What?????--Book alleges UofL used escort services
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For one of you LilBro lurkers to take back to your site as they discuss the "side entry door" and why all the building security means that this door would be alarmed blah blah blah.....
If you go to the books preview and you scroll down to the photo of the door...it is CLEAR to all that there is a large stone or brick sitting on the concrete stoop close to the door.
There is a reason for that. Its not to break out the window in the door (more on that in a moment) but its there to prop open the door. You prop the door open so that you can let your friends in...or prostitutes.
If the opening is monitored...and it likely is...that would send a signal back to where ever it is that they monitor doors being held open. That does not necessarily mean that there would be an alarm going off. That is all controlled by the "software" and without knowing how that door is monitored there is no way to know what would occur if it were opened. And frankly, with the brick sitting there in this picture...it happens a lot.
Also, the window on the door.....that tells me its there so you can see who is out there in order to let them in. If that were just an exit door for fire escape purposes you would not have a window because you do not care who is outside the door...there shouldn't be anyone there in the first place. The window is there for a reason.
If you go to the books preview and you scroll down to the photo of the door...it is CLEAR to all that there is a large stone or brick sitting on the concrete stoop close to the door.
There is a reason for that. Its not to break out the window in the door (more on that in a moment) but its there to prop open the door. You prop the door open so that you can let your friends in...or prostitutes.
If the opening is monitored...and it likely is...that would send a signal back to where ever it is that they monitor doors being held open. That does not necessarily mean that there would be an alarm going off. That is all controlled by the "software" and without knowing how that door is monitored there is no way to know what would occur if it were opened. And frankly, with the brick sitting there in this picture...it happens a lot.
Also, the window on the door.....that tells me its there so you can see who is out there in order to let them in. If that were just an exit door for fire escape purposes you would not have a window because you do not care who is outside the door...there shouldn't be anyone there in the first place. The window is there for a reason.
What facts? Hancock and Mara both said nothing was going on. Mega Trez said that he never saw this happen either. Rick had no knowledge. It seems there are a lot of people that have no knowledge of the situation. Lyles answer was very vague and he had is eligibility on the line so it is more than likely he said yes just so the NCAA would not take away is eligibility. Sorry, but there just aren't a lot of facts. There are statements from a very uncredible lady and that's about it. Excuse me if I have a hard time believing this woman. She's nuts.
Let's just wait until the facts come out and then we can start these types of talks. Until then, there is really no substance. This started as hookers being paid for sex and is now known to be down to women in bathing suits dancing. There is no crime or cheating in that. Go to any college campus and I am sure you can find girls in swimsuits dancing. This isn't a UofL problem, it happens nationwide and you all know this.
Who cares about a door? If you're arguing with UL fans over any of their irrational talking points, you need help. They're going to be doing/saying anything to try to make themselves think this didn't happen.
According to Matt Jones, Pitino receives two standing ovations today at a UL luncheon.
Pretty unreal. Even if the NCAA hammers them, takes wins, banners, etc, prepare yourselves for ridiculous denials from these sheeple.
Pretty unreal. Even if the NCAA hammers them, takes wins, banners, etc, prepare yourselves for ridiculous denials from these sheeple.
Have we figured out conclusively if this guy is a fake or not? I have the hardest time telling.
You have lost any ability to make any coherent statement after saying
" Yeah, Cow is a guy I'd want representing my school. Sorry ncaacardfan, I'd much rather have TWill than Cow speaking for my school. TWill didn't get two schools put on probabtion or cuss on national tv night after night. That was all Cow."
MODS get this thing outa here...I know it brings comedic value,but...
I am arguing with no one. I am simply pointing out to them that what they find to be a positive is in fact a huge negative. They are not very smart...I'm just assisting in bubble bursting.
Never suggest we UK Fans shouldn't care about THE DOORS
Its plural now. I'm not talking about the band.
I liked what came out the first door a lot better than this second one....
Yes, Craft was the guy. However, are you saying he would have been ruled ineligible if he'd played for the Vols? Also, was he alleged to have been given impermissible benefits? Pearl/UT basketball was charge with several impermissible contact violations (texts, calls, bbq, etc.) and Pearl really dug himself into a hole when he denied knowing Craft was at his house for a bbq (even after being shown a picture of Craft at his house during the bbq), but I've yet to read that anyone was alleged to have given Craft any impermissible benefits, nor have I read that Craft was given any impermissible benefits. If so, then this is not a valid comparison: in one case we're talking about ruling players at one school ineligible because of accepting impermissible benefits from someone associated with their school but not others because they didn't attend said school, in the other we're not even talking about a player getting impermissible benefits.
