What I find puzzling about the B1G cancellation

[3xWVUenginEER]

They announced the schedules last week and cancelled this week????????

Am I the only one who looks at this and says that’s a PR craziness? If Jim Delaney was the man in charge would this be happening like this.

I still think they’re all (meaning P5 etc) gonna cancel before game 2-3 at the latest, but I’m shocked that the B1G went first. I guess the decision was made in the Leaders Division. The Legends were not consulted—-Had to do it.

 

[Buckaineer]

From factual news reports the Big Ten consulted medical and scientific personnel in making their decision to cancel--voted on by presidents.

AD's and coaches put together the schedule.

 

[oceantide83]

From factual news reports the Big Ten consulted medical and scientific personnel in making their decision to cancel--voted on by presidents.

AD's and coaches put together the schedule.

The same medical and scientific personnel that contradict themselves and ignore the advice of medical doctor's on the front lines? Watch the virus disappear from the headlines after November 3rd.

 

[3xWVUenginEER]

Idk bout November 3rd. Oh wait that’s Election Day. I see what you’re getting at. I think it was created in a Chinese lab. I don’t see natural virusss causing heart enlargements if that’s happening. Never heard of it if so.


anyways.

I can understand the Pac12 cancelling. It’s the left coast and college football isn’t the top draw in CA. It’s not. I don’t think it is in Oregon or Washington. It probably is in Utah. It’s not in CO or AZ. Notice about alll the places with legalized pot for rec use don’t have college football as the top draw. Hmmmh?

the B1G is the reason there’s a playoff. They demanded after 2 sec schools (Bama vs LSU) played for it. The fact they are gonna be home watching with the possibility still there will be 3 P5 conferences still playing is unimaginable to me. Seriously Ohio State and Meat Chicken are 2 of the top football draws there are. Nebraska has the longest sellout steak (40+, heck it may be 50+ years) in sports. They’re at home while Vandy Wake and Kansas still have the possibility to play football. This is the buzzard world.........Until the other conferences pack it in.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

They announced the schedules last week and cancelled this week????????

Am I the only one who looks at this and says that’s a PR craziness? If Jim Delaney was the man in charge would this be happening like this.

I still think they’re all (meaning P5 etc) gonna cancel before game 2-3 at the latest, but I’m shocked that the B1G went first. I guess the decision was made in the Leaders Division. The Legends were not consulted—-Had to do it.

That was all theater. They were hoping the governors would step in and take this decision off their plate.

They wanted the appearance of a season....

 

[Darth_VadEER]

From factual news reports the Big Ten consulted medical and scientific personnel in making their decision to cancel--voted on by presidents.

AD's and coaches put together the schedule.

Yeah, that's definitely not what really happened.

 

[WVUALLEN]

The Big 12 Conference, following a meeting on Tuesday, still intends to have a fall football season, according to reports from Yahoo! Sports and ESPN. Both outlets cite unnamed sources.

When reached by CNN on Tuesday night, a spokesperson for the Big 12 said that details would be announced Wednesday morning.

Earlier Tuesday, the Big Ten and Pac-12 conferences each voted to postpone college football and all their other fall sports seasons.

The ACC and SEC -- the two other "Power Five" leagues for football -- have yet to declare how they plan to proceed amid the Covid-19 pandemic.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/11/us/big-ten-postpones-football-coronavirus-sports-trnd/index.html

 

[WVUALLEN]

AD's and coaches put together the schedule.

Coaches were not involved in scheduling.

 

[3xWVUenginEER]

Does anyone else think that conversations between Nebraska and other conferences, (not just the Big XII) are taking place behind the scenes for the upcoming years? Either it is a loose lipped school where coaches & ADs & Presidents speak freely and Say what they feel OR there’s already been conversations with other P5 conferences where Frost is like let‘a just get the heck out of here and use COV19 as the grounds for leaving cause we’re playing in 2020. It’s almost like Frost is saying “get those B1G patches off the jerseys cause we don’t need that no more.”

and I truly don’t think there is one P5 conference who wouldn’t welcome Nebraska immediately and have them on the schedule for 2021. And when I say not one I mean not one-think about it: CO, AZ, & UT play in the PAC 12. ND plays in the ACC and the ACC tried to get Texas. MO plays in the SEC East with A&M in West.

The Big XII would obviously want them back for the tradition & history & rivalry reasons. The Big XII goes to a 11 school, 10 game round robin conference schedule with 2 ooc. And if the Big XII goes back to 12 then it’s probably gonna be BYU in the 12 spot. Then you got Big XII North and South or Big XII East and West.

Whether anything happens this is interesting———At least from a sitting on the beach POV.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Yeah and Ohio State is going to join the American conference for 1 year just to play 12 games.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Idk bout November 3rd. Oh wait that’s Election Day. I see what you’re getting at. I think it was created in a Chinese lab. I don’t see natural virusss causing heart enlargements if that’s happening. Never heard of it if so.


anyways.

