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What good is a mask if a coach lowers it 25% of the time when he's yelling at his players?

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Son_Of_Saul

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Or when the players have it off while they're playing and touching/sweating on the exact same basketball?


Help me understand. I'm trying to be a good little modernist and "follow the science."

 
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jmw23712

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It doesn’t do any good, it’s all for show. Cal and these players are in close quarters all the time not on TV.

It’s like the bench situation. These guys are inches apart all week in practice but the chairs are 6 feet apart on the sidelines. Makes no sense, but makes the media happy.
 
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Cats192

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Trying to give a scientific answer and a practical answer:

Cal and the players share a bubble/circle. Cal isn't going to give them COVID, and they aren't going to give it to him.
So you're really just trying to prevent spread from someone you aren't in contact with. Which would be the other team/the referees. So to that end, Cal really just needs the mask up when someone not on UK's team/staff is within 6 feet.

This becomes muddied by the fact that the players are literally on top of eachother. The refs probably keep a good distance for most of the game, but are surely close at times.

Everyone has pretty rigorous testing and should be clear of COVID. For the most part, I think the masks are moreso for show and legal purposes. They don't want to get sued saying they didn't require masks and kids got COVID. I also think there's some degree of trying to have the coaches be positive examples of wearing masks.
 
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revcort

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My opinion: the mask wearing by coaches and players, who have been in "the bubble" together and who will return to that same bubble, with 5 guys on the floor at a time interacting with each other and the other team, who will certainly bring back whatever germs or viruses they came into contact with during the game to that same bubble, is just to set an example for others to see. I don't believe the science would say the masks in this setting do any real good. That's why if anyone has the virus or can be contact traced to someone who has been exposed, will not even be in the building. I also think it's funny the teams can play, lay on, and sweat on each other for 40 minutes but can't shake hands or fist bump afterward. If you didn't catch it during the game, you're not gonna catch it during a post-game fist bump.
 
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UKfan2151

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Unless they are wearing something like N95 respirators (which aren't available to the public right now because the medical people need every one they can get ahold of), the mask stuff is mostly just done for "feels" anyway. Regular masks might help a little in cutting down on droplet particles being spread from the wearer to others, but those masks just aren't capable of filtering out smaller particles. It requires the really good masks to do that. And they only work when properly fitted. These cheap, Chinese import cloth masks provide minimal protection. And after wearing the same one for the two hours it takes to get through a game, it is going to be so moisture soaked it will lose the minimal protective properties it already has.
 
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Jmeeks54thebest

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RunninRichie said:
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Dont expect the facts to change their feelings. Masks make some people FEEL safer. So obviously, despite science stating how ineffective they are, we must all wear them! Civil rights be damned!

and all this for a virus with a 99.7% recovery rate... imagine if a real disease became viral like covid....

i do believe, eventually, people will see the truth. And once they do covid 19 will serve as a boy who cried wolf incident. And the next time a disease goes viral, no matter how deadly, many won’t believe the powers in place.
 
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ukwazoo said:
Here is more recent information

And here

The problem with all of this, like with almost anything...anyone, anywhere can find an article to support their point. People will always believe what they want to, and once their mind is made up, it's not changing.

Cal's mask doesn't even fit anyway, so it is 0% effective.
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lol my link wasnt just an article it was a rundown of studies and videos showing why masks do not work.
 
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sambowieshin_rivals

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Cats192 said:
Trying to give a scientific answer and a practical answer:

Cal and the players share a bubble/circle. Cal isn't going to give them COVID, and they aren't going to give it to him.
So you're really just trying to prevent spread from someone you aren't in contact with. Which would be the other team/the referees. So to that end, Cal really just needs the mask up when someone not on UK's team/staff is within 6 feet.

This becomes muddied by the fact that the players are literally on top of eachother. The refs probably keep a good distance for most of the game, but are surely close at times.

