West Virginia needs to legalize Marijuana now. Colorado has made a ton of money off Legal buds. All the claims the prohibitionists have made are false. They have resorted to flat out lying they can't admit that the world hasn't ended, that tax revenues have gone up, teen marijuana use is down, crime is down, and Dwi's are down. WV can use the money get in the action while its not too late. People are gonna burn the Buds regardless of whether its legal or not, might as well make money off of it
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I'm not going to smoke weed whether it is legal or not, but the hypocrisy is what bothers me the most. If weed is illegal, so should alcohol and tobacco be. If weed is a gateway drug, then so is alcohol.
I have seen WAY more lives ruined by marijuana laws than by using marijuana...
I don't smoke weed or drink alcohol or use tobacco products but in a free society people are going to use these substances some will use them responsible, some will abuse them but laws should be consistent for all
100% against the legalization of recreational pot. I am for medical marijuana. This has been beaten to death on this board and the split for and against is about equal. Unless there is something new or interesting on this topic, I don't intend to rehash arguments that have been going on for years.
What is the difference between Legal and recreational marijuana? People will use regardless are you for or against the recreational use of tobacco or alcohol?
I am against the legalization of pot for recreation use. I thought that was pretty simple to understand the first time I posted it. I want pot to remain a controlled substance and all efforts we can do to keep it out of our kids possession, the better in my eyes. I will agree people will use it regardless but I'm in favor of legal consequences if people use pot and harsher penalties for those that grow, sell or distribute it. The country has decided to have alcohol and tobacco to be legal but highly regulated in this country and until that is changed, that is about the limit these analogies go for me. I do agree similar harm can be caused by alcohol and tobacco but for now, that ship has sailed. I also want to protect minors from using those gateway "drugs" as well.
I'm done on this subject and I only responded to you as I don't recognize your name. Maybe others will play with you on this topic.
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Alcohol is a gateway drug also regardless of what you think. all states that have legalized marijuana have also put in strict regulations regarding the sale and distribution. In Colorado it is illegal for anyone under the age of 21 to possess purchase or sell marijuana. since legalization in Colorado Teen usage has declined. Since Nixon started the war on drugs the trillions of dollars spent have failed to keep drugs out of the hands of minors. Its not question of if marijuana will be legal in West Virginia its when. stop listening to the prohibitionist propaganda
You obviously have reading problems like many others on here since you have responded twice arguing something that was clearly stated. Read again and you will see I agree alcohol is indeed a gateway drug.
The hands of minors is typical prohibitionist propaganda. Since you question peoples ability to read than maybe all the trillions of dollars being wasted could be better spent on educational programs. I'm sure you would not have a problem with this since wasting the tax payers money on the unwinnable war on drugs doesn't seem to bother you
I agree, WV should legalize it. It is already the biggest cash crop in the state by far and we get nothing out of it. The gateway drug for kids argument is total nonsense since it is illegal now and they can and do get it anytime they want.
I don't put a price tag on right vs wrong. You do obviously. In my viewpoint, that is a bigger problem.
Since you are so brilliant and have all the answers, let me ask you a question. Since legalization in Colorado, do you think that has eliminated pot being sold on the streets illegally and do you think minors in Colorado are unable to get pot? Might want to check some facts before answering.
All legalization has done is made it easier for those that want to use it to get it in a store. Sure, there is some minor financial gains for the government due to taxes but don't think for one minute that Colorado is still not prosecuting and spending taxpayer funds on those that are still breaking the law.
Since legalization teen drug use in Colorado is down that is a fact. Yes there are still people that sell marijuana illegally but it is mostly growers selling to out of state customers in bulk. Mexican cartel weed has virtually disappeared from Colorado streets. If teens want access to marijuana or any other substance they will get it. Teens in West Virginia are getting stoned and drunk as we speak. Every dollar spent on the war on drugs is a waste. It could be better spent on education, the war on terror etc etc not some war that is 100% guaranteed loss
Can you not argue your point without acting like a sanctimonious douche? I can see why you and Bud are friends...
You must be on crack. Making no sense but keep hurling attacks. Everyone can see who responded to who and then just posting nonsense. Have anymore, tough guy?
Why not legalize Heroin? Or cocaine? It's a "free society", right? I mean crime would be way down if they would just legalize everything. Right? 
