Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the new NCAA head of the infraction committee...also the SEC Commissioner? I notice the NCAA did not wait for UL to start their investigation...to start theirs (like UNC).
What?????--Book alleges UofL used escort services
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yep. i read that also. got to think someone at UK knows this guy and has at least said to them "do your freaking job".
Seriously, when you've got the likes of Petrino, Pitino, Chris Jones and Hooker-Gate all at the same place same time it probably ain't just coincidence, it says something about the basic culture of the place.
i just thought of a big "What If?" what if the uncheat investigation should pick up steam with the vill debacle at the same time? this forum could suffer serious overload, not to mention my ipad index finger (ipad pecker i call it), which is already becoming arthritic from all the activity this past week+.
I'm telling you, that just isn't likely to happen. Filing a suit would allow fear attorneys to get depositions, document discovery, interrogatories and subpoena power to force people to the stand. That is not going to happen and their lack f fling a suit is neutral in all of this. On top of the issues I listed, a suit would keep the scandal in the headlines for another year and that is certainly not what UL wants. Not to mention, UL's attorneys would rack up billable hours far beyond anything they could ever recover.
we've had four years to get the facts with the unc scandal. if they get the hammer all i could say is "finally" and "lol". this ul thing broke all at once though with the book and created this monster thread. if unc gets a new thread my guess it won't be as lengthy as this one. not so quick anyway.
UL has changed the operating model from that of a traditional public university to a profit driven enterprise. As a result, the core mission has largely suffered (# 160+ in latest college rankings and dropping), while the profit side of their model has flourished, and decision authority has fallen into the hands of a few individuals who control several hundreds of millions of dollars. These people have made decisions that are, at best, questionable and out of line with the core mission. One of several examples is the Shelby Campus real estate deal. The UL Foundation formed a company called UL Development that receives state and local tax incentives to recruit research companies (e.g. start-up biotech companies) to further the school's life sciences research mission. However, instead of attracting research companies, UL Development leases the land to local companies like Steel Technology and Churchill Downs who are already located in Jefferson County. So, no net new jobs are created, no research mission is launched, and UL receives a favorable tax benefit that other land owners cannot realize.
Also, UL assigned exclusive development rights to a company that is owned by a person, who, oh by the way, serves on the UL Foundation Board, (and who recently publicly offered to pay Ramsey's bonus). So,UL uses tax dollars earmarked for research to benefit the community at large as a competitive advantage to maximize profit as a commercial real estate developer, with a few key insiders pulling all of the strings. This is just one of several examples.
Also, UL assigned exclusive development rights to a company that is owned by a person, who, oh by the way, serves on the UL Foundation Board, (and who recently publicly offered to pay Ramsey's bonus). So,UL uses tax dollars earmarked for research to benefit the community at large as a competitive advantage to maximize profit as a commercial real estate developer, with a few key insiders pulling all of the strings. This is just one of several examples.
a few things about pitino staying...he's not the type to coach where he is not really really wanted. that's his ego. he's also not the type that would want to coach a team without talent. i don't see him staying long unless it's because of money or because ul protects him. and that's not gonna happen imo because the karen thing already happened. he can defend himself but everyone with an ul logo is going to be too battered to try, once the storm finally calms. pitino is going to want out before it's over imo. any defense he gives is legacy driven and not as much about the program in its current state. if he stays to me it would actually be a change in his personality for the better. i actually think the arrogant thing would be too leave. because his program will not be very popular again at ul. and he'd have to face that every day.
really he should retire. he aged like hell after the first scandal.
Why would McGee need a criminal defense attorney if he was innocent and was planning to file a civil suit?
Just smart on someone's part, probably not his.
Unless you are stupid it is easy to see we have nothing to worry about.
Photos, texts, receipts, witnesses, blah blah blah, where is the real evi
BrianPoe:you had the typical U Of L responses...
We did absolutely nothing wrong.
And if we did, it will be McGee's fault.
Zero sanctions for the university.
