What’s the $$ amount where a pro baseball contract…

[dawgstudent]

Outweighs an NIL contract.

Would same $$$ be worth it? So if you got a 500k offer to sign pro and 500k to come to state - what would you do? I’m coming to State.

I think double the signing bonus over college offer makes me go pro.

Anything under 500k - I’m going to college regardless.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Probably won’t matter most of the time. Not but a few teams actually paying NIL to baseball players.

 

[anon1758050382]

The MLB signing bonus is the bulk of your pay for three years.

So if a college program is offering you that for one season, that’s a good deal.

It is interesting how the dynamics of college sports can complicate things for MLB teams trying to sign draft picks.

 

[Herbert Nenninger]

It’s a calculated gamble either way. A good friend of mine growing up was the MS Gatorade player of the year. He was supposed to be a 1st or 2nd rounder, but he fell to about the 20th because of his asking price. The story I heard was he was offered 900,000, and he was asking 1 million (this was 2001). He came to State and his arm was washed up, and he never pitched an inning.

 

[mcdawg22]

 

[Maroon13]

It all depends on one's situation. Does this person have a middle class to wealthy family? Are they a good student?

Both of this questions were a No for me at 18 years old. I would have taken any amount that was equal or more than my best nil offer.

As an older wiser man, I'd like to say I would go to school unless it was millions. But... 18 years old .....

 

[ZombieKissinger]

A factor too is chances of making MLB and speed of getting called up. The faster you get called up, the better chance you have to get a big contract later because you’re young enough to get a good deal. Like, Bryce Harper was 26 when he signed his 13 year contract.

If someone went to college, got drafted at 21, and spent 3 years in the minors, they’d be 30 at their first free agent contract, so wouldn’t get as many years out of it. That’s the vast minority of players though

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

It’s a calculated gamble either way. A good friend of mine growing up was the MS Gatorade player of the year. He was supposed to be a 1st or 2nd rounder, but he fell to about the 20th because of his asking price. The story I heard was he was offered 900,000, and he was asking 1 million (this was 2001). He came to State and his arm was washed up, and he never pitched an inning.

Never even pitched at State?

 

[Drebin]

Outweighs an NIL contract.

Would same $$$ be worth it? So if you got a 500k offer to sign pro and 500k to come to state - what would you do? I’m coming to State.

I think double the signing bonus over college offer makes me go pro.

Anything under 500k - I’m going to college regardless.

I think there are too many variables. Is the player's family well off? How big is the signing bonus? What's worse, long bus rides in low A ball or having to go to class?

it's probably advantageous to get into a pro organization as soon as possible. Personal preference, I'd want to go to college. I can see both sides.

 

[patdog]

I think double the signing bonus over college offer makes me go pro.

Anything under 500k - I’m going to college regardless.

This is probably not a bad rule of thumb.

 

[DerHntr]

Being “wealthy” in college compared to almost the entire student population would be an absolute blast. It would be a blessing and a curse, though. Can you imagine being paid $200k per year as an athlete? The number of cleat chasers would be unimaginable for an 18-21 year man. Throw in the financial ability to party whenever you want, and it’s a recipe for disaster.

I want to know how the coaches plan to keep it under control. If you piss a player off with a bunch of rules, they can leave to play for your rival next year and get a raise.

 

[dawgstudent]

Being “wealthy” in college compared to almost the entire student population would be an absolute blast. It would be a blessing and a curse, though. Can you imagine being paid $200k per year as an athlete? The number of cleat chasers would be unimaginable for an 18-21 year man. Throw in the financial ability to party whenever you want, and it’s a recipe for disaster.

I want to know how the coaches plan to keep it under control. If you piss a player off with a bunch of rules, they can leave to play for your rival next year and get a raise.

I think/hope in the next few years - there will be some type of contract associated with the $$$.

 

[Dawgzilla2]

I think/hope in the next few years - there will be some type of contract associated with the $$$.

They are signing multi year contracts right now, with buyouts I just wonder if those are enforceable. Im sure we will find out once football season is over.

 

[patdog]

I think/hope in the next few years - there will be some type of contract associated with the $$$.

There has to be. The way it is now, a kid can sign a 3-year contract today and then go transfer as a free agent in 6 months. If you're under contract and transfer, the school you're leaving needs to be compensated. Best answer would be a transfer fee system. I have little hope that will happen though.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

It’s a calculated gamble either way. A good friend of mine growing up was the MS Gatorade player of the year. He was supposed to be a 1st or 2nd rounder, but he fell to about the 20th because of his asking price. The story I heard was he was offered 900,000, and he was asking 1 million (this was 2001). He came to State and his arm was washed up, and he never pitched an inning.

Craig Tatum was POY in 2001.

 

[Herbert Nenninger]

Craig Tatum was POY in 2001.

Not Tatum. Excuse my dubmassery. Must have been Mr Baseball or something similar.

 

[mstateglfr]

Thats dollars, not thousands or hundreds of thousands.
$3.50 over whatever I know I will make in NIL?...yep, I will be on the first plane to the Arizona Complex or wherever I have to go play Rookie ball.

College can be done online or after I wash out of the League.

 

[Dawgzilla2]

There has to be. The way it is now, a kid can sign a 3-year contract today and then go transfer as a free agent in 6 months. If you're under contract and transfer, the school you're leaving needs to be compensated. Best answer would be a transfer fee system. I have little hope that will happen though.

Wisconsin already sued Miami for interference, by inducing Xavier Lucas to break his 2 year deal. CSC says if a school pays a buyout to another school, then that payment counts against the new school's cap limit.

I suspect there will be lawsuits filed at the end of the season, with players looking to break their multi year deals.

The problem is, no one is going to stop players like Lucas from playing at their new school. Its just a question of money exchanged between the schools. So, these lawsuits may take a while to resolve.

 

[patdog]

Wisconsin already sued Miami for interference, by inducing Xavier Lucas to break his 2 year deal. CSC says if a school pays a buyout to another school, then that payment counts against the new school's cap limit.

I suspect there will be lawsuits filed at the end of the season, with players looking to break their multi year deals.

The problem is, no one is going to stop players like Lucas from playing at their new school. Its just a question of money exchanged between the schools. So, these lawsuits may take a while to resolve.

One thing I remember from Judge Eshee's Business Law class is you can't force specific performance on a personal services contract. Only damages. So yeah, the player can go play wherever he wants to, it's just a question of who has to pay the school he's leaving and how much. Which is something that needs to be specified in the original contract.

 

[Dawgzilla2]

One thing I remember from Judge Eshee's Business Law class is you can't force specific performance on a personal services contract. Only damages. So yeah, the player can go play wherever he wants to, it's just a question of who has to pay the school he's leaving and how much. Which is something that needs to be specified in the original contract.

In the Wisconsin case, UW would not allow Lucas to enter the transfer portal, because he had just signed his 2 year deal. So, he just enrolled at Miami on his own without the portal. NCAA says it has no rule against that.