i think it was very hypocritical how he said before the season that we were going to have a much improved product on the field and for all of us fans to be 'All In' and come out for a special season. To now saying since we have a really nice renovated stadium it doesn't mean he can just wave a magic wand and have a good football team, it takes time. So why make promises of a good, much improved team before the season to begin with? I don't know. I find him to be a very hypocritical person that when stuff doesn't pan out the way he says it's going to. Has all the excuses in the world as to why it didn't.
i think it was very hypocritical how he said before the season that we were going to have a much improved product on the field and for all of us fans to be 'All In' and come out for a special season. To now saying since we have a really nice renovated stadium it doesn't mean he can just wave a magic wand and have a good football team, it takes time. So why make promises of a good, much improved team before the season to begin with? I don't know. I find him to be a very hypocritical person that when stuff doesn't pan out the way he says it's going to. Has all the excuses in the world as to why it didn't.
No improvement between the years of 2 and 3. We actually have regressed since the season before. I think that's more of why people are upset, and the manner in which we are losing is kind of embarrassing. Could be wrong though.there are many issues. here is one of the biggest that people are forgetting: this is atleast a 5 year project and we are upset that year 3 is not producing results
See this is why the excuses he's coming up with now as to why things didn't pan out are becoming quite pathetic. He's a man of many mistake, and just as many excuses.I can't listen till later today, but to the extent it's vague coachspeak this is the benchmark for me. What he said in the preseason about this year's team:
On how much better UK will be on opening day this year vs. last year:
"Significantly better. We'll be significantly better, as we should be as you move into the third year of your program. You expect to be better. That first year is always difficult, just trying to get the players, the coaches, the people the community to understand your expectations and what you demand of them. I think that second year, it's a lot about self-awareness, the players understand what they can do. This third year as we move forward, I think what the nice thing is the players clearly understand what we expect of them. And we have some experience, some guys who've been in our program, some guys that played as true freshmen two years ago, some guys that played as true freshmen a year ago. I feel like we have a good blend this year with some upper classmen who've been in our program for a couple years and some young talent that you saw last year at times ..."
http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...-mark-stoops-at-governors-cup-lunch/28417729/
Huh? All I heard were excuses.Personally, I loved his interview and I am happy he came on, he is giving me hope. I hope he keeps an open line to the fan base.
Huh? All I heard were excuses.
i wasn't aware he said all those things before the season. eek! makes the results of this season all the more unacceptable.See this is why the excuses he's coming up with now as to why things didn't pan out are becoming quite pathetic. He's a man of many mistake, and just as many excuses.
We can only hope that these 'changes' are significant. If it's just a couple position coaches then it means nothing and will make zero difference. It needs to be coordinators, mostly Dawson.Yes, there were plenty of excuses as well, but what I am saying I liked how he said there will definitely be changes to the staff along with his admittance of his failures.
And a lot of our fans choose to ignore the promises he's made and make excuses for him as well. It's like one big storm of excuses. I can't stand a man who makes promises of a much improved team, then says he can't just wave a magic wand and have a good football team. It's a horrible loser characteristic for a coach to have.i wasn't aware he said all those things before the season. eek! makes the results of this season all the more unacceptable.
...and the manner in which we are losing is kind of embarrassing. Could be wrong though.
I can't listen till later today, but to the extent it's vague coachspeak this is the benchmark for me. What he said in the preseason about this year's team:
On how much better UK will be on opening day this year vs. last year:
"Significantly better. We'll be significantly better, as we should be as you move into the third year of your program. You expect to be better. That first year is always difficult, just trying to get the players, the coaches, the people the community to understand your expectations and what you demand of them. I think that second year, it's a lot about self-awareness, the players understand what they can do. This third year as we move forward, I think what the nice thing is the players clearly understand what we expect of them. And we have some experience, some guys who've been in our program, some guys that played as true freshmen two years ago, some guys that played as true freshmen a year ago. I feel like we have a good blend this year with some upper classmen who've been in our program for a couple years and some young talent that you saw last year at times ..."
http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...-mark-stoops-at-governors-cup-lunch/28417729/
We can only hope that these 'changes' are significant. If it's just a couple position coaches then it means nothing and will make zero difference. It needs to be coordinators, mostly Dawson.
i think it was very hypocritical how he said before the season that we were going to have a much improved product on the field and for all of us fans to be 'All In' and come out for a special season. To now saying since we have a really nice renovated stadium it doesn't mean he can just wave a magic wand and have a good football team, it takes time. So why make promises of a good, much improved team before the season to begin with? I don't know. I find him to be a very hypocritical person that when stuff doesn't pan out the way he says it's going to. Has all the excuses in the world as to why it didn't.
