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<blockquote data-quote="The Bell Tolls for Thee" data-source="post: 131949501" data-attributes="member: 1812660"><p>I am not making a narrative, I am giving you facts.</p><p></p><p>Fact 1: COVID only ever posed a slight increased risk for the vast majority of people in the world compared to the pre-existing risks of daily life we all had no problem managing prior to the pandemic. Those to which it already posed an increased risk were also at increased risk from daily life compared to the average person. COVID was an outsized risk to this subset of people.</p><p></p><p>Fact 2: The current variant poses much less of a risk to the vast majority of people in the world even if unvaccinated and untreated (not receiving dexamethasone, monoclonal antibodies, remdesivir) than the original strain.</p><p></p><p>Fact 3: At this current time those who can get the vaccinations and therapeutics (assuming the therapeutics are necessary as over 98% of all COVID cases require at worst cold/flu treatment and do not require any of the therapeutics mentioned above) do not have any significant increased risk from this virus than if that same person caught influenza.</p><p></p><p>Fact 4: Cloth and regular surgical masks can reduce droplets and provide some benefit of protection in short interactions. But with an aerosolized virus, these masks are useless if you are going to be in close proximity, while in doors, for more than just a few minutes. Especially in a large crowd. </p><p></p><p>Fact 5: With the current free vaccinations and K95's available, the individual has all of the control regarding their risk. Getting vaxxed, wearing a K95 in all social settings, and avoiding prolonged social interactions unless absolutely necessary will provide the only significant protection from catching COVID. This is not improved or hindered AT ALL by other people around you wearing or not wearing masks. Therefore, outside of a very small subset of the population, Americans have all the tools at their disposal to decrease their current risk from COVID to even less than they would during a regular unmasked flu season REGARDLESS of what anyone around them does.</p><p></p><p>Fact 6: The unfortunate subset mentioned in Fact 5 (such as the immunocompromised or those with vaccine hypersensitivities) are not new and have always existed in society. Previously they had to assess their own risk and change their behavior to avoid those risks rather than expecting everyone else to change their behavior to mitigate their risk.</p><p></p><p>Thus it is hubris to expect everyone else to do what you want so you do not have to constantly wear the very uncomfortable N95 while engaging in an absolutely unnecessary entertainment activity. Especially since, as noted in fact 4, the proposed action to be taken doesn't actually prevent risk of COVID. It only provides the illusion of security.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Bell Tolls for Thee, post: 131949501, member: 1812660"] I am not making a narrative, I am giving you facts. Fact 1: COVID only ever posed a slight increased risk for the vast majority of people in the world compared to the pre-existing risks of daily life we all had no problem managing prior to the pandemic. Those to which it already posed an increased risk were also at increased risk from daily life compared to the average person. COVID was an outsized risk to this subset of people. Fact 2: The current variant poses much less of a risk to the vast majority of people in the world even if unvaccinated and untreated (not receiving dexamethasone, monoclonal antibodies, remdesivir) than the original strain. Fact 3: At this current time those who can get the vaccinations and therapeutics (assuming the therapeutics are necessary as over 98% of all COVID cases require at worst cold/flu treatment and do not require any of the therapeutics mentioned above) do not have any significant increased risk from this virus than if that same person caught influenza. Fact 4: Cloth and regular surgical masks can reduce droplets and provide some benefit of protection in short interactions. But with an aerosolized virus, these masks are useless if you are going to be in close proximity, while in doors, for more than just a few minutes. Especially in a large crowd. Fact 5: With the current free vaccinations and K95's available, the individual has all of the control regarding their risk. Getting vaxxed, wearing a K95 in all social settings, and avoiding prolonged social interactions unless absolutely necessary will provide the only significant protection from catching COVID. This is not improved or hindered AT ALL by other people around you wearing or not wearing masks. Therefore, outside of a very small subset of the population, Americans have all the tools at their disposal to decrease their current risk from COVID to even less than they would during a regular unmasked flu season REGARDLESS of what anyone around them does. Fact 6: The unfortunate subset mentioned in Fact 5 (such as the immunocompromised or those with vaccine hypersensitivities) are not new and have always existed in society. Previously they had to assess their own risk and change their behavior to avoid those risks rather than expecting everyone else to change their behavior to mitigate their risk. Thus it is hubris to expect everyone else to do what you want so you do not have to constantly wear the very uncomfortable N95 while engaging in an absolutely unnecessary entertainment activity. Especially since, as noted in fact 4, the proposed action to be taken doesn't actually prevent risk of COVID. It only provides the illusion of security. [/QUOTE]
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