What did Slive do to keep MSU out of the NCAA??

[mstateglfr]

Im just ignorant to the process i guess? Or perhaps an idealist?

Are you guys seriously suggesting he convinced the selection committee to add UF instead of us?

Even though he had to leave the entire room when an SEC school was discussed last year when he was the head of the committee, he managed to convince them to leave MSU out this season when he wasnt the head of the selection committee?

 

[BulldogBlitz]

he rose his luxury box.... looked out over the sea of blue...

pointed to the mSu bench... and gave the thumbs down sign -- that was sent via video feed for the ref to "review" when he was "reviewing" the cousins tip in at the buzzer. there was no actual review of the play, just a judgment passed down from above.

 

[mstateglfr]

Ha, well i have a feeling this will be the best actual answer i get. Creative.

To suggest a guy that had nothing to do with the selection influenced a group of grown professionals that are all powerful in their own right and convinced them to take one team over another is flat out nuts.
People really think the selection committee is not only that easily influenced, but that easily persuaded??? Seriously?

Last season when he was the head of the committee, he wasnt even allowed to be in the room when SEC teams were discussed. Yet this year he told everyone to pick one team over another and they listened even though they had no reason to? What sort of power and influence do you think he has over them?

 

[skydawg1]

What sort of power and influence do you think he has over them?

Hell, I dunno....he's the commish of the most powerful league in college athletics?

 

[mstateglfr]

What sort of power and influence do you think he has over them?

Hell, I dunno....he's the commish of the most powerful league in college athletics?

So because he is the head of a powerful conference he can snap his finger and literally picks what teams are in and out of the NCAA Tournament? Damn thats absurd.

He was the head of the selection committee last season AND HE HAD TO LEAVE THE ROOM WHEN SEC TEAMS WERE BEING DISCUSSED. Where was he last season when he was the head of the committee and all 3 SEC teams got low seeds? Id think if he had such great influence, getting them better seeds orbetter regions would have been nothing at all to do. After all, he is the commish of the most powerful league in college athletics.

 

[snoopdog]

I would be very surprised if Conference commissioners were in the dark on the selection process. The comment about being sure to take care of the teams that helped keep the SEC up while UK was down seems to indicate Slive can lobby for his teams in some form or fashion. Again, I don't know how it works, and could be totally wrong, but I would think Slive is not in the dark, and his opinionsare requested in some cases.

 

[Coach34]

was tell Byrne we didnt make the Tourney. We had to have known we werent making it for us to get on the plane heading home before the selection show came on.

 

[mstateglfr]

<span class="post-title">I don't know how the process works, but...</span>

Andhere is where your view runs head on into avat of ****. You have no idea, thanks for leading with that.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

Ha, well i have a feeling this will be the best actual answer i get. Creative.

To suggest a guy that had nothing to do with the selection influenced a group of grown professionals that are all powerful in their own right and convinced them to take one team over another is flat out nuts.
People really think the selection committee is not only that easily influenced, but that easily persuaded??? Seriously?

Last season when he was the head of the committee, he wasnt even allowed to be in the room when SEC teams were discussed. Yet this year he told everyone to pick one team over another and they listened even though they had no reason to? What sort of power and influence do you think he has over them?

nah...this assumes the "grown professionals" have integrity. the good ole boy network has been around since the beginning of time. i'm more inclined to believe it is what he didn't do, any sort of lobbying.

 

[jakldawg]

or some other completely dickish way
Slive: "Here's a riddle. What's maroon and white, and season's all over?"
Byrne: "What? This doesn't even make any..."
Slive: "Okay, what has ten legs and STILL can't dance? Give up?..."
Byrne: "Aw, hell. Okay, warm up the plane. This isn't over, old man."
Slive: "Wanna bet? Donnovan gave me <span style="font-style: italic;">real</span> "candid" Erin Andrews pics. Good luck finding any of those, sucker!!!"

 

[snoopdog]

and I never claimed to. However I do have an opinion. And my opinion is that in the least Slive publically favored one school over another. And, to a further extent, he could very easily have given his opinions to whomever asked them, perhaps even before they were asked. I think it is naive to believe that Slive is clueless as to the process going on. Furthermore, if I were on a selection committee, and had a question as to the worthiness of two member schools, I might go to a commissioner for his opinion.
You've got this all wrong. I'm not the one who is leading some conspiracy charge against Slive. There were many who felt the same way. But I do believe, whether I know for a fact or not, that Slive wanted Florida in. I also believe that you or anybody else , just like me, doesn't know whether Slive can influence how a committee ranks two same conference members.
Plain and simple, I believe that Mike Slive, based on his comments and his position, very easily could lobby for one member school over another.

 

[mstateglfr]

You've got this all wrong. I'm not the one who is leading some conspiracy charge against Slive. There were many who felt the same way.

I know there are many who feel the way you feel. So many so that have posted the view that Slive stole the bid from us, that i decided to start a thread asking what he did to keep us out.

All ive seen so far is a suggestion that since he has power, he told a group that he is no part of to pick one SEC team over another. No explanation as to why they listened, but that isnt important in such a theory.
Oh, and there is a view that he didnt champion for us, so we were left out. Sure, i can at least buy that. But that is not at all close to the **** that people have accused him of.

 

[snoopdog]

after watching the interview Friday that he was biased in his comments. I posted such on Friday's message board. Then Sunday pops up and, boom, Florida is a 10 seed (even though pretty much nobody was talking about them) and we are out. So that is why I formed my opinions. I have no idea whether he could influence a committee, but I wouldn't doubt it, when it concerns two SEC schools going for one slot. Not saying he was trying to screw State as much as he felt Florida was more deserving. That part was obvouis to me. It really doesn't matter at this point, I guess. If I could find the interview somewhere, I would post it so you could see why I formed the opinion I did.

 

[skydawg1]

Oh, and there is a view that he didnt champion for us, so we were left
out. Sure, i can at least buy that. But that is not at all close to
the **** that people have accused him of.

That is exactly what Slive DIDN'T do on TV the other day...campaign for us. That is it. There is your answer. He did not speak positively on MSU's chances of being worthy of making the NCAA's. That's why some are miffed at him.

Sorry you couldn't figure that out for yourself. Pick another wild sheep hunt. Damn...

 

[HippyDawg]

Do you also believe in Santa Claus? <div>
</div><div>There is a reason Alabama had not a single holding penalty called on them the last 6 games of the season. I am guessing you think it is because they have superior offensive linemen. There is a reason why when MSU played Tennessee for the SEC Championship in the 90's that the dogs were flagged something like 14 times. </div><div>
</div><div>You accept that people are willing to lie cheat and steal for $140 dollars by robbing a liquor store but think it is crazy to believe with millions on the line some funny business or favoritism will not come into play? </div>

 

[BulldogBlitz]

<div></div><div>You accept that people are willing to lie cheat and steal for $140 dollars by robbing a liquor store but think it is crazy to believe with millions on the line some funny business or favoritism will not come into play? </div>

i run into that same thing at work when it is time for performance bonuses (when we were getting them).