What did you guys expect?

[vkj91]

First, I'd like to welcome back all the posters who disappeared late in the Indiana game who have returned tonight...we missed you.
Second, This is NOT A PRO FLOOD or excuse thread.
Seriously though, what were you expecting? Since I asked, I'll tell you my goal was a two score game with 7 minutes to go in the 3rd.
As soon as JT was announced as the starter the route was on. PSU has a very good D and a 5 million dollar a year coach and they looked no better.
Tonight was Urban's 20th straight win. It's the 4th time he has won 20 in a row in his career. No other coach EVER has done that more than twice.
I know many of you guys think we should be duking it out with OSU and Meyer year two in the B1G and that's cute but it's silly. I'll add, we will probably never consistently compete with them and that's no a defeatist attitude.
Keep Flood...fire Flood...I don't care either way but I think many of you guys need to re check your expectation levels at this point.

 

[OC Knight]

I agree with you, we are a 5-7 to 7-5 kind of program right now and will be for the foreseeable future. I don't like it but that's what we are. We will play some good teams tough every now and then but we don't have the depth and overall talent to hang with the real good programs (I.e. Top twenty programs). This is a realist point of view. I know think kind of thinking on this board gets you labeled a negatiod. I support this program and will continue to do so as we try and get better. When the money comes I hope we get a more talented coach who can recruit the better players because that's the only way to get out of the level we are at right now.

 

[Blitz8RU]

Honestly, I expected a closer game. Something like 56-34 OSU. I expected the defense to be about what they were (actually they were slightly better at times than I expected). I thought the offense would execute better particularly the passing game. Very disappointing. Team looked like they were playing hard even though coaching and execution were sub par.

 

[vkj91]

Honestly, I expected a closer game. Something like 56-34 OSU. I expected the defense to be about what they were (actually they were slightly better at times than I expected). I thought the offense would execute better particularly the passing game. Very disappointing. Team looked like they were playing hard even though coaching and execution were sub par.

I would agree with this. Few things that could have gotten us in your predicted score but came up empty in that first drive, without the ankle does Caroo get to that ball in the endzone, and the bomb to Miller and subsequent Td killed us. 14-0 at half is way better than 21-0.

 

[theRU]

i expected us to at least look like a football team..not ballerinas.

49-7? GTFO... I could live with 72-35

 

[vkj91]

i expected us to at least look like a football team..not ballerinas.

49-7? GTFO... I could live with 72-35

You should probably go to bed

 

[KJRU]

First, I'd like to welcome back all the posters who disappeared late in the Indiana game who have returned tonight...we missed you.
Second, This is NOT A PRO FLOOD or excuse thread.
Seriously though, what were you expecting? Since I asked, I'll tell you my goal was a two score game with 7 minutes to go in the 3rd.
As soon as JT was announced as the starter the route was on. PSU has a very good D and a 5 million dollar a year coach and they looked no better.
Tonight was Urban's 20th straight win. It's the 4th time he has won 20 in a row in his career. No other coach EVER has done that more than twice.
I know many of you guys think we should be duking it out with OSU and Meyer year two in the B1G and that's cute but it's silly. I'll add, we will probably never consistently compete with them and that's no a defeatist attitude.
Keep Flood...fire Flood...I don't care either way but I think many of you guys need to re check your expectation levels at this point.

You should probably go to bed...there were lots of people that weren't impressed with the Indiana win, they got shouted down, cussed out, and even had posts edited. There were posters that said this game would be a blow out, they were told that they weren't true fans and to find a new team to root for.

This is Flood's 4th year and we are getting worse results than we were getting in year one...THIS IS NOT PROGRESS.

 

[vkj91]

You should probably go to bed...there were lots of people that weren't impressed with the Indiana win, they got shouted down, cussed out, and even had posts edited. There were posters that said this game would be a blow out, they were told that they weren't true fans and to find a new team to root for.

This is Flood's 4th year and we are getting worse results than we were getting in year one...THIS IS NOT PROGRESS.

