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<blockquote data-quote="The Bell Tolls for Thee" data-source="post: 132533689" data-attributes="member: 1812660">That is incoherent babble and does not answer my question at all.&nbsp; That said, if you are trying to argue that Brown in his first 4.25 years is inarguably better than Holgorsen, you are out of your mind.&nbsp; I am no Holgorsen apologist and wanted that clown to start delivering real progress after that 3rd year destroyed all good will the Orange Bowl had earned him from me.&nbsp; By middle of year 5 I wanted him gone and dreaded he would do exactly what he did which was do just enough to not get fired, but never actually put WVU in position to maybe compete for something big.Now the question isn't Holgorsen vs Brown.&nbsp; It is, what about Brown in these last 4.25 years makes you think his ceiling is more than maybe winning 7-9 games a year, but never really being a playoff contender like Holgorsen was for WVU?&nbsp; Because Brown would have to IMPROVE to just get to Holgorsen's level at WVU which we both seem to agree was not good enough.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Bell Tolls for Thee, post: 132533689, member: 1812660"] That is incoherent babble and does not answer my question at all. That said, if you are trying to argue that Brown in his first 4.25 years is inarguably better than Holgorsen, you are out of your mind. I am no Holgorsen apologist and wanted that clown to start delivering real progress after that 3rd year destroyed all good will the Orange Bowl had earned him from me. By middle of year 5 I wanted him gone and dreaded he would do exactly what he did which was do just enough to not get fired, but never actually put WVU in position to maybe compete for something big. Now the question isn't Holgorsen vs Brown. It is, what about Brown in these last 4.25 years makes you think his ceiling is more than maybe winning 7-9 games a year, but never really being a playoff contender like Holgorsen was for WVU? Because Brown would have to IMPROVE to just get to Holgorsen's level at WVU which we both seem to agree was not good enough. [/QUOTE]

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