What does it say about the GOP in SC when W is so popular?

rog1187

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The guy sent 4500 Americans to die in Iraq, tens of thousands maimed and what exactly did it get us from a strategic standpoint? Plus, he oversaw the worst economic disaster in this country since the Great Depression. Wonder if Herbert Hoover ever had to buy a drink in SC? I bet he didn't. Richard Nixon either.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...paign-for-brother-jeb-in-south-carolina/?_r=0
Yes the recession can be boiled down to just one man LOL...what a maroon [roll]
 

RichardPeterJohnson

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Yes the recession can be boiled down to just one man LOL...what a maroon [roll]
Well, let's see, W's deregulation of Wall street helped create the housing bubble and allowed risky trading practices. And allowed banks to get into the investment trading business. What a disaster that turned out to be. His tax cuts on the wealthiest 5% cost the US revenue of $2.5-3 trillion all the while his war in Iraq ran up a tab of about $4 trillion. When the housing crisis kicked in, he helped the banks but did nothing meaningful to help the people who really matter-the mortgage holder. So, i can see how you be apprehensive abouut pinning any blame on W. Obviously it was all the evil demiocrat's fault-namely carter and Clinton.
 

rog1187

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Well, let's see, W's deregulation of Wall street helped create the housing bubble and allowed risky trading practices. And allowed banks to get into the investment trading business. What a disaster that turned out to be. His tax cuts on the wealthiest 5% cost the US revenue of $2.5-3 trillion all the while his war in Iraq ran up a tab of about $4 trillion. When the housing crisis kicked in, he helped the banks but did nothing meaningful to help the people who really matter-the mortgage holder. So, i can see how you be apprehensive abouut pinning any blame on W. Obviously it was all the evil demiocrat's fault-namely carter and Clinton.
Housing crisis began Congress in 1992 and their passing of "affordable housing goals"...and then continued to increase those goals over the years....add piss poor oversight of Freddie and Fannie...add people got into homes cheaply that they normally couldn't afford while belieiving their home value would only go up - in 2005 Frank Nothaft, chief economist of Freddie Mac, said, “I don’t foresee any national decline in home price values".

But please go on beating your drum
 

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Housing crisis began Congress in 1992 and their passing of "affordable housing goals"...and then continued to increase those goals over the years....add piss poor oversight of Freddie and Fannie...add people got into homes cheaply that they normally couldn't afford while belieiving their home value would only go up - in 2005 Frank Nothaft, chief economist of Freddie Mac, said, “I don’t foresee any national decline in home price values".

But please go on beating your drum
There you have it, just as predicted....Democrats' fault. W had nothing to do with it. Amazing how ignorant you people choose to be.
 

rog1187

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There you have it, just as predicted....Democrats' fault. W had nothing to do with it. Amazing how ignorant you people choose to be.
LOL yes the housing bubble had nothing to do with the recession...talk about ignorance...do you take your glasses off when you put your head in the sand?
 

RichardPeterJohnson

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LOL yes the housing bubble had nothing to do with the recession...talk about ignorance...do you take your glasses off when you put your head in the sand?
Who oversaw the executive branch fro 2001-2009? What was in charge of Freddie and Fannie? Who advocated tax cuts for the wealthiest which deprived the US treasury of $3 trillion. Who chose to invade a country costing $4 trillion? Talk about head in the sand.
 

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The guy sent 4500 Americans to die in Iraq, tens of thousands maimed and what exactly did it get us from a strategic standpoint? Plus, he oversaw the worst economic disaster in this country since the Great Depression. Wonder if Herbert Hoover ever had to buy a drink in SC? I bet he didn't. Richard Nixon either.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...paign-for-brother-jeb-in-south-carolina/?_r=0

Deflect from your old paranoid white woman who left our britches down and old white man socialist duo. I can see why you would want to do that.
 
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LOL yes the housing bubble had nothing to do with the recession...talk about ignorance...do you take your glasses off when you put your head in the sand?

And you realize the feds (that would be Ben Bernanke, who worked for W) could have raised interest rates in 2004 and headed off the housing bubble?
 

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Housing crisis began Congress in 1992 and their passing of "affordable housing goals"...and then continued to increase those goals over the years....add piss poor oversight of Freddie and Fannie...add people got into homes cheaply that they normally couldn't afford while belieiving their home value would only go up - in 2005 Frank Nothaft, chief economist of Freddie Mac, said, “I don’t foresee any national decline in home price values".

But please go on beating your drum

Yes it did but some of the idiots here can't seem to connect the dots. A Democrat friend of mine who just happened to work for the Clinton Administration in the 90's and later was the CEO of Huntington Bancshares ,Inc told me in 2000 what was going to happen because of the effort to increase home ownership to people whom he knew could never afford them and the pressure lending institutions were put under to approve almost anyone for loans. Unfortunately for many, he was correct. The big problem Bush made was to not fight against the likes of Barney Frank and that crowd. PS..... my friend is no longer a Democrat.
 

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And you realize the feds (that would be Ben Bernanke, who worked for W) could have raised interest rates in 2004 and headed off the housing bubble?
Therein lies the difference between reasonable people and wingnuts. Wingnuts are always right. Admitting that they are wrong is an impossibility. Their conservative values are beyond reproach. Admitting that they are wrong-or even complicit in any failed policy-upsets the wingnut apple cart.
 

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Ok, did learn for a few minutes that the chairman is appointed rather than voted, but still an independent entity outside of any of the branches of government.
You mean only independent under a GOP president. Under a Dem, you and all the others have a different story. Always do.
 

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Housing crisis began Congress in 1992 and their passing of "affordable housing goals"...and then continued to increase those goals over the years....add piss poor oversight of Freddie and Fannie...add people got into homes cheaply that they normally couldn't afford while belieiving their home value would only go up - in 2005 Frank Nothaft, chief economist of Freddie Mac, said, “I don’t foresee any national decline in home price values".

But please go on beating your drum

The steps leading to the crash started much earlier than that. Here are some things for your reading pleasure. It isn't hard to begin to piece together how each of these built on the others and lead us to the crash:

Depository Institutions Deregulation and Monetary Control Act of 1980
Garn-St. Germain Act of 1982
Alternative Mortgage Transactions Parity Act of 1982

Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act 1999