In 2009 Schiano lost to Cincinnati 47-15. What was that year 8? 9? Do you think that team was as good as the OSU team we played tonight? Were you screaming from the rooftops to fire him?

 

[TheodoreGinnJr]

I don't think Ohio State's defense was given enough credit. It is a VERY good unit, especially against the pass

 

[vkj91]

I don't think Ohio State's defense was given enough credit. It is a VERY good unit, especially against the pass

One of best in the country.

 

[KJRU]

In 2009 Schiano lost to Cincinnati 47-15. What was that year 8? 9? Do you think that team was as good as the OSU team we played tonight? Were you screaming from the rooftops to fire him?

What does that have to do with all of Flood's failures? Why are you bringing up a random Schiano loss after another horrific Flood loss?

Oh I get it, because Schiano lost to Cincinnati in 2009 it's ok for Flood to get blownout repeatedly over the past 4 years, got it.

 

[Caliknight]

This was about what I expected. OSU is next level in every way. Closing in on 30 straight conference wins, defending national champions and poised to repeat. It's going to take major development at every level of the program to be truly competitive with them. I'm not sure Rutgers will actually ever have the stomach for that. We are in the same conference, but they are in a different league. Few schools are their peer.

 

[RU5781]

I wanted to not be embarrassed on national TV.
That didn't happen. Another epic failure by Flood and staff.

 

[Ridge 22]

We didn't compete on any level. Certainly didn't expect to win, but last night was not something that people should be rationalizing.

 

[TheRacRU]

To be honest, I fully expected to get blown out and embarrassed.

 

[rutino]

I had hoped for a tight competitive game. I expected a loss by a three or four score deficit. I don't think anyone should be rationalizing this loss.

 

[RUTrack94]

Losing by 10 at halftime, and by 28 at the end

 

[KnightFan]

We didn't compete on any level. Certainly didn't expect to win, but last night was not something that people should be rationalizing.

There is no pride in getting blown out

We had our asses kicked in every phase of the game and were mocked by the announcers on a nationally televised Saturday night game

If you were a recruit watching that bloodbath, would you be sitting there going "Jersey Strong, I want to rep my home state?"

I doubt it

This game was a failure through and through and exposed how pitiful we are on a national stage.. The fact that Ohio State beats up others is of no comfort to me and little more that loser speak

Urban Meyer wasn't the issue, Ohio State wasn't the issue. The issue is that we aren't very good, not getting better, and that ain't changing anytime soon

We were never going to win, but we shouldn't have gotten blown out of our own stadium either

 

[bac2therac]

I was not surprised by last night. The difference in recruiting, coaching, and player development is enormous. What I am surprised about was the amount of our fanbase thinking we would hold our own in this game. The divide is great and its not closing. Reality is we have a coach who will go 5-7 or 6-6 or 7-5 every year. I dont expect anything other than mediocrity. I do expect a coach to not punt on 4thand 2 that was shameful

 

[Saint Puppy]

Urban Meyer wasn't the issue, Ohio State wasn't the issue. The issue is that we aren't very good, not getting better, and that ain't changing anytime soon

We were never going to win, but we shouldn't have gotten blown out of our own stadium either

Disagree......Ohio State was definitely a bit of an issue yesterday. They are the #1 team in the country and looked every bit of it yesterday - great D and a dominant offense with Barret. Yes, we had some major holes, but Ohio State is damn good.

 

[SirScarlet]

But Al said we would CRUSH them!?!?!

 

[RUTBAY]

Are we the worst team in the B1G? Because it sure looked like it last night. I expected us to at least put up a Maryland type performance. I know it was Barret vs Jones but our offense was not playing against Barret. There is no way we should be looking toward our very last possession to stave off a shutout.

 

[vkj91]

What does that have to do with all of Flood's failures? Why are you bringing up a random Schiano loss after another horrific Flood loss?

