I actually posted the stats on BDJ one day for most of the guards like Zimmerman, Bowers, Jamont Gordon, Stewartetc and showed that they really didnt improve much from their freshman year to their Senior year. their number increases usually correlated with their increase in minutes but the numbers were pretty much the same on a per minute basis. I didnt look at the big men but as far as point guards, there was really no improvement. A player would average 5 points, 2 assists their fresh year playing 10 minutes and would come back bext year and average 10 points, 4 assists playing 20 minutes. That's not improving.