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<blockquote data-quote="Buckaineer" data-source="post: 131865794" data-attributes="member: 1428007">There are plenty of examples of coaches that have improved by year 3 such as Klieman at K State, or the hated D Holgorsen at Houston or Michigan State's Tucker who hasn't even had 2 years yet showed tremendous growth and success.No one getting paid to win games is going to get an endless amount of time to &quot;improve&quot;, especially when there is 0 sign of improvement anywhere in the program.Moving on from someone not performing even basic success in their job tasks is not the same thing as being &quot;trigger happy&quot;.&nbsp; Now people are using all of these excuses to excuse away poor coaching performance such as players getting rights they should have had all along?&nbsp; Makes no sense.The previous staff showed WVU could win at an average of 8 wins and improve.&nbsp; The current staff is performing worse in every aspect yet for some reason blind support?&nbsp; Suspect it has more to do with &quot;culture&quot; than doing what he is supposedly hired to do--win games for WVU.&nbsp; That he is NOT doing, and that is exactly what gets coaches fired.Sometimes its just not a good fit.&nbsp; WVU let the secondmost winning coach ever go, why hang onto the worst coaching effort in over 40 years?Can see these same people in a few years after more 5 win or less seasons and in the dregs claiming they never said keep Brown, or that you had to give him a chance?&nbsp; How many years of chances at $4,000,000 per year does he need exactly?&nbsp; Nothing is improved, in fact its sliding backwards in every category.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Buckaineer, post: 131865794, member: 1428007"] There are plenty of examples of coaches that have improved by year 3 such as Klieman at K State, or the hated D Holgorsen at Houston or Michigan State's Tucker who hasn't even had 2 years yet showed tremendous growth and success. No one getting paid to win games is going to get an endless amount of time to "improve", especially when there is 0 sign of improvement anywhere in the program. Moving on from someone not performing even basic success in their job tasks is not the same thing as being "trigger happy". Now people are using all of these excuses to excuse away poor coaching performance such as players getting rights they should have had all along? Makes no sense. The previous staff showed WVU could win at an average of 8 wins and improve. The current staff is performing worse in every aspect yet for some reason blind support? Suspect it has more to do with "culture" than doing what he is supposedly hired to do--win games for WVU. That he is NOT doing, and that is exactly what gets coaches fired. Sometimes its just not a good fit. WVU let the secondmost winning coach ever go, why hang onto the worst coaching effort in over 40 years? Can see these same people in a few years after more 5 win or less seasons and in the dregs claiming they never said keep Brown, or that you had to give him a chance? How many years of chances at $4,000,000 per year does he need exactly? Nothing is improved, in fact its sliding backwards in every category. [/QUOTE]

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