What is everyone's opinion on paying athletes a monthly stipend?

[Red87]

Right now there is a huge debate going on at Redcuprebellion about whether or not college athletes should be paid. I am of the belief that athletes should absolutely NOT be paid because they are already receiving a free education, books, unlimited meal plans, etc. The issue here is if we start paying athletes it will set a precedent that will never stop at $1,000 or $2,000 a month. Teams with 150 million dollar a year budgets like bama and Texas will be able to tell the recruits that are thinking about going to OM and MSU " well those guys can only offer you 1,000 a month but we can offer you 5,000 a month." If that happens we will never be able to compete for top recruits with those guys. Anyways, I want to know everyone's opinion on this because this issue isn't just a OM vs. MSU issue. Both of our schools will be in the same boat if this ever happens. Here is the link, I encourage you to join and give your opinion.
http://www.redcuprebellion.com/2014...ation-football-ncaa-cash-money-shabazz-napier

 

[Maroon Eagle]

IT'S coming **

 

[Red87]

IT'S coming **

But do you agree with it? And if you do, how can we possibly do this and still keep the playing field level with top budget schools? Furthermore, where do we find the money to pay the women's lacrosse athletes, the rugby, hockey, track and field, and all other athletes the same?

 

[dawgstudent]

Whatever you pay them - it will have to be standardized and there will still be illegal recruiting.

 

[futaba.79]

how many hours a week do they work?

pay them as if they are on a work-study program. 25 hours a week at $10 bucks an hour.

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

Could be good for the broader economy. I vote yes.

 

[Red87]

pay them as if they are on a work-study program. 25 hours a week at $10 bucks an hour.

I can get down with this but what I can't agree with is paying these guys crazy $5,000-6,000 a month stipends.

 

[esplanade91]

1st, not if but WHEN it comes it will be set at a bar where all power 5 teams offer the same. Freaking out because Texas has more money than the both of us combined x2 is only causing unwarranted stress on your poor lil rebel heart. They already offer more "on the side" than us anyway. That changes nothing.

2nd, players already get a stipend. It just does not reflect the times. I think it's essentially peanuts, but now that schools can actually feed players that now allows them to spend their stipend on movie tickets and stuff instead of pizzas from Domino's.

It will probably only be eligible to full scholarship athletes, which cuts out lacrosse, equestrian parading around, and basket weaving. Women's basketball will be the only real beneficiary of money not earned.

 

[Red87]

Whatever you pay them - it will have to be standardized and there will still be illegal recruiting.

Is there a way to standardize it to where teams from C-USA and the WAC get the same amount as teams from the SEC and PAC-12?

 

[AssEndDawg]

I think we should allow for full scholarship value and pay them a stipend for spending money. It would prevent teams who are willing to cheat, like Ole Miss, from having sway over an otherwise moral person who faces a life of utter poverty at a honest school like Mississippi State. They will still cheat, but at least they won't be able to pull in the people of decent moral character who typically want to come to MSU.

 

[Red87]

I think we should allow for full scholarship value and pay them a stipend for spending money. It would prevent teams who are willing to cheat, like Ole Miss, from having sway over an otherwise moral person who faces a life of utter poverty at a honest school like Mississippi State. They will still cheat, but at least they won't be able to pull in the people of decent moral character who typically want to come to MSU.

I regurgitated hot coffee on my computer reading this. Good stuff Assenddawg.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

I don't have to agree with it or be against it for that matter. It's coming, so we need to be pragmatic and be ready. As far as funding is concerned, I foresee MSU having the minimum number of sponsored sports to be a D-1 program for a long long time...

In other words, no lacrosse for MSU.

 

[coach66]

I think they should be paid because most can't afford college despite the fact

their education and meals are paid for. If they violate the stipend agreement by taking extra money they should be disqualified from further participation and no booster or University should ever get in trouble. Accountability should be moved totally to the student and his family to comply with the rules.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

Do not pay them. Just get out of their pockets...