I can understand the Pac12 cancelling. It’s the left coast and college football isn’t the top draw in CA. It’s not. I don’t think it is in Oregon or Washington. It probably is in Utah. It’s not in CO or AZ. Notice about alll the places with legalized pot for rec use don’t have college football as the top draw. Hmmmh?

the B1G is the reason there’s a playoff. They demanded after 2 sec schools (Bama vs LSU) played for it. The fact they are gonna be home watching with the possibility still there will be 3 P5 conferences still playing is unimaginable to me. Seriously Ohio State and Meat Chicken are 2 of the top football draws there are. Nebraska has the longest sellout steak (40+, heck it may be 50+ years) in sports. They’re at home while Vandy Wake and Kansas still have the possibility to play football. This is the buzzard world.........Until the other conferences pack it in.

5 of the 6 PAC 12 states have NFL teams

Utah is the only one without one

All B1G states have NFL teams except for the two that supposedly in the beginning voted no. Iowa and Nebraska
The rest of the states have NFL teams


SEC has a lot of states without one
ACC has two states without one. But also has states where NFL teams aren't the first pick. Georgia and Florida.
Big 12 had majority of states without a NFL team


People in B1G states love football but their first love is the NFL. NFL was created in the Industrial Midwest now known as the RustBelt
Ohio is maybe the only one where things are different. Still the Browns and Bengals have solid fanbases



Been around the country

West Coast and Northeast is NFL and a little college
Texas and Louisiana is probably 50/50

A lot of the SEC states it is majority college and a little NFL.
Depends on how good the teams are. Outside of the Cowboys most of these fanbases are very Fairweather
Saints could have made the switch.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Tennessee (2 teams Tenn & Vanderbilt)
Georgia
Florida
Louisiana
Missouri (Chiefs are in Missouri not Kansas)
Texas
South Carolina

8 SEC states have Pro teams. That's over 50%

 

[MichiganHerd]

I'm not sure I would include Michigan among the states with an NFL team. Last I knew, it was still the Lions.

 

[topdecktiger]

Tennessee (2 teams Tenn & Vanderbilt)
Georgia
Florida
Louisiana
Missouri (Chiefs are in Missouri not Kansas)
Texas
South Carolina

8 SEC states have Pro teams. That's over 50%

South Carolina doesn't have a pro team.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

There is a clear difference between the B1G and SEC

Some want to make it about something else. But Nebraska makes that untrue

Comes down to the NFL IMO and how one sees CFB to the NFL.


I see it as a superior product. NFL may have better players but the games are boring.
Give me a great college game over a NFL game

 

[Butler-eer]

This has nothing to do with fans of NFL or NCAA. It's a political & power play by the conferences. P12 lets politics drive their decision. B1G wants to be the top dog and let everybody know they are the top dog in CFB and force the rest of the conferences to follow.

 

[Soaring Eagle 74]

Idk bout November 3rd. Oh wait that’s Election Day. I see what you’re getting at. I think it was created in a Chinese lab. I don’t see natural virusss causing heart enlargements if that’s happening. Never heard of it if so.


anyways.

I can understand the Pac12 cancelling. It’s the left coast and college football isn’t the top draw in CA. It’s not. I don’t think it is in Oregon or Washington. It probably is in Utah. It’s not in CO or AZ. Notice about alll the places with legalized pot for rec use don’t have college football as the top draw. Hmmmh?

the B1G is the reason there’s a playoff. They demanded after 2 sec schools (Bama vs LSU) played for it. The fact they are gonna be home watching with the possibility still there will be 3 P5 conferences still playing is unimaginable to me. Seriously Ohio State and Meat Chicken are 2 of the top football draws there are. Nebraska has the longest sellout steak (40+, heck it may be 50+ years) in sports. They’re at home while Vandy Wake and Kansas still have the possibility to play football. This is the buzzard world.........Until the other conferences pack it in.

I think the Broncos probably have something to do with CU football popularity. There are also pro baseball, basketball, and hockey teams here.

 

[3xWVUenginEER]

Could be but think about Folsom Fields & Boulder which is like 30 miles from Denver. It’s like 50k seats and not filled anymore. I mean it’s been 30 years since Bill MacCartney got a share of the national title (they did beat Lou Holtz and ND in the OB). I do not care about the 5th Down play at Mixzoo either. It was “Sal” helping out. Anyway they’ve not been good in multi year spans since what Gary Barnett?

Imo the biggest mistake they ever made was PAC 12. For our sake glad they made it.


I still think recreational Mary Jane isn’t helping football fandom there.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Boulder is an interesting place.