We are obviously innocent.
And if we are not, so what, everybody does it...
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However you left out : Its Kentucky's Fault!!!
Photos, texts, receipts, witnesses, blah blah blah, where is the real evi
BrianPoe:you had the typical U Of L responses...
We did absolutely nothing wrong.
And if we did, it will be McGee's fault.
Zero sanctions for the university.
We are obviously innocent.
And if we are not, so what, everybody does it...
- BeasleyCard
However you left out : Its Kentucky's Fault!!!
He hired a criminal lawyer because he knows the allegations in the book are true. And his lawyer screwed up by opening his piehole calling her a "*****" and completely denying all of it. He shouldn't have said a word.
Cox is a graduate of ul law school. He may have offered his services to McGee. Lot's of publicity to be had, plus he gets to know all the juicy inside story stuff.
Louisville is a very small town like atmosphere when it comes to the legal community. Tom Wine is a ul grad as well. Nothing criminal has taken place here and the legal system will go to great lengths to prove it, to us, sort of.
Louisville is a very small town like atmosphere when it comes to the legal community. Tom Wine is a ul grad as well. Nothing criminal has taken place here and the legal system will go to great lengths to prove it, to us, sort of.
You may call it that (LOIC) but to be more accurate you would call it "Lack Of Institutional Compliance". Lack of control has never been a problem of Jurich or Pitino. Lack of Institutional Conscience could also be applied. Lack of Institutional Common Sense comes to mind. Lack of Institutional Civility is applicable.
They are not, however, guilty of Lack of Institutional Comedy, or Corruption. So they've got that going for them, which is nice.
Looks to me like maybe Cronin is trying to get out in front of whatever is dug up on UL's recruiting tactics when he was there........
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Yea, no kidding.
Yea, no kidding.
One good thing ul has going for them in all of this, they aren't nearly as important on the national scene as they think they are. This story has a little traction nationally because of the scurrilous, prurient nature of the details. I don't give two shizzes about CSX, but if they run a train off the tracks I'm going to look at the pictures.
Pat Forde "broke" the story. Where is his follow up? Where is Thamel? O'neill? If ul was as important as UK, Duke, UNC, then regularly scheduled programming would be interrupted whenever there was a sliver of new information. Forde would have written about nothing else since the story broke and nothing else until long after it was resolved.
In a story about a small town, ghetto, commuter school with the morals of an alley cat, what do you expect? People just say "don't surprise me none" and move on about their day.
Pat Forde "broke" the story. Where is his follow up? Where is Thamel? O'neill? If ul was as important as UK, Duke, UNC, then regularly scheduled programming would be interrupted whenever there was a sliver of new information. Forde would have written about nothing else since the story broke and nothing else until long after it was resolved.
In a story about a small town, ghetto, commuter school with the morals of an alley cat, what do you expect? People just say "don't surprise me none" and move on about their day.
I think their are many articles to come on this slimey story. The facts are just now leaking out and there are so many disgusting angles to this sorrid tale that the reporters want to get the facts straight and avoid being dragged into the legal quagmire that is UofL athletics.
I think so too. Louisville has shut off the flow on information at the moment because nothing they say can help them now. I may have just been adding to page count and thread views, but you can't prove it and I'm not saying.
Next Dick Cady expose:
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Alot of this falls on their local media and their lack of investigative journalism and fear of questioning turtleneck
Yep. They celebrate the revenue made off free labor. And it's actually embarrassing in the academic world to boast about money made because your supposed to be a non profit. Most schools, like texas for instance, if they see they are going to bring large sums..they invest it back into the school with new buildings, etc so their end yr statement looks as if they didn't profit as much. Not uofl they boast while also looking for ways to scam the taxpayers out of even more money
Its called the filming phase...you see, you actually have to film things before they can be released. Pretty sure youll be seeing her everywhere again pretty soon.
Outside of Winter's Bone, I hate every movie she's made. Can't stand The Hunger Games movies.