Oh I get it, because Schiano lost to Cincinnati in 2009 it's ok for Flood to get blownout repeatedly over the past 4 years, got it.

No it's not

What does that have to do with all of Flood's failures? Why are you bringing up a random Schiano loss after another horrific Flood loss?

Oh I get it, because Schiano lost to Cincinnati in 2009 it's ok for Flood to get blownout repeatedly over the past 4 years, got it.

seriously? Why did I bring it up? You made a reference to year 4 and blowouts but ignore it happening in year 8 with Schiano

 

[vkj91]

Are we the worst team in the B1G? Because it sure looked like it last night. I expected us to at least put up a Maryland type performance. I know it was Barret vs Jones but our offense was not playing against Barret. There is no way we should be looking toward our very last possession to stave off a shutout.

Not even close to the worst team in the B1G. OSU beat PSU just as bad last Saturday and will do it next week as well.

 

[bac2therac]

Schiano does not belong in this thread but Flood defenders keep bringing up saying look see he did it too

 

[rufeelinit]

The result was only slightly worse than my realistic expectations since I have not seen anything that suggests we are ready to play close to their level. I was away for Michigan State but I am assuming that was more of an outlier performance than the norm. We will see how the next few weeks go. Whether people expected this or not does not make it any easier to sit through and listen to OH IO all night. We are not a very good team and the trend line continues to be negative in my opinion. The pro and anti Flood camps will continue to exchange points week to week but in my opinion I see no reason to be confident that we will be a top three team in our division no less the conference if he continues leading this program. Some seem to be OK with not reaching that level and are more tolerant with 7-6 ceilings but I am not.

 

[RUTBAY]

Not even close to the worst team in the B1G. OSU beat PSU just as bad last Saturday and will do it next week as well.

I don't think we are the worst team either but I do think we put up the worst offensive performance against OSU this year minus Hawaii. OSU vs PSU game was much more competitive as was Indiana. To say that we should "expect" a game like last night vs "accept" a game last night are two different things. For some people they are the same.

I am neither an apologist nor a naysayer I am just a fan that feels like we shouldn't have to worry about being a laughing stock on a national broadcast. Look at our kicking situation. If we are able to make what amounts to an XP of a field goal let alone actual XPs that would go part of the way. Is that too much to ask? Don't underestimate the result of that play on the tenor of the rest of the game for the fans in the stadium. Given the opponent that took a lot of air out of the crowd.

 

[rufeelinit]

I don't think we are the worst team either but I do think we put up the worst offensive performance against OSU this year minus Hawaii. OSU vs PSU game was much more competitive as was Indiana. To say that we should "expect" a game like last night vs "accept" a game last night are two different things. For some people they are the same.

I am neither an apologist nor a naysayer I am just a fan that feels like we shouldn't have to worry about being a laughing stock on a national broadcast. Look at our kicking situation. If we are able to make what amounts to an XP of a field goal let alone actual XPs that would go part of the way. Is that too much to ask? Don't underestimate the result of that play on the tenor of the rest of the game for the fans in the stadium. Given the opponent that took a lot of air out of the crowd.

We may have put up the worst offensive performance against Penn State as well. We were essentially done in both games by halftime.

 

[saran]

Are we the worst team in the B1G? Because it sure looked like it last night. I expected us to at least put up a Maryland type performance. I know it was Barret vs Jones but our offense was not playing against Barret. There is no way we should be looking toward our very last possession to stave off a shutout.

Well RU's best player began the game hurt and left early. Carroo's 3 TDs are the main reason RU hung with Michigan St. Carroo came out for MSU after a lengthy absence and probably surprised MSU. I don't think OSU was going to be surprised but RU would probably have had more of a game and suffered a beating without being ragdolled on national TV where even the announcers stopped following the game, and talked about the cannon and league standings for 4th quarter. The problem now is how many Carroos and season tickets are in RU's future? The "narrative" arcing through RU football now is not an attractive one to recruits. I think expecting 5-7 season stability in future is probably optimistic if a real B1G coaching staff and recruits don't manifest. Even on TV RU looked small compared to OSU. RU needs massive upgrading in the trenches. 2 star OL with 50 pounds of baby fat and offers from Colgate and Monmouth cant hang with the OSUs.