Exactly. And then you can tax it and make money while ruining the country all at the same time. Sounds logical to me.Why not legalize Heroin? Or cocaine? It's a "free society", right? I mean crime would be way down if they would just legalize everything. Right?
Why not legalize Heroin? Or cocaine? It's a "free society", right? I mean crime would be way down if they would just legalize everything. Right?
I agree, you make some good points. Who are we to decide whats good or bad.
The mind of a prohibitionist is so susceptible to propaganda that they can't see through the lies they are told. They always claim that drug legalization will lead us on the road to hell. They never tell you the story of Portugal who has the most liberal drug laws of any country in the world. In 2000 they decriminalized all drugs and since that time there rate of Heroin and cocaine addiction have plummeted. More access did not lead to higher rates it lead to a decrease. Before decriminalization they had some of the worst addiction rates in Europe now there addiction rates are cut in half. The prohibitionist will not tell you that Mexican farmers are cutting there marijuana production due to the lack of profitability now that more states have recreational and medical marijuana laws. The prohibitionist is more interested in keeping the cartels of Columbia and Mexico in business and wasting tax payer money on an unwinnable war
By all means, please explain that philosophy to me. How can legalizing a drug lead to the DIMINISHED usage of that drug? Perhaps it isn't us "prohibitionists" who have been brainwashed? Perhaps you are the one that is reading misguided statistics and propaganda designed to serve an agenda? Just saying.
Personally, I hope all those who are addicted to heroin and other hardcore drugs get what they deserve.....I'm tired of my taxpayer dollars going to "rehabilitate" these people.
Probably a supply thing. If you decriminalize something like heroin the price comes down so much it is not profitable to grow and import so the supply dries up and once all the addicts die or clean up the overall usage lowers.
Or it has the Henry Ford affect......lower the price of the product and MORE people purchase it resulting in higher profit margins.......
Hard to buy something that has no supply. People can grow pot. Poppy isnt so easy to grow.
Dave, you seem to be a smart man. Just like weed, technology has improved the cultivation of that crop 10 fold at least. Same would happen with legalization of other drugs. Crime is lowered simply because people aren't being arrested as much for usage, unless they abuse it. People then claim "see, legalize it and it helps society" when in fact it probably doesn't.
I dont support the legalization of drugs. I do believe the stats that show that addiction lowers when it is legalized. I dont know a lot about cultivating weed or any other drug. I can barely keep my rhododendrons alive. I was just trying to figure out why it affects addiction.
Portugal decriminalized drugs in 2000 and there addiction rates are cut in half every study and statistic says the same thing. Even the conservative Cato institute agrees with the findings. Your mind has been poisoned by propaganda. You can't accept the facts for what they are. You think that throwing people in jail is the solution. The more you fight it the more you drive up the profits of the Mexican and Columbia cartels. You would rather adhere to a failed policy than seek a real solution.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/03/portugal-drug-decriminalization_n_6606056.html
Dave, MountaineerWV, and Colorado. Thanks for being able to disagree, but doing it without the personal attacks or sanctimonious behavior...
OK, again, give me reasons why the availability of drugs lowers the addiction rates?
Maybe its the forbidden fruit phenomenon whatever the reason is drug use is down in that county. Since Colorado legalized marijuana teen marijuana use is down. Legalized substances see the price decrease and the black market organizations that produce the substances have less of an incentive to supply the product. The current usa policy has been a failure trillions of dollars spent have not made a dent in the drug trade. its time to discontinue this failed policy
Well Hell. Legalize EVERYTHING THEN! No speed limits either. Hey, another great idea. Since robbery is a problem, let's just make everything free for people to take so that will cut down on that crime as well.
The prohibitionist propaganda has blinded you. The prohibitionist are losing the war on drugs they can't admit that decriminalization has lead to decreased usage. every lie they have told has been disproved they have nothing to offer except the continued wasting of tax payers money on a losing battle
I've humored you enough. But this "prohibitionist propaganda" talk is old....
They should only make anything illegal IF someone else is harmed. If I am not mistaken robbery is taking something that belongs to another person. If you are stoned and cause harm to someone you should pay the price.
Speed limits are not about limiting freedoms either. Highways are designed to standards design speeds. A freeway is designed to 60 mph design speed so grades, curves and banking is designed so vehicles can drive under control, stop when needed and have appropriate sight distance to minimize fatalities. Usually the speed limit is eqyal to or 10 mph more than the design speed. The spped limit is not some number politicians pick to limit driver freedoms.