Were you satisfied with what Stoops had to say on KSR?

screwduke

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First off, I thought the interview was well done. Pretty good questions for the most part.

I liked what Stoops had to say. He said all the right things IMO

Thoughts?
 
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i think it was very hypocritical how he said before the season that we were going to have a much improved product on the field and for all of us fans to be 'All In' and come out for a special season. To now saying since we have a really nice renovated stadium it doesn't mean he can just wave a magic wand and have a good football team, it takes time. So why make promises of a good, much improved team before the season to begin with? I don't know. I find him to be a very hypocritical person that when stuff doesn't pan out the way he says it's going to. Has all the excuses in the world as to why it didn't.
 

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Kinda wishy washy on the offense still...."we gotta get better players...yada yada"

Nothing about a core philosophy that he thinks highly of and would like to implement
 
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did he ever really state anything that would help define our offense identity? i know the question was asked but i didn't hear a defined answer.
 

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Not sure if this was asked or addressed but anything about sorta how the team has faded the second half of the season and players not giving 100% or is this tied in with the divide in the locker room. There clearly seems to some sort of issue here.
 

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Jury is still out until we see exactly what staff changes he makes.
 

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Indifferent. He said everything that he was predicted to say. Same as every other coach......lot of coach speak and generality.

I thought it was a good interview for the most part. I like his fire, passion, and drive. But general coach speak words mean little right now. We need to win.
 
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i think it was very hypocritical how he said before the season that we were going to have a much improved product on the field and for all of us fans to be 'All In' and come out for a special season. To now saying since we have a really nice renovated stadium it doesn't mean he can just wave a magic wand and have a good football team, it takes time. So why make promises of a good, much improved team before the season to begin with? I don't know. I find him to be a very hypocritical person that when stuff doesn't pan out the way he says it's going to. Has all the excuses in the world as to why it didn't.

Maybe I am wrong but I thought I recalled in the beginning of the year that he said UK would compete for the East title this year. Now I do believe you should try and coach your team and instill the confidence in them that they can, but don't come out and tell the fan base the same thing and then get frustrated with said fans when you don't even remotely come close to backing that statement up. Either he sorely misjudged his team or sold the fans a bill of goods he could not deliver on. Personally I don't think we were good enough to compete for the East but should have been a lot better product that the staff put on the field week in and week out.
 
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I have respect for him to go on the radio and face the music, but I think a large portion of the fanbase are not going to buy the talk anymore. Folks want/demand results on the field. Make your staff changes, finalize this recruiting class, and put in an offseason of your career to get this thing turned around. Guess what, the other SEC programs are getting better as well. The question now becomes is Stoops capable of getting this program to improve more this offseason than the rest. Jury is out.
 

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i think it was very hypocritical how he said before the season that we were going to have a much improved product on the field and for all of us fans to be 'All In' and come out for a special season. To now saying since we have a really nice renovated stadium it doesn't mean he can just wave a magic wand and have a good football team, it takes time. So why make promises of a good, much improved team before the season to begin with? I don't know. I find him to be a very hypocritical person that when stuff doesn't pan out the way he says it's going to. Has all the excuses in the world as to why it didn't.

It sounds like nothing he said would've made you happy anyway. I understand your feelings though.
 
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there are many issues. here is one of the biggest that people are forgetting: this is atleast a 5 year project and we are upset that year 3 is not producing results
No improvement between the years of 2 and 3. We actually have regressed since the season before. I think that's more of why people are upset, and the manner in which we are losing is kind of embarrassing. Could be wrong though.
 

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I can't listen till later today, but to the extent it's vague coachspeak this is the benchmark for me. What he said in the preseason about this year's team:

On how much better UK will be on opening day this year vs. last year:

"Significantly better. We'll be significantly better, as we should be as you move into the third year of your program. You expect to be better. That first year is always difficult, just trying to get the players, the coaches, the people the community to understand your expectations and what you demand of them. I think that second year, it's a lot about self-awareness, the players understand what they can do. This third year as we move forward, I think what the nice thing is the players clearly understand what we expect of them. And we have some experience, some guys who've been in our program, some guys that played as true freshmen two years ago, some guys that played as true freshmen a year ago. I feel like we have a good blend this year with some upper classmen who've been in our program for a couple years and some young talent that you saw last year at times ..."

http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...-mark-stoops-at-governors-cup-lunch/28417729/
 
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I can't listen till later today, but to the extent it's vague coachspeak this is the benchmark for me. What he said in the preseason about this year's team:

