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UKWildcatT

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BigBlueFanGA

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Very well stated and I agree with you. BUT....Jurich has made a lot of people a lot of money. They can find another men's basketball coach. And he'll have no problem recruiting once the sanctions are over. They'll get a guy like the guy at Wichita and be right back in business. Replacing Jurich, on the other hand, (and I'm speaking in terms of performance from all the programs, not morals) is a much tougher deal. They're already worried he's going to Texas.
Don't think I agree. A 2 time NC, HOF coach has trouble recruiting there - before this mess. And if Pitino is gone because of this mess, I think that same mess will prevent them from getting anyone of real value right now.
 

EvilMD

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Don't think I agree. A 2 time NC, HOF coach has trouble recruiting there - before this mess. And if Pitino is gone because of this mess, I think that same mess will prevent them from getting anyone of real value right now.

Pitino is a 63-year old screamer. Replace him with a 45-year old up-and-comer and you'll see recruiting trend way upward. Recruiting is what does in all the old guys. Recruits think "if you don't have the energy for me, why should I put out all my energy for you".
 
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Ramsey, Jurich and Pitino are all gone. The Board of Trustees have to clean house to restore respectability and integrity to the Institution. This has too many implications to the revenue streams to UL for the three to survive.
I see what you did there. Have to admit, made me laugh...
 

Stenchymouse

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Pitino will be easy to get rid of...

Jurich and Ramsey have already alienated him and it's just a matter of time.

The problem for UofL is that Jurich and Ramsey are the ones who created the culture there and they are absolutely tied to each other.

I'd guess that there are going to be a lot of payoffs at the lower levels for people to keep quiet about all that's going on there, and it's not all tied to athletics.

I think that it might be a little bit like the SMU deal back in the 80's.

Even when they WANTED to clean things up, they couldn't.

The corruption was much deeper than the NCAA knew and all those that were aware of it still had to be paid to keep quiet.

Someone needs to dig deeper into that multi billion dollar endowment that Ramsey has been dipping into...
 

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On a different yet similar note: The possible prosecution of Powell, isn't Prostitution a misdemeanor and not a felony? Work with a Lot of U of L fans (yes I live Louisville) that are hoping Powell is prosecuted my response to them is: with the present prison overcrowding you want to release a Murderer/Serial Killer/Embezzler/Sypher to make room for a Prostitute or just stuff another in? So without the Age of a recruit in the problem WHAT SAY YOU THE LEGAL EXPERTS THAT ROAM THIS BOARD.... PROSTITUTION FELONY OR MISDEMEANOR?
 

BigBlueFanGA

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Pitino is a 63-year old screamer. Replace him with a 45-year old up-and-comer and you'll see recruiting trend way upward. Recruiting is what does in all the old guys. Recruits think "if you don't have the energy for me, why should I put out all my energy for you".
Still don't agree. K is recruiting great, Williams was fine before the scandal started taking its toll. UL just isn't a draw on its own, in my opinion. But I do agree, to have a chance they'll have to get lucky with a young, cocky and brash coach, much like we dd with Pitino. But Pitino had the the best facilities in the country and was recruiting kids to resurrect the bluest of blue blood programs during probation over a relatively insignificant money violation, which wasn't even proven. That is a much easier situation to deal with than what a Pitino replacement would face, if he is even gone.
 

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Serious question....

With Cal being only 60 miles down the road, will that deter some coaches?

The fans will expect to keep up with UK, I think he definitely adds pressure to that job.

No way I see a Greg Marshall take a job with that unnecessary pressure.


I think Cronin is a good answer and probably the biggest name they could get.

Any assistant or non Power 5 coach would not be surprising, Archie Miller?


Of course UL fans believe they can get Phil Jackson or Coach K.

Mick Cronin has an aneurysm in his brain and has been out of commission since last season

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2015/03/18/cincinnati-mick-cronin-aneurysm/24965699/
 

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Ramsey will be replaced by Bill Clinton

Jurich will be replaced by George A Romero

Pitino will be replaced by Magic Johnson
 

CELTICAT

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WHAT SAY YOU THE LEGAL EXPERTS THAT ROAM THIS BOARD.... PROSTITUTION FELONY OR MISDEMEANOR?

Prostitution is a Class B Misdemeanor and Promoting Prostitution is a Class B felony when there is a minor less than 16 involved.
 

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Louisville Gets One-Year Ban From Postseason Play
September 23, 1998| From Staff and Wire Reports

The NCAA banned the Louisville men's basketball team from postseason play for a year Tuesday and put the school on three years' probation because of rule violations.

The two violations in the men's basketball and seven in women's volleyball programs involved extra benefits, recruiting, financial aid, institutional control and ethical conduct.

The Division I Committee on Infractions handed down other penalties as well, among them a reduction of scholarships in both sports.

The basketball program's postseason ban also will include this season's Conference USA tournament.

