What?????--Book alleges UofL used escort services

[Dr. H Lecter]

I'm actually an expert on electronic access control and sold fire rated doors and hardware for 8 years. If you came up with this with no prior training, you may actually have more knowledge than 95% of the installers I've worked with over the years.

An alarmed exit could mean many things. There could be a door prop alarm, an exit alarm, a delayed egress magnet or similar to what you said, a door position switch mounted on or in the frame that simply triggers and alarm in the software. The first three are audible alarms meant to attract attention. The last, the door position switch, is just a relay telling the access control panel that the door is either open or closed. The software would have to be programmed to interpret that as something more like sending a text to security or even a simply flashing of an icon.

Or, it could just be a fire exit with panic hardware. If it's a fire rated opening, all that really means is the hardware is 3 hour fire rated and the door must have positive latching. That doesn't mean it has to be or ever will be monitored.

Furthermore, not all EAC systems are 24/7 monitored. They just aren't. If I was a betting man, there's a panic device on the inside of that door, an emergency exit sign and maybe even at one point it was monitored but after years of people propping it open, they gave up on that.

I read that thread you're referring to. It starts out with incredible amounts of stupid and only gets worse from there. If Police or Fire were notified of every propped exit, crime would be 99% more than it is today because they would be chasing false alarms all day/everyday.

The hand scanner. Bet it's made by Schlage and has Ingersol Rand on it. I've had training on that reader when I was with distribution and all it does is send a 26 bit weigand signal (the most common language of access control systems) to a panel. They have them all over UGA dorms. Which still, has not a damn thing to do with that side door. It just means they would rather not have to issue and reissue prox cards or fobs day in/day out to student that lose them and they would rather spend $1,000 on a biometric reader since kids don't usually lose their hands.

Great info.!!! I was basically just "sleuthing" by looking at the photo. I saw that brick sitting there and it was pretty clear to all but apparently their idiot gang that the brick was there to prop open the door. My guess is that this area is in reality.....the smokers lounge. And as you said, they just got tired of all the door-propped alarms the front desk was getting. The picture shows a truck backed up to a fence just feet from the door. Again, I would not have been shocked that this door was initially intended as some sort of delivery door or student/employee exit to a parking area. But for whatever reason that changed and they threw up a fence.

In any event, you don't put a window in a door unless you want the inside persons to see who is outside. If the door was never intended for outside access....it would have been a windowless door and clearly marked inside with signage. But you are dead on right....they basically have put a piece of black electrical tape over the blinking red light saying the door is propped because it has blinked every day since it opened.

 

[Blueworld_3.0]

Afternoon Underdogs are playing audio clips from Pitino's speech at the Tard lunch today. RP actually had the balls to insinuate that he (and Louisville) are ADVOCATES for how "women are or should be treated" everywhere. Good Lord! Do women really need that kind of an advocate??? We're talking about same University that currently employs two coaches who have committed adultery (one paid for an abortion) in addition to the allegations of the current scandal!!!
You literally cannot make this stuff up!

 

[Blueworld_3.0]

Also, Tony and Dave are really trying to stoke the fires of the Skal situation. Dredging up months old online articles to insinuate that Skal's eligibility may be in jeopardy.
They also kept calling him "Skye" Whatever, underdogs.

 

[Blueworld_3.0]

What we need is a blue dress. Or maybe a red dress......

G string outta do it.

 

[catlanta33]

Chances are no one actually monitors that software. You can program the system to allow users in and out at various times on schedules and not really have to do anything unless there's a problem or someone needs to add/delete users or make changes. Without seeing the entire door frame, hardware or interior, I'm still betting it's just an exit.

Then they start talking CCTV. I think someone mentioned 6 months of recordings. That all depends on the size of the hard drive, the recording rate and things like whether or not the cameras are on motion recording or 24/7. They could be setup to an NVR and the recordings are on the school's server elsewhere. Point is, no one would know that unless they manage the system or actually know the specs and configuration. Put 16 cameras on a DVR recording at the best quality 24/7 and you'll fill up a hard drive pretty quick. And once full, it normally records over the oldest recording.

99% chance there isn't any video evidence from their camera system for either side. It's long gone by now.

 

[Ukbrassowtipin]

What facts? Hancock and Mara both said nothing was going on. Mega Trez said that he never saw this happen either. Rick had no knowledge. It seems there are a lot of people that have no knowledge of the situation. Lyles answer was very vague and he had is eligibility on the line so it is more than likely he said yes just so the NCAA would not take away is eligibility. Sorry, but there just aren't a lot of facts. There are statements from a very uncredible lady and that's about it. Excuse me if I have a hard time believing this woman. She's nuts.