 

[RUchip]

I love the "what did you expect posts". They make total sense. Especially when you don't care if Flood is gone or not. Keep rooting for .500

 

[We Are RU]

I agree with you, we are a 5-7 to 7-5 kind of program right now and will be for the foreseeable future. I don't like it but that's what we are. We will play some good teams tough every now and then but we don't have the depth and overall talent to hang with the real good programs (I.e. Top twenty programs). This is a realist point of view. I know think kind of thinking on this board gets you labeled a negatiod. I support this program and will continue to do so as we try and get better. When the money comes I hope we get a more talented coach who can recruit the better players because that's the only way to get out of the level we are at right now.

I'd say that on any given Saturday we can hang with any team except for the top 5 (look at what we did with Michigan St.). The Ohio St. and Alabamas of the world are at another level.

 

[ArminRU]

You have to ask yourself, is Flood the guy that will take us to a B1G championship. The answer is no. The sooner we make the change, the better.

 

[Rufaninga]

I expected the lopsided loss. I hoped each year we would close the gap and compete more. That is not the case this year. Could be loss of secondary, could be not having the right coach.

 

[Jim_from_RU]

I love the "what did you expect posts". They make total sense. Especially when you don't care if Flood is gone or not. Keep rooting for .500

That's not the point. It's that people thinking we could keep up with OSU that was unrealistic.

 

[RUchip]

That's not the point. It's that people thinking we could keep up with OSU that was unrealistic.

I get that. However this is posted every week regardless who we play. It's pathetic. The same thing as posted after WSU

 

[RUaMoose_rivals]

Honestly, I expected a closer game. Something like 56-34 OSU. I expected the defense to be about what they were (actually they were slightly better at times than I expected). I thought the offense would execute better particularly the passing game. Very disappointing. Team looked like they were playing hard even though coaching and execution were sub par.

You expected us to put up 34 against the #1 team and defending NC ?Like OP said, time for some to recalibrate their expectations

 

[Wutevah]

Not even close to the worst team in the B1G. OSU beat PSU just as bad last Saturday and will do it next week as well.

Bye week for Osu next week . Anyway,

1. Not enamored with out offensive philosophy it requires having talent that's equal and above other teams .... it doesn't work for the league we are in, as we were are going to be outrecruited by 4 other teams in our division.
2. This beatdown was 100% expected ... as people sold/gave away their tickets for a reason, people being shocked that OSU traveled so well was because alot of fans were realistic about our chances.
3. I think Flood survives this year due to so many key marquee programs opening up this year, next year he's definitely on the hottest of hots seats imho.

 

[BoogieKnight]

That's not the point. It's that people thinking we could keep up with OSU that was unrealistic.

So the Indiana Hoosier FOOTBALL team can hang with Ohio State for 4 quarters...two years in a row actually...but we should be OK with not even showing a pulse in our own building. Got it.

 

[Plum Street]

I didn't expect a win. But I expected this team to fight . At least show they cared

 

[Scarlet Shack]

Vkj

Here is the thing...and I completely hear what you are saying.

However

What on earth was out gameplan to try to win this game? Seriously ? We ran how many plays with one and no wide receivers. We were going to over power ohio state at the line of scrimmage?

We had a gameplan to win against top 5 Michigan state. We had no gameplan last night to win. And I was one here hyping the need to keep control of the game tempo last night to have a chance

On defense? I had no idea on what we were doing on our scheme. And i watch for it

Our players and fans deserve a better coaching effort that what we had last night

I don't think it would have made a difference in the score...but at least look like we are going to make the other
Coach to beat us

Sitting back most on the night on defense and wait for them to run over us and then have the arrogance to try to run over them on offense to me screams of let's keep the score as close as possible