Way, way in over his head! !! Seems to recruit well, but his side line management and the calling on the field looks like the Three Stoogesi think it was very hypocritical how he said before the season that we were going to have a much improved product on the field and for all of us fans to be 'All In' and come out for a special season. To now saying since we have a really nice renovated stadium it doesn't mean he can just wave a magic wand and have a good football team, it takes time. So why make promises of a good, much improved team before the season to begin with? I don't know. I find him to be a very hypocritical person that when stuff doesn't pan out the way he says it's going to. Has all the excuses in the world as to why it didn't.
If this team had stayed healthy & out of trouble, I think that Stoops preseason statements might have actually ended up being true or at least slightly true. However, UK isn't deep enough yet to withstand losing McGinnis, Boom, Hatcher, Flannigan, Lewis, JoJo, etc., and especially not when UK's once sure handed receivers start dropping more passes than could be counted. Between all of the drops, the inaccurate passes & the penalties, the O hardly could ever get into a rhythm. If McGinnis & Boom could have stayed healthy all year, UK likely beats Auburn, Vandy & UL, IMHO. That would totally have changed this conversation. Or what if D Baker doesn't drop the TD against Florida? In fairness to Stoops, I don't think that he saw all of that coming. Nor do I think that the fans did either.
I'm in the camp that wants badly to support Coach because I like him, believe he wants this as much for us as he does for him, is genuinely working his butt off to try and make it work, and is definitely passionate about it doing it here and not somewhere else.
I think he came across like I expected him to as someone who knows he has to get better at what he does and is hell bent to do it . . . again not as much to save his job as he really wants this place to explode with football and can see it happening in his head.
That said there were a couple of things disappointment me in his interview. The first is he still seems more defensive than I think he needs to be. I chock that up to being a Stoops kids that only knows one way to go and that's to stand up and fight for himself and compete. But when challenged on matters that are critical I'd like to see him learn to just say, "yeah we struggled with that some and my staff and I are going to work like heck to get better at that".
The other is a theme he's started of reminding everybody about the struggling history of this program. That does not work at all or win him any points even with his supporters like me. Even if true we already know that and the last thing we need is reminded of it - we lived it! We didn't bring him in to remind us of that, we brought him in to fix it and although I get the big picture that it takes a while to build talent and a program, none of that prevents us from being organized, making the right calls in critical situations, or being better prepared for the run option. Plus it will never come off as anything more than excuse making to most.
So Coach don't spend time telling us what we already know, don't be so defensive because we understand you're a young coach too that can only get better. Keep doing what you're doing bringing in talent like never before, coach them up, continue to grow with your staff in what you do and we'll run through walls for you for a long time brother. Cause if it's going to happen for us theres nobody a lot of us would rather have do it for us.
If this team had stayed healthy & out of trouble, I think that Stoops preseason statements might have actually ended up being true or at least slightly true. However, UK isn't deep enough yet to withstand losing McGinnis, Boom, Hatcher, Flannigan, Lewis, JoJo, etc., and especially not when UK's once sure handed receivers start dropping more passes than could be counted. Between all of the drops, the inaccurate passes & the penalties, the O hardly could ever get into a rhythm. If McGinnis & Boom could have stayed healthy all year, UK likely beats Auburn, Vandy & UL, IMHO. That would totally have changed this conversation. Or what if D Baker doesn't drop the TD against Florida? In fairness to Stoops, I don't think that he saw all of that coming. Nor do I think that the fans did either.
Personally, I loved his interview and I am happy he came on, he is giving me hope. I hope he keeps an open line to the fan base.
About what one would expect. People who are supportive remain so and those who think he pissed in their Wheaties still think so.
I think you are spot on in your analysis, it is disappointing hearing these comments from CMS. I had high hopes for him, but he seems like he has been infected by the UK Football malaise.Excuses and dragging up history is a bad sign, admitting some games aren't winnable is a red flag too the players lose confidence in coaches when this happens, they seriously regressed thru season.
He totally didn't answer the Boom question when everybody knows him quitting the team was the first show to drop with attitude issue.
Coach speak Mumbo Jumbo
He is circling the drain
The time and patience for Stoops' coach-speak is over and done. Prove it to me on the field...