Let's just wait until the facts come out and then we can start these types of talks. Until then, there is really no substance. This started as hookers being paid for sex and is now known to be down to women in bathing suits dancing. There is no crime or cheating in that. Go to any college campus and I am sure you can find girls in swimsuits dancing. This isn't a UofL problem, it happens nationwide and you all know this.

Simple question: how does she know who Lyle is? Are you suggesting she followed re recru it ing websites? And why are you to believe hancock but dismiss others. Laughable. 2. The text messages are forensically verified. 3. If she was only in this for money, why isn't she out promoting the book, you know considering she only makes one dollar per book sale.

 

[jr40831]

Afternoon Underdogs are playing audio clips from Pitino's speech at the Tard lunch today. RP actually had the balls to insinuate that he (and Louisville) are ADVOCATES for how "women are or should be treated" everywhere. Good Lord! Do women really need that kind of an advocate??? We're talking about same University that currently employs two coaches who have committed adultery (one paid for an abortion) in addition to the allegations of the current scandal!!!
You literally cannot make this stuff up!

That's like Jeffrey Dahmer claiming to be a vegetarian

 

[WeWant9_rivals]

I'm surprised UL fans are even still talking about this, the news broke what...2 weeks ago? That's old news guys, move along..nothing to see here.

 

[merkus]

It will be hard for the NCAA to vacate the 2012 Final Four and NOT vacate the 2013 NC. That is assuming a player who received an impermissible benefit played both years. So likely both or neither get vacated.

Of course the NCAA has performed extreme mental gymnastics with rulings before, so logic doesn't necessarily apply.

Also keep in mind that the last time UL got caught cheating it was a technicality that got their post season ban rescinded. The NCAA might still hold a grudge for that.

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[Mojocat_rivals48469]

Missed this from Rick Bozich last week. Not a big deal, but I'm sure the faithful are not happy that a former national title winner has broken ranks and is saying Rick has to go:

"1. EAVES SAYS IT’S TIME FOR A CHANGE

Jerry Eaves changed frequencies Monday, returning to 1080 AM in Louisville from noon-to-1 p.m. after several weeks of hosting the 7-9 a.m. shift at 790 WKRD.

But Eaves said that he will not change his message: He does not believe that Rick Pitino can continue as the U of L basketball coach.

“The program can’t go forward with Rick Pitino’s leadership,” Eaves said. “It’s not about what he did or what he didn’t know. The program just won’t be able to move forward with one or two more years of uncertainty while trying to recruit.

“There’s no way he’ll be able to recruit with the scrutiny over our heads right now. That’s just the facts.

“I have nothing against Rick Pitino. I’m not saying this trying to be political. I’m just asking: How are we going to be able to move forward with all of this stuff out there?

“It’s hard enough for us to recruit right now. We had holes coming into this season. We’re counting on two fifth-year transfers this season.”

Eaves played at Louisville from 1978-82, starting at guard for the 1980 NCAA championship team. (That group of players and coaches gathered last Friday night to celebrate assistant coach Wade Houston’s 71st birthday. Eaves said the situation was a hot topic with some of the group.)

Eaves later worked as an assistant coach to Denny Crum from 1996-99. He also has coached as an assistant in the NBA. Eaves served as the head coach at North Carolina A&T from 2003-12.

Eaves has shared his opinion on the radio. He said reaction has been “split, about 50-50 on the air and with people I see in the grocery store.” He also said that on Monday morning the coach of a national AAU program called.

“He had the same question that a lot of people have,” Eaves said. “He wanted to know what was going on here.”

 

[BigBluuDog]

The Leader of Cardinal Nation ascended to the mountaintop today and addressed the Lil Brothers..With his usual arrogant attitude.ESCORTino stated" We will get thru this"..He blamed everyone for uavel's troubles from Matt Jones to Adolph Rupp..Let's see he also stated " to resign is cowardly"..Hmmmm I have heard that before.. Eddie Sutton said that in 1986 2 days before resigning.
Lets' research the progress of the uavel scandal:
1. Cardinal Sins :Breaking the Rules Comes out..
2. Jaqquan Lyle testifies to NCAA Investigators that "I was entertained by strippers and escorts at Louisville on my visit"
3.Texts verified by FBI Analyst that texts to Madam came from McGees Cell phone
4.Ralph Willard exits stage left to avoid the scrutiny of Media and NCAA during the scandal..How Convienent
5..Herr Pitino denies everything..
and so we wait...It will get interesting..[pfftt]

 

[nickhorvathsuxazz]

I was nailing it the other day thinking about this thread........