On how much better UK will be on opening day this year vs. last year:

"Significantly better. We'll be significantly better, as we should be as you move into the third year of your program. You expect to be better. That first year is always difficult, just trying to get the players, the coaches, the people the community to understand your expectations and what you demand of them. I think that second year, it's a lot about self-awareness, the players understand what they can do. This third year as we move forward, I think what the nice thing is the players clearly understand what we expect of them. And we have some experience, some guys who've been in our program, some guys that played as true freshmen two years ago, some guys that played as true freshmen a year ago. I feel like we have a good blend this year with some upper classmen who've been in our program for a couple years and some young talent that you saw last year at times ..."

http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...-mark-stoops-at-governors-cup-lunch/28417729/
See this is why the excuses he's coming up with now as to why things didn't pan out are becoming quite pathetic. He's a man of many mistake, and just as many excuses.
 

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See this is why the excuses he's coming up with now as to why things didn't pan out are becoming quite pathetic. He's a man of many mistake, and just as many excuses.
i wasn't aware he said all those things before the season. eek! makes the results of this season all the more unacceptable.
 
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Yes, there were plenty of excuses as well, but what I am saying I liked how he said there will definitely be changes to the staff along with his admittance of his failures.
We can only hope that these 'changes' are significant. If it's just a couple position coaches then it means nothing and will make zero difference. It needs to be coordinators, mostly Dawson.
 
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i wasn't aware he said all those things before the season. eek! makes the results of this season all the more unacceptable.
And a lot of our fans choose to ignore the promises he's made and make excuses for him as well. It's like one big storm of excuses. I can't stand a man who makes promises of a much improved team, then says he can't just wave a magic wand and have a good football team. It's a horrible loser characteristic for a coach to have.
 

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...and the manner in which we are losing is kind of embarrassing. Could be wrong though.

If the 12-0 Ohio State Buckeyes could lose to an SEC team (Florida) 41-14 in 2007 & if the 12-0 Notre Dame Fighting Irish could lose 42-14 to an SEC team (Alabama) then I'd think that "losing in that manner" could certainly happen to fairly young UK team (Stoops has only had 2 1/2 recruiting classes, BTW). For that matter, the pretty talented 2006 UK team, that went 8-5, lost to LSU 49-0 & to UL 59-28.

Embarrassing? Yes. But, embarrassing can still happen to the very best coached teams, especially when they are playing against SEC opponents.
 

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I can't listen till later today, but to the extent it's vague coachspeak this is the benchmark for me. What he said in the preseason about this year's team:

On how much better UK will be on opening day this year vs. last year:

"Significantly better. We'll be significantly better, as we should be as you move into the third year of your program. You expect to be better. That first year is always difficult, just trying to get the players, the coaches, the people the community to understand your expectations and what you demand of them. I think that second year, it's a lot about self-awareness, the players understand what they can do. This third year as we move forward, I think what the nice thing is the players clearly understand what we expect of them. And we have some experience, some guys who've been in our program, some guys that played as true freshmen two years ago, some guys that played as true freshmen a year ago. I feel like we have a good blend this year with some upper classmen who've been in our program for a couple years and some young talent that you saw last year at times ..."

http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...-mark-stoops-at-governors-cup-lunch/28417729/

If this team had stayed healthy & out of trouble, I think that Stoops preseason statements might have actually ended up being true or at least slightly true. However, UK isn't deep enough yet to withstand losing McGinnis, Boom, Hatcher, Flannigan, Lewis, JoJo, etc., and especially not when UK's once sure handed receivers start dropping more passes than could be counted. Between all of the drops, the inaccurate passes & the penalties, the O hardly could ever get into a rhythm. If McGinnis & Boom could have stayed healthy all year, UK likely beats Auburn, Vandy & UL, IMHO. That would totally have changed this conversation. Or what if D Baker doesn't drop the TD against Florida? In fairness to Stoops, I don't think that he saw all of that coming. Nor do I think that the fans did either.
 

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I thought it was a good interview that even had me excited for football a little bit but when I step back and look at the situation he still needs to win games to get me and many others to step foot in CWS again. All of the talk is good but results are better and he has to start showing that now.
 

screwduke

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We can only hope that these 'changes' are significant. If it's just a couple position coaches then it means nothing and will make zero difference. It needs to be coordinators, mostly Dawson.

