave, but keep thinking whatever you want.

We have to support him and just let the players transfer

Just because we support him doesn't mean we can't question the transfers or other aspects of the program. Most on here have acknowledged that transfers are a problem that needs to stop, and I would venture to say that even with the Stans supporters that's the biggest problem/concern with Stansbury.

He wins SEC games, so why complain?

He wins. Do I think he could do better? Yes, but we have a good thing and people that want to get rid of him for basically not having a winning streak at the right time are ridiculous.

If he makes the Tourney enough times, common logic says he will eventually get to the 2nd weekend because Tom Izzo said its up to the players during the NCAA Tourney- not the coaches

I think he is a good enough coach to get us to the Sweet 16, and I am of the opinion that more experienced teams have a better chance to get to the second weekend than inexperienced teams. I know, crazy thought, huh? So I think if we can reel off a stretch of consecutive appearances then our chances of getting over the hump will be a lot better. As long as Stans is putting us in the Tournament on a regular basis, which he has done, I'm not going to complain too much though.

 

[DancingRabbit]

outcoached Rick? We had the talent, the crowd and the refs in our pocket. Rick just didn't coach em up?

Are you also saying that we had the talent, the crowd and the refs in our pocket when we beat Tennessee? Oh wait, I guess it was the players had seen the Vols before so they worked up the game plan on their own?

Rick had the talent and crowd edge last year and beat Oregon. He didn't have the talent and crowd edge and barely lost to Memphis.

Yeah, I agree that Rick is a "decent" coach. He's hanging a couple more banners this year.

 

[Coach34]

you take it away every time I use it

 

[HD6]

maybe you could call him "Rick" or "Stansbury." I seem to let those slide pretty much all the damn time. Retard.

 

[mstateglfr]

You know Who always knows whats best
He's the only coach that can win here
We have to support him and just let the players transfer
He wins SEC games, so why complain?
If he makes the Tourney enough times, common logic says he will eventually get to the 2nd weekend because Tom Izzo said its up to the players during the NCAA Tourney- not the coaches

I have no idea what any of this has to do with Rick's poor recruiting in the post positions as of late(my point in this thread) or with blind's view that Osby was a PF in high school(kinda his point).

Most all of my complaints with Stans are over recruiting, player development, and retention.
I think he has been plenty successful as a whole and really dont have much of a problem with his record results...im not gonna bite on complaining too much when it comes to his record or overall success as a HC.

Rick, Stans, Stansbury...all much better than 'you know who'. just sayin.

 

[Frances Drebin]

**

 

[mstateglfr]

As for what golfer said about Osby....Its basically a given that he's is going to (probably already has) gain weight once he is on a college workout plan. Given the fact that he was already 6-8/230 I don't see him gaining weight and becoming faster like he said he needed to do to play the guard or SF spot regularly. Maybe he will and I'll be proven wrong, but I think he has the skill set to be a really good PF though. If he has any back-to-the-basket skills whatsoever then that coupled with his ability to stretch the floor to the 3 point line would make him really dangerous. The reason I say he will be primarily a PF though is because I don't think he has the speed or quickness to keep up with other SF's in the league on a regular basis. I think its something he could do on occasion but not consistently.

All ive been saying Osby hasnt been known as a post player(Hatfield was saying he was).

I totally agree with you that he has could be a really good PF for us in the coming years. His skill set isnt good for the post right now, but i believe he has the talent to develop those skills. And once he has those and combines em with his ability to handle the ball and drive the lane, he will become a threat to score big in every game.

But he describes himself as a point-forward back in HS, and he has to learn how to handle the post.

 

[hatfieldms]

I never said he was known to be a PF. I was just thinking that would be us position as a college player due to his size. I had no idea where he played in college

 

[mstateglfr]

I never said he was known to be a PF.

No, all you did is show a Scout.com profile where THEY say he is a PF, and then say that you proved me wrong when i said he isnt known as a PF by posting up that profile.

Yep, big difference between you saying he was a PF and you linking a profile that says it then saying im wrong for saying he wasnt.

Haha, good one.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

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