There are so many rumors about their fanbase.
I do know the one about shining a laser into the eyes of Oklahoma State's QB is true. But vandalizing cars with Nebraska license plates or Nebraska bumper stickers I don't know about.

I watched a few of their games when they had decent teams against big name opponents

Not much has changed. CU has a decent fanbase. They are arrogant.

Well known to be foul.

 

[WVUALLEN]

Rust Belt Starts in Central New York goes west through Pendylvania

South Carolina doesn't have a pro team.

Sure they do. They just started this year. Haven't you heard.

 

[tOSUGrad90]

Another B1G "puzzlement":

https://saturdaytradition.com/michi...-canceled-football-season-using-flawed-study/

Me thinks that certain blue state politicos found any reason possible to cancel the B1G fall football season. Given that the vote was 8-6 for canceling the fall football season, this story is interesting....

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Another B1G "puzzlement":

https://saturdaytradition.com/michi...-canceled-football-season-using-flawed-study/

Me thinks that certain blue state politicos found any reason possible to cancel the B1G fall football season. Given that the vote was 8-6 for canceling the fall football season, this story is interesting....

SEC is using narratives to attack the B1G

On you to believe them or not.

This goes back to the B1G saying they will do whatever they can to sabotage the season.

In regards to the vote ..
There is Solidarity now. Last I heard was there were only two schools who wanted to play and Iowa bent over behind closed doors and Nebraska in front of everyone.

 

[tOSUGrad90]

That's fake news, TVZ, but you bought it, hook, line, and sinker. Sure, the No. 2 team in the preseason polls, which has at least three projected first round draft picks (including a Heisman Trophy candidate at QB), none of whom would play in the Spring, and situated in a state led by a Republican Governor, voted against playing football in the Fall, right?

"** Prez J wanted to play … Multiple sources have confirmed to us that Ohio State’s new president — Dr. Kristina Johnson — was in favor of playing the 2020 college football season. At the very least, Johnson did not believe a final decision needed to be made this week. But as the new woman on the block, she did not have much say in the matter, we are told.

And either way, there was already too much momentum from other Big Ten presidents. We’re not just saying this because it’s an Ohio State site, but sources have confirmed that Michigan president Mark Schlissel was one of the leading voices saying the season should be canceled."

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-...n-wanted-to-play-Daydream-believer-150271235/

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

That's fake news, TVZ, but you bought it, hook, line, and sinker. Sure, the No. 2 team in the preseason polls, which has at least three projected first round draft picks (including a Heisman Trophy candidate at QB), none of whom would play in the Spring, and situated in a state led by a Republican Governor, voted against playing football in the Fall, right?

"** Prez J wanted to play … Multiple sources have confirmed to us that Ohio State’s new president — Dr. Kristina Johnson — was in favor of playing the 2020 college football season. At the very least, Johnson did not believe a final decision needed to be made this week. But as the new woman on the block, she did not have much say in the matter, we are told.

And either way, there was already too much momentum from other Big Ten presidents. We’re not just saying this because it’s an Ohio State site, but sources have confirmed that Michigan president Mark Schlissel was one of the leading voices saying the season should be canceled."

https://247sports.com/college/ohio-...n-wanted-to-play-Daydream-believer-150271235/

Fake News?

Fake News would to think that somehow Ohio State went against the grain.

There is a possibility that Ohio State wanted to play and attempted to find other like minded universities.
But what happened in the end was pretty much all the B1G voted to cancel the season.


You can attempt to look at Ohio State however you want but what Iowa and Nebraska are saying contradicts this.

Iowa pretty much said there weren't many people in the conference who wanted to play so they had zero choice but to cancel the season
Nebraska was humiliated publicly.




The rest....

This isn't a Republican nor a Democrat issue

There is no partisan divide except if you want it to be.

Let's stop trying to politicize everything. Not very smart.

 

[tOSUGrad90]

Yes, you continue to regurgitate Fake News, and this issue is extremely political, as you are, Chrissy. Stop deluding yourself into thinking that I take orders from you. I provided a quote and link to support my position. POTUS wants a fall college football season, so Democrat politicians don't want it. Only you would pretend to believe it's a coincidence that schools in the red state dominated conferences are the ones planning to play football in the Fall. Moreover, only you would think that it makes any sense for a loaded Ohio State team, which will lose key players in the Spring, would be against playing football in the Fall. Ohio State has everything to lose by canceling football in the Fall.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

I don't know what is going on at Ohio State

Sounds like Michigan beat them this year even without playing. Told you a few months ago it would happen. Like in the 1990s again. Michigan preventing you from playing for a NC.


But in your mind you are wanting to believe something.
But you are making Ohio State look weak. Like they don't have enough power in their own conference to get things done.