I'm spanking it right now...i wish my wife would leave the room before she ruins it for me w/ her disgusted looks

 

[kybassfan]

Keep going!

Never give up!! Never admit to nothing!!!

Are we sure Minardi Hall even exists?

I think Petjurino (or whatever) has got a very solid point. From what he's saying, the institution known as the University of Louisville had NO control over this situation. I repeat, this guy is claiming there was a total LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL. I think the Louisville fans should continue to stress that point. Pitino, the athletic department and the university were not in control of this situation and essentially ignored it.

I don't know how he was supposed to make it any clearer than that. I think the NCAA should take special note of this lack of institutional control.


HEY GUYS! There's fish in this barrel over here.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

 

[Jazzycat]

Hustling underage daughters to players and their fathers is beyond shameful....will the NCAA have the guts to shut down this program? Pitino cannot escape this...if he does, this culture is just wrong.

 

[KWilt43atbuzz]

I give Pitino 15 more seconds as UL coach before he resigns.

 

[DwayneMeighan]

I for one should love to see some serious threads on this about different angles, as opposed to this train wreck thread mostly of sophmoric humor that I don't find funny. I'd like to be able to see some different thoughts without having to rumage through 100 pages of bs, mixed in with good posts.

I'm not really into all of the humor of this thread myself, but if you're not grown enough to just ignore it and read the stuff within the thread that interest you, then that's a you problem.

I wouldn't mind multiple threads for this scandal. If there ever was reason to have half a page on one subject this is it. If any take this big thread anymore. Whenever hop in, you're lost because you didn't read the previous 100 pages. Please quit merging every thread into this trainwreck!

I couldn't disagree more with this. Not sure now many message board you frequent, but those are the worst kind of message boards, and is sometimes one of the negatives of this board. People should not be allowed to start a new, random thread for every opinion that pops into their head, when there is already a thread on that very same subject.

This board used to allow that to go on way too much, and that's why half the time you would have 5-10 threads that are all on the subject, talking about the same exact things. That is both a waste of other good threads (by pushing them off the first page) and annoying. The mods merging those threads are actually doing their job because that is how a message board is supposed to be run.

If UofL scandal threads weren't being merged to this thread, then the first 3 pages of threads would be nothing but that, and every other good thread about UK that was worth reading would get pushed to page 4 and lost in the shuffle, which is absolutely unacceptable. I praise the mods for merging all scandal based threads to this one and refusing to allow this subject to dominate this message board.

 

[Fannin12]

That place is a sickening Cult. They lie so much I honestly think they believe what they speak.

 

[BigBlueBrock_rivals381185]

Own up to what? Girls dancing in swim suits? Wow, they should shut the whole program down.

Are you really this stupid or are you just feigning obtuse for the sake of trolling? The bigger issue, as far as the NCAA is concerned and the one Louisville should be worried about, is how the "strippers" were compensated. Strippers and street whores don't just show up for free. Someone paid them and all signs point to that someone being Andre McGee, Director of Basketball Operations. If the NCAA makes the connection between him and the "strippers," then you've got a serious infractions case. It doesn't matter if it was just girls dancing in bikinis or full blown hooker orgies.

 

[Pewee Cat]

Own up to what? Girls dancing in swim suits? Wow, they should shut the whole program down.

Please don't ban this moron, nobody is this stupid.

 

[Blue Bigfoot]

What facts? Hancock and Mara both said nothing was going on. Mega Trez said that he never saw this happen either. Rick had no knowledge. It seems there are a lot of people that have no knowledge of the situation. Lyles answer was very vague and he had is eligibility on the line so it is more than likely he said yes just so the NCAA would not take away is eligibility. Sorry, but there just aren't a lot of facts. There are statements from a very uncredible lady and that's about it. Excuse me if I have a hard time believing this woman. She's nuts.

Let's just wait until the facts come out and then we can start these types of talks. Until then, there is really no substance. This started as hookers being paid for sex and is now known to be down to women in bathing suits dancing. There is no crime or cheating in that. Go to any college campus and I am sure you can find girls in swimsuits dancing. This isn't a UofL problem, it happens nationwide and you all know this.