Everyone has pretty rigorous testing and should be clear of COVID. For the most part, I think the masks are moreso for show and legal purposes. They don't want to get sued saying they didn't require masks and kids got COVID. I also think there's some degree of trying to have the coaches be positive examples of wearing masks.
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This.
 
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thepip

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jmw23712 said:
It doesn’t do any good, it’s all for show. Cal and these players are in close quarters all the time not on TV.

It’s like the bench situation. These guys are inches apart all week in practice but the chairs are 6 feet apart on the sidelines. Makes no sense, but makes the media happy.
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But, Andy is happy!
 
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TBCat

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Son_Of_Saul said:
Or when the players have it off while they're playing and touching/sweating on the exact same basketball?


Help me understand. I'm trying to be a good little modernist and "follow the science."

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What good is the mask even if worn correctly? What good is spacing the seats on the bench 6 feet apart when they don't social distance at all when they are on the court? None of this has had any science behind it in the first place.
 
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wildcatsboston1984 said:
Being socially distanced part of the time is better than none of the time, same with the mask.

But Cal shouldn't be taking it off when talking to anyone, especially not when they are close to each other like that.
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They spend nearly every waking moment together in a bubble if I am not mistaken. Boston is staying with Cal is what we are hearing.

That is an odd mindset to have.
 
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IFerg1969

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TBCat said:
What good is the mask even if worn correctly? What good is spacing the seats on the bench 6 feet apart when they don't social distance at all when they are on the court? None of this has had any science behind it in the first place.
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Well, actually, there kind of is some science behind it. https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200826/the-forgotten-science-behind-face-masks
There are loads of articles online. But, the idea isn’t that wearing a mask will 100% guarantee the wearer or anyone they come in contact with won’t get the virus. It’s more about statistics, about making it more difficult for the virus to get where it wants to go, about slowing the transmission as a whole.

No one ever said wearing a mask would save all lives, just that it would help to save some lives. To reduce the overall impact of the virus. Most people would say saving some lives is better than saving no lives. But it only works when everyone is doing it consistently and properly. But when they don’t and people get sick and die, we get people saying ‘see, masks don’t work anyway, there’s no science behind it’.
 
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Cats192 said:
Trying to give a scientific answer and a practical answer:

Cal and the players share a bubble/circle. Cal isn't going to give them COVID, and they aren't going to give it to him.
So you're really just trying to prevent spread from someone you aren't in contact with. Which would be the other team/the referees. So to that end, Cal really just needs the mask up when someone not on UK's team/staff is within 6 feet.

This becomes muddied by the fact that the players are literally on top of eachother. The refs probably keep a good distance for most of the game, but are surely close at times.

Everyone has pretty rigorous testing and should be clear of COVID. For the most part, I think the masks are moreso for show and legal purposes. They don't want to get sued saying they didn't require masks and kids got COVID. I also think there's some degree of trying to have the coaches be positive examples of wearing masks.
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Cal and the players don’t share a bubble/circle. They are hanging out with friends, going to mall, stores, etc just like everyone else.
 
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Rockfly78

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I just finished coaching a season of football with a mask. It sucked and you can forget about blowing a whistle. I may have let the play run late a few times fumbling around trying to blow the whistle with a mask on.

We all knew it doesn’t help. But it’s what we had to do in order to have a season. So don’t overthink it. It’s a necessary step in order to keep the wolves away.
 
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bkingUK

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I get why they make coaches wear masks, but those coaches also spend more time with the players than their own families. If they are getting covid, it’s not because of a game.
 
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Bigblue2023

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Rockfly78 said:
I just finished coaching a season of football with a mask. It sucked and you can forget about blowing a whistle. I may have let the play run late a few times fumbling around trying to blow the whistle with a mask on.

We all knew it doesn’t help. But it’s what we had to do in order to have a season. So don’t overthink it. It’s a necessary step in order to keep the wolves away.
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This is very true, and also the problem. Being bullied into compliance is the new standard and very few resist. It's downright scary how quickly our leaders have turned people against each other with neither side really knowing what is scientifically best. It's great insight into how things played out in the 1930s and 40s.
 
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