I think a better comparison would be Myron Piggie and the players he paid in high school. Barring technicalities, those players would've/were all been ruled ineligible for taking cash. Piggie had no affiliation with the schools those players went, and they went to different universities. If, as you say, it would only matter that the giver of the benefits was associated to the school that the player attended then none of the players would have anything to worry about. If, as you say, it's possible to remain eligible after accepting benefits which would be impermissible but are not solely because they came from someone not associated to your school then we'd see a lot more cases of players getting money from agents and remaining eligible.
No, I'm pretty sure that it doesn't matter where to the gifts come from, it only matters in value etc. Now, having boosters/people associated with your school giving them out makes the penalties for the school much more severe. A player getting gifts from an agent punishes the player (if the school played him, then it will also cost them games), a player getting gifts from boosters punishes the player AND the school. In both cases though, if a player accepts impermissible gifts then they're done (ignoring technicalities).
lol, after reading all this commentary, nobody is apparently an expert on NCAA...and that is probably because they are a bunch of hypocrites. They pick and choose who to punish and how to punish the offending school. SAD, but TRUE statement about the NCAA.
all it will take is for the NCAA to find one player guilty that played on the championship team
IMHO i believe that the NCAA knows that a lot of bad stuff went on at UL
if they are ever going to strip a title UNC and UL have given them the perfect storm
IMHO i believe that the NCAA knows that a lot of bad stuff went on at UL
if they are ever going to strip a title UNC and UL have given them the perfect storm
Could be right. Pitino was clearly upset when Meiners told him that someone at the NCAA leaked info to Gary Parrish. Pretty good odds that sometime later that very day the NCAA received an urgent and indignant message from one of its member institutions insisting any such leaks be plugged.
I hope you guys keep this up.
This is exactly the kind of attitude you need to take in order to maximize your chances of having that banner come down.
Never own up to anything. Fight, fight, fight!!!
Own up to what? Girls dancing in swim suits? Wow, they should shut the whole program down.
Keep going!Own up to what? Girls dancing in swim suits? Wow, they should shut the whole program down.
Never give up!! Never admit to nothing!!!
Are we sure Minardi Hall even exists?
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Deny deny denyOwn up to what? Girls dancing in swim suits? Wow, they should shut the whole program down.
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Pitino even said he was with Jurich recently when he was honored at a luncheon (for something he didn't deserve) and he said Jurich was "near tears" walking off the stage because he couldn't accept the award in the right frame of mind due to what's going on with the accusations. That is almost verbatim to what Pitino said. Give me a freakin' break. Jurich is a heartless egomaniac. He didn't even cry when the doctor smacked him on his *** when he was born. They just keep making me sicker. Total BS.
I just had a Tard fan argue with me until he was red in the face that the author of the book admitted that the text were recreated from her memory and that no research was done on the book. When I tried to explain that they were recreated from the forensic investigation he got even more upset and said "NO they are a BOLD face lie from a stripper".
He then brings up the SI article and how it was so egregious to write something without factual bases. I just kinda chuckled and said "when you retained Pitino after Sypher, rehired Petrino and lost a sexual discrimination lawsuit due to Jurich's actions you asked for it". His reply was that the lawsuit against Jurich was made up and he hadn't seen that. You really can't make this stuff up, head in the sand isn't a viable defense.
He then brings up the SI article and how it was so egregious to write something without factual bases. I just kinda chuckled and said "when you retained Pitino after Sypher, rehired Petrino and lost a sexual discrimination lawsuit due to Jurich's actions you asked for it". His reply was that the lawsuit against Jurich was made up and he hadn't seen that. You really can't make this stuff up, head in the sand isn't a viable defense.
girls dancing in swim suits, Provided by the University of Louisville.Own up to what? Girls dancing in swim suits? Wow, they should shut the whole program down.