 

[lacocat]

The Door loves this thread

 

[Bodvar Bjarki]

RP actually had the balls to insinuate that he (and Louisville) are ADVOCATES for how "women are or should be treated" everywhere.

Knock 'em up, ship them off to have an abortion on your dime, then pawn them off on your buddies so your wife doesn't find out. Then sic the local lackey DA on them if they say a word about it. Then stand back and top it all off with a few hooker parties to celebrate. That's pretty much in line with the NOW manifesto, isn't it?

 

[MegaBlue05]

The naivety in the UL fanbase is sad and comical.

Spin. Spin. Spin.

It's all those ***** mongers know how to do.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

This is for all those UL fan's in denial..........

 

[MethodUK]

Hey Petjurino! If your so confident nothing went on and nothing will happen then put your $$ where your mouth is. Bet you a $1,000 cash ramifications will occur over the scandal. We can meet up at Gene Snyder and Old Henry Rd to settle up. Bet?

 

[LadyCaytIL]

if you guys are going to actually bet.... do paypal. and go through a 3rd source that both trust.

 

[lkc1021]

How long did they last? /softball

I heard they lasted a total of 15 seconds. Seems about par for Pitino.

 

[BigBluuDog]

Pitino came out swinging.but NOT denying that crimes were committed..Gulp...He introduced "His One and Done players" a Cleveland State Transfer and one from Drexel..[laughing][laughing][laughing][smoke]
He is such a sad individual and the mindless Lil Brothers eat it up with a spoon..

 

[Xception]

Pie for everybody

 

[lacocat]

Hey Petjurino! If your so confident nothing went on and nothing will happen then put your $$ where your mouth is. Bet you a $1,000 cash ramifications will occur over the scandal. We can meet up at Gene Snyder and Old Henry Rd to settle up. Bet?

Would other forms of payment be an option from the UL fan?

 

[BlueWorldOrder74]

I work with a multitude of Louusville fans on a weekly basis. While most Louisville fans are idiots, the majority I work with are generally intelligent folk; or as intelligent as can be considering their poor decision making in fanhood (although most were born into into as most UK fans were; so I guess I can't blame them).

I had two of them today tell me, with real sincerity, that they truly believe 100% of all that has been reported is bogus. All made up by a money hungry *****. Nothing is even possibly true. They went on to say that Louisville is the class of the ACC; they run one of the most admirable programs in the country; and Pitino is an honest, caring man who would take a bullet for his players and assistants.

Can this be possible? This is what I asked myself? Would I repeat such moronic statements if his were UK and the tables were turned? I think not. Then I remembered listening to the Jim Jones tapes and the end of his Peoples Temple. It is possible to brainwash an entire group of people to be void of rational thought. I hope and pray this never happens to my children. Neither rooting for UL or following a lunatic into eternity.

 

[Bodvar Bjarki]

It's called denial.

 

[ZakkW]

It needs to be said and most, if not all, will agree that the Univ of Louisville athletic dept is the most morally bankrupt cesspool in all of college sports; the university itself is among the most corrupt instititions of higher learning in the country, in fact it is one of the most corrupt institutions of any sort.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

So a money hungry ***** is going to turn around and pay 2 recruits and 2 former players to confirm parts of her story??? Sure UL fans... Sure

 

[lacocat]

''We're going to have some tough times - we've had some tough times before - but we're going to rebuild. And when we rebuild, it's going to be a program that wins, because that's the Kentucky tradition.'' C.M Newton on being brought in as UK athletic director after UK was handed 3 years probation in 89.

Ironically enough the coach CM brought in to restore UK was one Rick Pitino. I think Rick should take a hard look in the mirror and take a hint from his former SEC brethren coach Steve Spurrier who knew it was time to step down.

 

[Ugoff]

It's ironic that Pitino's career in the bluegrass state will be bookended by resurrecting one progam and burning another to the ground.

 

[jr40831]

Petjurino may not be much of a fan of any team, he's just trying to agitate. The stupidity is too conspicuous. I think he's just some slob with nothing to do, or an adolescent.

 

[TopCatCal]

The NCAA has issued a severe storm warning for the University of Louisville mens basketball program. Those in the affected area can expect: Banners to be torn down, wins to be blown away & scholarships to be lost in the storm.... So, get ready UL , its on the way!

 

[Bodvar Bjarki]

It's ironic that Pitino's career in the bluegrass state will be bookended by resurrecting one program and burning another to the ground.

Excellent observation. I like that.