Holgs pretty much said he didn't think he could recruit to win at WVU, so I think he would have left no matter what. Neal was just a bad hire, problem is extending him for no reason but fear he'd do well and leave. Shayne is too stupid to realize if he did well and a blue blood wanted him....they'd pay any buyout.
I think WVU and Shane Lyons really believe in Neal Brown. I don’t think it’s anything more than that with the buyout. Maybe this year will change that? I don’t know. However, IMO, year 4 should show improvement and so far it has not. I have a feeling next year will be the deciding fate for Brown. I don’t see him fired this year unless he goes 4-8 or worse. I think an ultimatum will be given for next year.
4-8 isn't a lock looking at the schedule. Losing to Kansas makes that a tough road, especially as it was a home game. Towson, Kansas State, and TCU are the remaining winnable home games....who can we even beat on the road to get to 4?
Outside of Towson, they’ve played the easiest part of the schedule already. You are right. It’s no lock at all.
VT is the one that could save his job. Win that and get to 5 wins total somehow. Otherwise how does the Admin sell the climb?
I think he’s trying to say it would give another year to determine if Brown is fired or improves.
Didn't say I liked it, but that's the way our administration will likely handle it. Maybe we'll get another rifle trophy instead.
When you look at Holgorsen's 8 years at wvu the majority of his signature wins came early in his tenure. If you divide it down the middle 1st four years vs last four years you can see some disturbing trends. In Holgorsen's last 4 seasons he only beat 1 team that finished the year ranked in the top 25 Which was the Texas win in 2018. When the years went by and the team had more and more of His finger prints on it the less success they actually had. He did have the 10 win season in 2016 but there weren't any marquee wins. It ended with a beat down at the hands of an unranked Miami team. I can see why there are People who want to Bring Back Rich. I can't understand why anyone would want Holgorsen Back. He blew a ton of games like you mentioned in an earlier post, In 2018 when he choked against Okie state then losing To Oklahoma and getting embarrassed in a bowl game pretty much summed up what his Wvu Tenure was like.
I don't know if RR is the answer and I get trying NB as he was more likely to stick around being from the region, but Holgs would both never come back and only came as a stepping stone. At this point I just want a coach who brings attitude and discipline. It seems HCNB has brought neither.
Maybe better stated as “…Losing at home to the FORMERLY worst team in… conference.” Play like they did against us and they will several conference games this year.
I am not saying that RR the man is the answer but I do agree with the posters who think his philosophy is. Wvu is the only school that I can think of that has both run the spread option and Air Raid. We had much better success when we ran a spread option type of an offense. On Saturday we saw what a well run spread option offense can be. The Kansas offense has the ability to run and Pass. It has the ability to control tempo in ways that the Air Raid offenses don't. It also has a ton of misdirection plays and plays that have deception. If you go back to last season their offense has been keeping Defenses off balance. The spread option offense also doesn't require as much NFL talent. The problem with the Air Raid is you have to have A QB that can make all the throws for it to be effective. We have that In Daniels this year but were not going to get that every year. There is also very little deception in the air raid. Its just like a standard Pro set with 3+ WR. Everyone knows what you're going to do and the teams that have 4 DL that can get pressure on the QB and corners that cover receivers like syrup on ice cream have no problem stopping it. I saw a post on one of the other boards the guy mentioned that no team running an Air Raid offense has ever won a National Championship. Urban Meyer won 3 National Championships running a spread option. You have to remember that not all Air Raids or Spread options are the same and what's best for one school might not be what's best for the other. In Wvu's case we have had very little success winning big games with the Air Raid while the Spread option delivered us are greatest wins.
I think People are underestimating Kansas. They showed signs of getting better at the end of last season. I think they will finish middle of the pack in the Big 12 this year maybe better with a little luck
I may agree with your comment about Lyons sabotaging Holgs recruiting ..... BUT from the beginning his recruiting classes were mediocre. And he walked away from every WV kid. That's sad when he left 4* players sign with other P5 schools.
That was tough to swallow, even just because it's a matter of pride for the kids and for us.
Love this song. One of Hall & Oates best.
Little league.
Holgorsen's recruiting was right in line with WVUs historical recruiting rankings and were not worse than Browns any way you shake it. He put several Mountaineers in the pros too.
Browns bowl wins at WVU--1 win
prick- that would be you. Anti white? Lol. No, understanding that there is racism and wanting it changed doesn’ t make one “ anti white”- it makes one anti RACIST.
So you once again admit that you are an anti white, anti Christian, bigot and racist!
Lmao! Rodriguez last 3 years he won 11, 11, and 10 games. And would’ve won 11 again had he not left before the Fiesta Bowl. He also won his last 2 Bowls at WVU. Stewart was 2-1 in bowls and won 9, 9, and 9 games all 3 of his years. Comparing Holgorsen to them is idiotic.
How many coaches get a contract extension after going 7-5 in year 5?