Making them look like Nebraska.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Kansas is a very Red state.

Both universities didn't want to play football this year. They were looking to cancel as well.

Has nothing to do with politics

 

[tOSUGrad90]

You think that you're clever, but you're nothing but a horse's a$$, Chrissy. You should have stopped with your first line: You don't know anything about Ohio State. Even though you don't, you still pontificate about Ohio State, USC, and every other college program, as if you're Paul Finebaum, Jr. Being able to run a Google search doesn't make you an expert on anything.

P.S. Kansas is a red state, and the Kansas schools are planning to play in the Fall, dipsh!t, so what's your idiotic point?

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Kansas like Ohio State has no power


This ultimately was about one thing to Michigan.
Their Fake Ivy League status.

They can think whatever they want. People aren't going to stop trusting the University of Texas because we play football.

You can say the same thing about UNC and their research Triangle.


Do you understand schools like Michigan and Stanford want to deemphasize sports like the Ivy League did.
They are insecure about their standing so for them this is what would put them to another level.

 

[tOSUGrad90]

No school has power during an election year, Chrissy. This is all about political power. It's the same motivation that your friends in Antifa have for tearing down America's institutions. By the way, Kansas and Kansas State could simply decline to play, if they truly didn't want to play, so your argument fails miserably, as usual.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

I see why you are so obsessed with me.

Because your mind is that far gone. You are attempting to explain the world through Trump or Anti Trump reasoning

It is disgusting. I do believe we have people who are anti Trump but it isn't to the level you believe.

I don't have any respect for those people either. Same as the people who are pro Trump about everything.


But the number of people who are like that isn't what you think.

Not everyone makes decisions based on him
He isn't that important

I voted for the guy. But I have turned him off. Like listening to a circus.
A lot of us are like that. This doesn't mean that I don't agree with everything he has done. It means that the guy has allowed the job to become too big for him.

 

[tOSUGrad90]

No, you didn't vote for Trump, Christopher. Your posts on here and on Facebook expose you as a Marxist, and a Marxist would never vote for Trump...not in 2016...not in 2020...not ever. Stop lying. In an election year, major decisions, including those that affect big-time college athletics, are politically driven. It's the unfortunate reality. The proof is in the pudding. Conferences dominated by schools in blue states practice the "cancel culture" wherever possible, and red-state dominated conferences are eager and willing to play ball.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

[roll]



Your mind is that far gone.

You are that far disconnected from a position of power. More than that Trump has that much impact on your life

 

[tOSUGrad90]

Marxist Chrissy continues to spin like a top, as he decides which classes to take this semester...as an almost 30 year old.

:joy:

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Sad that Donald Trump is #1 for you


My dog is more important to me than him.

I put myself #1 and things around me.

Should do the same, brother

 

[tOSUGrad90]

You, a lifetime student, is preaching to me, Chrissy? No bigger loser than an unemployed and delusional one, son. You truly don't understand that nobody takes anything that you post seriously, and no matter how many times that you lie to yourself, you do care...a whole lot.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

Do you understand that your statements prove who you are.

The way you think

Your don't understand that not everyone thinks like you....
#1 Step in Life

Understanding that people think differently and people have different priorities

The way you attempt to explain things is completely out in left field, brother

No one is sitting around making important decisions based on screwing Donald Trump


On the otherhand for you to allow someone to have that much importance in your life is wrong

The reason you are thinking these people are doing this is because you do. You create the truth on what makes Trump look good

Especially someone who doesn't give a **** about you.

 

[tOSUGrad90]

You're delusional, Chrissy. The extreme hatred of Donald Trump is palpable and all around you. Your party is desperate to see him lose in November, and will do anything to stop him. Hey, I get it: He's a jerk. But man, his policies are so much better than those of that drooling empty vessel lifetime politician, and his band of Marxist misfits.

 

[Butler-eer]

Do you understand that your statements prove who you are.

The way you think

Your don't understand that not everyone thinks like you....
#1 Step in Life

Understanding that people think differently and people have different priorities

The way you attempt to explain things is completely out in left field, brother

No one is sitting around making important decisions based on screwing Donald Trump


On the otherhand for you to allow someone to have that much importance in your life is wrong

The reason you are thinking these people are doing this is because you do. You create the truth on what makes Trump look good

Especially someone who doesn't give a **** about you.

TVZ, please pass what ever you're smoking. We'd all like to take a hit.

 

[TownesVanZandt_rivals]

TVZ, please pass what ever you're smoking. We'd all like to take a hit.

It is hard for me to think the #1 reason for the president of Michigan to make his decision is Donald Trump

Maybe you want this to be the case.

But like I said. If the guy moved up that far in life he has his priorities in order


Let's understand how people in high places think. More importantly in non political positions

They aren't worried about Donald Trump to that level.