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Ugoff

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Wonder if pitino will get this lady put in prison ,Ike he did his mistress.
Just reading some UL forums, this is the way a lot of them want it to go. They had success with this strategy in the Sypher situation and they think they can turn the tables again. Unfortunately for them this one is out of the control of the corrupt local machine. The NCAA will make an example of them. Even if 2013 isn't stripped, it will be tainted.
 

BassCat75

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Just reading some UL forums, this is the way a lot of them want it to go. They had success with this strategy in the Sypher situation and they think they can turn the tables again. Unfortunately for them this one is out of the control of the corrupt local machine. The NCAA will make an example of them. Even if 2013 isn't stripped, it will be tainted.

I don't think they comprehend that putting her in jail, whether it happens or not, isn't really going to help them. It isn't going to make the NCAA go away or make the facts change. The Sypher situation was completely different. It didn't involve the University, per se, or recruits or anything else the NCAA would care about. It was just Pitino did something stupid/immoral, then she did something even more stupid by trying to extort him over it, then lying about it. At the end of the day, Pitino looked like a sleaze and she ended up in jail, but at no point was anything going to happen to UL because of it.
 

Ugoff

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I don't think they comprehend that putting her in jail, whether it happens or not, isn't really going to help them. It isn't going to make the NCAA go away or make the facts change. The Sypher situation was completely different. It didn't involve the University, per se, or recruits or anything else the NCAA would care about. It was just Pitino did something stupid/immoral, then she did something even more stupid by trying to extort him over it, then lying about it. At the end of the day, Pitino looked like a sleaze and she ended up in jail, but at no point was anything going to happen to UL because of it.
I agree with most of what you say, from an NCAA perspective but Pitino COULD and probably SHOULD have been let go over the incident. What they managed to do was turn Pitino and UL into the victim.
 

jr40831

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They're beginning to morph into the rodents they have always been.

 

westerncat

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My question is why even go there? It's like the old saying "You lay with dogs your going to get fleas". I hope UL burns like Rome did in a heap of flames.
 
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BassCat75

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I agree with most of what you say, from an NCAA perspective but Pitino COULD and probably SHOULD have been let go over the incident. What they managed to do was turn Pitino and UL into the victim.

Oh I don't disagree about Pitino. I'm not sure they managed to turn him into the victim in anyone's eyes but their own fans though. And to be totally honest, he was a victim of blackmail, even if he was stupid to put himself in that situation. If UL had any shame they probably would have fired him then. The NCAA being involved in the current situation is a whole different can of worms though.
 

Saguaro Cat

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Oh I don't disagree about Pitino. I'm not sure they managed to turn him into the victim in anyone's eyes but their own fans though. And to be totally honest, he was a victim of blackmail, even if he was stupid to put himself in that situation. If UL had any shame they probably would have fired him then. The NCAA being involved in the current situation is a whole different can of worms though.

Without the trial, we never would have gotten "15 seconds" entered into the lexicon. That prevented him from being anything more than a joke from that affair.
 

Blue Decade

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How much money do you think McGee has been offered by Jurich and Pitino this past week to keep his mouth shut? Enough that he will never have to work again.
They may try to silence him, but it doesn't matter. Too many people are involved, and the press has gotten into it now. McGee certainly isn't the only witness. McGee isn't even the only witness who can talk about the money. The NCAA already has confirmation through DaQuan Lyle and other visiting athletes that the allegations in Mistress Powell's book are true. So the violations are already confirmed. Eventually, McGee will have to talk, because the alternatives for him are worse. He will be subject to criminal indictment. The appearance of impropriety alone might be enough to force a housecleaning at UL, but there is still much more to come. There are 2 big questions left. Where did the money come from, and how many UL sports are implicated? Powell herself can probably answer both, and she isn't the only 1. In an investigation like this, you start with the little fish and give them a good reason to roll over on the big fish. Usually, cover-ups get people in more trouble than the original transgression itself. The fact that the NCAA started their investigation so fast bodes very poorly for UL, and for Jurich. Typically, ADs do not survive a media driven case like this.
 
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UNC has definitely, with the help of the NCAA, set the gold standard for what to do when your program is caught red-handed in a scandal. UofL has watched closely and learned to....
1. Never admit or deny any knowledge and/or connection to the transgression by the university brass (head coach, AD, or President).

2.Blame a rogue individual who was commiting these acts without the knowledge or blessing of the top brass. (Professor Nagarro(sp?), Andre Mcgee)

3. Break out the checkbook. Hire as many lawyers and PR firms as you can to cover up, deflect, deny, and delay any repercussions.

4. Pretend "nothing to their knowledge" has happened and hold nobody accountable for the mistakes other than the fall guy.

5. Assume that if enough time passes, the public and media at large will lose interest and move on to the next big story.

It is the same template of operations practiced by drug cartels, the mafia and street gangs to avoid prison time. The kingpins and Godfathers don't do the dirty work or pay the price for looking the other way.
 

Barleycorn

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Don't forget, Pitino used funds to give Tim syphers a raise/promotion/bonus to hush up Karen Syphers. What school would allow that?

That was stated as fact during the trial

A school fully complicit from the initial cover-up.
 

jrpross_rivals

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I go over sometimes just to see what their buzz is. I'm going to quote what I just read on their board.

V.J. King will be a star and he'll show his character by sticking with us.

He'll show his character by sticking with the school under investigation for hiring underage strippers and hookers. Okee dokee.
 

UKWildcatT

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Things we know
1) There's no way McGee was financing this

and

2) UofL is going to throw him under the bus

If I was McGee, I'd strike first and sing like a canary before they had a chance to throw me under the bus
 

brianpoe

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I do not see anyway McGee continues in the coaching profession.

I bet he never talks for two reasons: Potential criminal investigation and the slightest chance he could coach again.

Talking does he no good that I can see.
 

.S&C.

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"This problem goes beyond NCAA violations." I can see Louisville fans saying, "Yes, leave the NCAA out of it. We've got a much bigger cultural problem"

Actually it would probably go much like this

"Yes, leave the NCAA out of it, this is a nation wide problem. It's happening everywhere. It is an "Institutional" problem not "NCAA" problem."

UNC has taught all the cheaters how to split hairs and conflate issues to the point where the truth is unrecognizable.
 
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ZZBlueComet

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Pitino is a 63-year old screamer. Replace him with a 45-year old up-and-comer and you'll see recruiting trend way upward. Recruiting is what does in all the old guys. Recruits think "if you don't have the energy for me, why should I put out all my energy for you".
Are Izzo and Coach K 45? I'd say their recruiting is going ok, how old are Cal and Self?
 
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