"We had nearly 100% agreement with the NCAA enforcement staff on all facts of the case," said John Shumaker, university president. "The NCAA's response has been tough but the sanctions are fair and I respect their conclusions."

The allegations came to light early last year and, after an investigation that produced hundreds of pages of testimony, the NCAA in April issued a formal letter of inquiry into both programs.

The university acknowledged seven of the volleyball infractions involving recruiting violations and rules prohibiting extra benefits for athletes or their families. It disagreed with the two other allegations, that it did not sufficiently educate volleyball Coach Leonid Yelin about NCAA rules and that then-assistant basketball coach Scooter McCray obtained a discounted hotel rate for the father of forward Nate Johnson.

Louisville was put on probation for two years in 1996 after an investigation unearthed questions about former basketball player Samaki Walker's use of two cars in 1995.

Because the new violation involving the basketball program occurred within five years of the starting date of the previous penalties, the committee applied its repeat-violator provisions to the case.

"Certainly, I'm deeply disappointed and saddened by the decision," Coach Denny Crum said in a statement. "Regardless of the outcome of the decision, I am ultimately responsible for our basketball program and I feel bad that it has had such a negative effect on our program and this university."

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just because we all - including and especially any UofL fans lurking - need to read this again.
 

RacerX.ksr

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Are you old enough to remember when two of Denny's players were rounded up by the police at around 2AM for doing something they shouldn't have been doing? The cops had them and had their ID's and the two of them bolted. The cops naturally rounded them up again the next day and said they couldn't believe they ran because everyone knew who they were.

The next day, when Crum was interviewed about deal, he was asked if the players had violated curfew by being out that late on a weeknight. Crum replied, "there is no curfew, these guys are old enough to know when they should be in bed." I remember making fun of that statement to some of my ul friends at the time. I don't believe he could have made a more ignorant statement or have given a better glimpse into the inner workings of that anything goes cesspool he created.
 
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Ukbrassowtipin

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You need to separate U of L from Louisville. I live in Louisville and it's a great town and beats the hell out of Lexington as a city to live in and travel to. Also there are at least 6000 or so UK fans and alumni that work for Humana in Louisville like I do. We aren't losing our jobs and Humana isn't going anywhere after the acquisition and if it was this would be about the least funny statement on Earth to me. Our state has enough blight out in Eastern KY we don't need the flagship city and the vast majority of the tax base to have problems because the largest corporation in KY leaves town. Your comment let's me know you don't understand life, get a clue.
Nope...I used to live in louisville, it's not a bad town, but yes it's a doughnut city...meaning everyone lives around dtown and it's significantly behind all the other regional cities as far as growth especially in the dtown area. Thats what im spe ifically talking about is the dtown. What ppl in louisville like to disguise as "keep lville weird"...it's really no more progressive than lexington as it doesn't have more to offer considering the size difference and that lex is a landlocked college town. As far as Humana, Aetna wants your medicare business in which you scammed the majority of seniors in KY in to forfeiting their traditional medicare to take your advantage plans that covers nothing. No reason to make personal comments because your butthurt. Aetna will probably divest humana in the coming years keeping what they want. I really hope for everyones sake no one loses their job, but some may. That's a reality of it.
 
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Bkocats

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Are you old enough to remember when two of Denny's players were rounded up by the police at around 2AM for doing something they shouldn't have been doing? The cops had them and had their ID's and the two of them bolted. The cops naturally rounded them up again the next day and said they couldn't believe they ran because everyone knew who they were.

The next day, when Crum was interviewed about deal, he was asked if the players had violated curfew by being out that late on a weeknight. Crum replied, "there is no curfew, these guys are old enough to know when they should be in bed." I remember making fun of that statement to some of my ul friends at the time. I don't believe he could have made a more ignorant statement or have given a better glimpse into the inner workings of that anything goes cesspool he created.


hmm........I vaguely remember reading/hearing something about this.
 

Bkocats

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Of course, my mind works differently I guess; but I can't see anyone even thinking about that job for a while, unless it's some young, unproven guy who wants a chance. Even so, they'd probably wait and see what, and if, any sanctions are there. Could be wrong, but don't think there is any way they'll get a high profile coach for several years, no matter who they go after.

On the other hand, there is something ...poetic? romantic? ... about being the guy who comes in, cleans up the program and brings it to as much prominence as it can get. SO who knows.
 

RacerX.ksr

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Stuff like that went on all the time back in the Crum era. I brought that up because a lot of guys posting here don't have memories that go back that far. They think the dirty stuff started with Rick. Before, Crum was Jurich and Pitino rolled into one. Crum is the reason ul didn't bolt to a bigger conference and the reason Schnellenberger left. He told them if they wanted to win a national championship in football, they had to move to a bigger conference. Crum knew that would destroy his chance at 20 wins per year and also create new demands on his program in regards to discipline and recruiting. He nixed the idea and Howard left when he realized he was a football coach at a basketball school.