Pitino himself knows something happened. That's why he said that he cannot sleep at night as he keeps wanting to know the "why?". He is not worried about the "IF". He keeps wondering WHY it happened. He might not have blessed it THEN, but he knows now that much of it is true. You don't see him making any comments now that IT DID NOT HAPPEN, do you? Do you have any UL officials making that statement? The most you will get out of them at this point is that they will find out WHAT DID HAPPENED AND WHY. They know it's true.Own up to what? Girls dancing in swim suits? Wow, they should shut the whole program down.
This is why the entire program needs to be dealt with. Everyone from the janitors to the boosters are A-OK with the behavior of their coaches and student athletes. Heck the President is probably the worst offender and it wouldn't surprise me if he ends up in a nice jail cell somewhere.
That university absolutely sickens me and I hope they get every bit of what is coming their way.
He was forced to pull his turtle-neck up to his eyes in order to dab away the crocodile tears.
The proof that they have no morals is the rehire of Petrino. Pitiful.
According to Matt Jones, Pitino receives two standing ovations today at a UL luncheon.
I for one should love to see some serious threads on this about different angles, as opposed to this train wreck thread mostly of sophmoric humor that I don't find funny. I'd like to be able to see some different thoughts without having to rumage through 100 pages of bs, mixed in with good posts.
I wouldn't mind multiple threads for this scandal. If there ever was reason to have half a page on one subject this is it. If any take this big thread anymore. Whenever hop in, you're lost because you didn't read the previous 100 pages. Please quit merging every thread into this trainwreck!
I wouldn't mind multiple threads for this scandal. If there ever was reason to have half a page on one subject this is it. If any take this big thread anymore. Whenever hop in, you're lost because you didn't read the previous 100 pages. Please quit merging every thread into this trainwreck!
I'm actually an expert on electronic access control and sold fire rated doors and hardware for 8 years. If you came up with this with no prior training, you may actually have more knowledge than 95% of the installers I've worked with over the years.
An alarmed exit could mean many things. There could be a door prop alarm, an exit alarm, a delayed egress magnet or similar to what you said, a door position switch mounted on or in the frame that simply triggers an alarm in the software. The first three are audible alarms meant to attract attention. The last, the door position switch, is just a relay telling the access control panel that the door is either open or closed. The software would have to be programmed to interpret that as something more like sending a text to security or even a simple flashing of an icon.
Or, it could just be a fire exit with panic hardware. If it's a fire rated opening, all that really means is the hardware is 3 hour fire rated and the door must have positive latching. That doesn't mean it has to be or ever will be monitored.
Furthermore, not all EAC systems are 24/7 monitored. They just aren't. If I was a betting man, there's a panic device on the inside of that door, an emergency exit sign and maybe even at one point it was monitored but after years of people propping it open, they gave up on that.
I read that thread you're referring to. It starts out with incredible amounts of stupid and only gets worse from there. If Police or Fire were notified of every propped exit, crime would be 99% more than it is today because they would be chasing false alarms all day/everyday.
The hand scanner. Bet it's made by Schlage and has Ingersol Rand on it. I've had training on that reader when I was with distribution and all it does is send a 26 bit weigand signal (the most common language of access control systems) to a panel. They have them all over UGA dorms. Which still, has not a damn thing to do with that side door. It just means they would rather not have to issue and reissue prox cards or fobs day in/day out to student that lose them and they would rather spend $1,000 on a biometric reader since kids don't usually lose their hands.
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so, you're saying you haven't seen any different angles or thoughts in these 94 pages? and you don't like sophomoric humor? try google.
You UL Retards really are dumber than a box of rocks,neither Hancock or Marra were mentioned in the book,Do you really think that Pitino,Jurich,McGee,Petrino,Willard,or any recruits that will be affected by this will tell the truth or admit guilt? The facts in the book were investigated by a detective agency before the Publisher would print a word,your crooked university is in full cover-up mode hushing everyone they can,but it's too late,it only takes one impermissible sex act to be paid for by McGee to sink your listing UL Ship.With the past history of both coaches,Jurich,Ramsey,and the numerous sex related scandals at UL all covered up by local media and swept under the rug tpo keep players on the court ,you think you dimwits would learn and care if your university was clean or not.After years of hearing the trash spewed by UL Fans toward UK,I hope they burn UL to the ground,take away the 13' Championship,and cause a death penalty.Cheating pack of scum
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