Don't get your hopes up about Dawson being fired. Its rare that a coordinator is fired after one year, pretty unlikely that he's gone. If we had better QB play the offense would have looked much better. I think Eliot needs to go, he's been here longer than Dawson and there's been a very miniscule amount of improvement, if even that. And he is outschemed all the time. I'm not so sure Schlarman should be back either, the OL hasn't improved at all in 3 years, actually seems like its been getting worse each year.
 

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i think it was very hypocritical how he said before the season that we were going to have a much improved product on the field and for all of us fans to be 'All In' and come out for a special season. To now saying since we have a really nice renovated stadium it doesn't mean he can just wave a magic wand and have a good football team, it takes time. So why make promises of a good, much improved team before the season to begin with? I don't know. I find him to be a very hypocritical person that when stuff doesn't pan out the way he says it's going to. Has all the excuses in the world as to why it didn't.

I am not delusional enough to think we are Alabama and have problems with Stoops. However, you need to quit posting. You literally bash the program every single post.

Also, what's up with the username? Pretty sure(100%) Andre didn't play for UK.
 

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i think it was very hypocritical how he said before the season that we were going to have a much improved product on the field and for all of us fans to be 'All In' and come out for a special season. To now saying since we have a really nice renovated stadium it doesn't mean he can just wave a magic wand and have a good football team, it takes time. So why make promises of a good, much improved team before the season to begin with? I don't know. I find him to be a very hypocritical person that when stuff doesn't pan out the way he says it's going to. Has all the excuses in the world as to why it didn't.
Way, way in over his head! !! Seems to recruit well, but his side line management and the calling on the field looks like the Three Stooges
 
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About what one would expect. People who are supportive remain so and those who think he pissed in their Wheaties still think so.
 

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I'm in the camp that wants badly to support Coach because I like him, believe he wants this as much for us as he does for him, is genuinely working his butt off to try and make it work, and is definitely passionate about it doing it here and not somewhere else.

I think he came across like I expected him to as someone who knows he has to get better at what he does and is hell bent to do it . . . again not as much to save his job as he really wants this place to explode with football and can see it happening in his head.

That said there were a couple of things disappointment me in his interview. The first is he still seems more defensive than I think he needs to be. I chock that up to being a Stoops kids that only knows one way to go and that's to stand up and fight for himself and compete. But when challenged on matters that are critical I'd like to see him learn to just say, "yeah we struggled with that some and my staff and I are going to work like heck to get better at that".

The other is a theme he's started of reminding everybody about the struggling history of this program. That does not work at all or win him any points even with his supporters like me. Even if true we already know that and the last thing we need is reminded of it - we lived it! We didn't bring him in to remind us of that, we brought him in to fix it and although I get the big picture that it takes a while to build talent and a program, none of that prevents us from being organized, making the right calls in critical situations, or being better prepared for the run option. Plus it will never come off as anything more than excuse making to most.

So Coach don't spend time telling us what we already know, don't be so defensive because we understand you're a young coach too that can only get better. Keep doing what you're doing bringing in talent like never before, coach them up, continue to grow with your staff in what you do and we'll run through walls for you for a long time brother. Cause if it's going to happen for us theres nobody a lot of us would rather have do it for us.
 

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If this team had stayed healthy & out of trouble, I think that Stoops preseason statements might have actually ended up being true or at least slightly true. However, UK isn't deep enough yet to withstand losing McGinnis, Boom, Hatcher, Flannigan, Lewis, JoJo, etc., and especially not when UK's once sure handed receivers start dropping more passes than could be counted. Between all of the drops, the inaccurate passes & the penalties, the O hardly could ever get into a rhythm. If McGinnis & Boom could have stayed healthy all year, UK likely beats Auburn, Vandy & UL, IMHO. That would totally have changed this conversation. Or what if D Baker doesn't drop the TD against Florida? In fairness to Stoops, I don't think that he saw all of that coming. Nor do I think that the fans did either.

Fair enough, but that's a lot of if's. In the end, the underlying metrics suggest our record was better than our team was ... i.e., we grade out closer to a 3-9/4-8 team than the 5-7 team we were. Let alone a 6-6 bowl-eligible team.

I'll report back after I've actually listened to the guy talk. [banana]
 

Mr Schwump

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I'm in the camp that wants badly to support Coach because I like him, believe he wants this as much for us as he does for him, is genuinely working his butt off to try and make it work, and is definitely passionate about it doing it here and not somewhere else.

I think he came across like I expected him to as someone who knows he has to get better at what he does and is hell bent to do it . . . again not as much to save his job as he really wants this place to explode with football and can see it happening in his head.

That said there were a couple of things disappointment me in his interview. The first is he still seems more defensive than I think he needs to be. I chock that up to being a Stoops kids that only knows one way to go and that's to stand up and fight for himself and compete. But when challenged on matters that are critical I'd like to see him learn to just say, "yeah we struggled with that some and my staff and I are going to work like heck to get better at that".

The other is a theme he's started of reminding everybody about the struggling history of this program. That does not work at all or win him any points even with his supporters like me. Even if true we already know that and the last thing we need is reminded of it - we lived it! We didn't bring him in to remind us of that, we brought him in to fix it and although I get the big picture that it takes a while to build talent and a program, none of that prevents us from being organized, making the right calls in critical situations, or being better prepared for the run option. Plus it will never come off as anything more than excuse making to most.

So Coach don't spend time telling us what we already know, don't be so defensive because we understand you're a young coach too that can only get better. Keep doing what you're doing bringing in talent like never before, coach them up, continue to grow with your staff in what you do and we'll run through walls for you for a long time brother. Cause if it's going to happen for us theres nobody a lot of us would rather have do it for us.

Soup, I agree with this especially the comments about the history of the program. Heard an in-state commit make reference to UK being a "basketball school." True but to me that, and Stoops comments re program history, are built-in excuses to fail. Just build your program and move forward. Far too many UK fans live in the past anyway. Move ahead and don't look back.
 
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If this team had stayed healthy & out of trouble, I think that Stoops preseason statements might have actually ended up being true or at least slightly true. However, UK isn't deep enough yet to withstand losing McGinnis, Boom, Hatcher, Flannigan, Lewis, JoJo, etc., and especially not when UK's once sure handed receivers start dropping more passes than could be counted. Between all of the drops, the inaccurate passes & the penalties, the O hardly could ever get into a rhythm. If McGinnis & Boom could have stayed healthy all year, UK likely beats Auburn, Vandy & UL, IMHO. That would totally have changed this conversation. Or what if D Baker doesn't drop the TD against Florida? In fairness to Stoops, I don't think that he saw all of that coming. Nor do I think that the fans did either.

Every team has injuries. Not every team benefits from playing in the SEC LEast.

You mention the games that UK could have won, but you fail to mention those it could have lost - ULL, USC and EKU. Those things have a way of evening themselves out.
 

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Personally, I loved his interview and I am happy he came on, he is giving me hope. I hope he keeps an open line to the fan base.

President Obama was all about hope. The question really is whether or not winning 5 games next year will satisfy the fan base. I personally think winning 5 games next year will be an accomplishment.
 

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I was fine with it. He really didn't have to do it. I really don't know what people expected him to say. Some UK fans ***** just to hear themselves talk. If he hadn't came on, people who hate him would have bitched about him not talking. He can't win with some fans. The guy needs to win on the field. We know that and he sure as hell knows it.
 

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The time and patience for Stoops' coach-speak is over and done. Prove it to me on the field...
 
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Excuses and dragging up history is a bad sign, admitting some games aren't winnable is a red flag too as the players lose confidence in coaches when this happens, they seriously regressed thru season.

He totally didn't answer the Boom question when everybody knows him quitting the team was the first shoe to drop with certain attitude issues.

Coach speak Mumbo Jumbo

He is circling the drain
 
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Excuses and dragging up history is a bad sign, admitting some games aren't winnable is a red flag too the players lose confidence in coaches when this happens, they seriously regressed thru season.

He totally didn't answer the Boom question when everybody knows him quitting the team was the first show to drop with attitude issue.

Coach speak Mumbo Jumbo

He is circling the drain
I think you are spot on in your analysis, it is disappointing hearing these comments from CMS. I had high hopes for him, but he seems like he has been infected by the UK Football malaise.
 

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The time and patience for Stoops' coach-speak is over and done. Prove it to me on the field...

Pretty much. My expectations are much lower for his peak (6-7 wins tops for this guy as he is not a good coach), but even that is hopeful thinking at this point IMO. He has to prove he can win that 6th game. He couldn't do it this year against Vandy/UL so I'm not sure if he will next year either.
 

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Thought he got a little testy when asked about the trick play at Vandy. If I had to pick one play that broke the season, that was it. Just no excuse for getting snookered like that. I want Stoops to succeed, but dayum, some basic things need to be tightened up.