It is really a simple idea. Bring all the under the table stuff above it. Athlete's can make as much money as they want while on scholarship, just like any other student. Just make sure the school does not have a hand in setting up anything. If a school gets caught setting up jobs, it would be a automatic one year suspension of athletic activities. The Student-Athlete they will have to pay taxes on that money they earn. There is still only a limited number of positions on a football or basketball team so if you want to play you will still have to spread around.

Schools will also get more money in this deal because the memorabilia market place will open up tremendously. Athlete's could make money signing jerseys and other licensed products that they would have to buy. Treat the business like a business. The athlete would also be more appreciative of the opportunity provided by the school and will probably get more money donated back to them when an athlete makes it big.

 

[futaba.79]

no school will be for salaried athletes.............

because that would be the end of college football. It will be across the board and all schools will pay the same thing. I see something along the lines of what a grad student makes. Something slightly above minimum wage.

 

[dawgstudent]

Depends on who governs. If they form a big 5 "NCAA" - then those teams from SEC, Big 12, Big 10, PAC-12, ACC will have their own set of rules. If we are still part of the NCAA - i think it would have to be the same for every school.

 

[Hammer Down]

It is really a simple idea. Bring all the under the table stuff above it. Athlete's can make as much money as they want while on scholarship, just like any other student. Just make sure the school does not have a hand in setting up anything. If a school gets caught setting up jobs, it would be a automatic one year suspension of athletic activities. The Student-Athlete they will have to pay taxes on that money they earn. There is still only a limited number of positions on a football or basketball team so if you want to play you will still have to spread around.

Schools will also get more money in this deal because the memorabilia market place will open up tremendously. Athlete's could make money signing jerseys and other licensed products that they would have to buy. Treat the business like a business. The athlete would also be more appreciative of the opportunity provided by the school and will probably get more money donated back to them when an athlete makes it big.

I agree with this completely. NCAA/SEC/etc. wants to control the process and take their share. They don't want to relinquish control. They did it for so many years, now that bubble has burst. Can't control these guys anymore. The coaches and everybody else are simply making too much money to keep them out.

 

[Desoto]

They absolutely should get more. I don't know how much they should get,but what they get for what they generate is too lopsided. I dunno the amounts it should be but what it is now isn't close. The rules were set in a time when the game wasn't as big as it is. It's changed. So should the compensation. I don't think these kids should get rich off of it,but it should counter the fact they can't work. At all. That's all I'm for.

 

[aTotal360]

They should not get cash. They should get money on their moneymate (or whatever it's called now) and limit the daily spending to $30 per day. I certainly don't want them "going to bed hungry", but on the same token, they don't need a wad of cash to buy beer and ps4 games. Let's be honest here, only a fraction of college students are financially responsible. I know I wasn't.

 

[512taylor]

If they get paid, will they also be charged part of the expense of maintaining thee facililities they use as well as uniform cost, travel, etc.

Will other sports' participants get paid, too?

 

[Digging dog]

Legally?***

 

[121Josey]

If they want to set up a revenue sharing program (above the school's general scholarship) that is distributed equally among every D-I college athlete, then I have no problem with it. Fans can have their memorabilia and students-athletes can benefit from their participation.

 

[johnson86-1]

If they get paid, will they also be charged part of the expense of maintaining thee facililities they use as well as uniform cost, travel, etc.

Will other sports' participants get paid, too?

SEC football and men's basketball already pay for all that.

Only athletes on money making sports teams should be paid beyond scholarship money. Really the big 5 conferences should play by separate rules and football and basketball should be paid something reflecting the value they bring in. I would say the initial goal should be setting it at an amount that brings the vast majority of the cheating above board. They can do it with a set stipend, or they can have allocations where say in each class, you get to designate 5 players to get paid as 'A' players, 5 as 'B' players, 5 as 'C' players, etc. Either will work but the more differences allowed the less cheating there would be.

 

[thekimmer]

The problem is athletes do more to earn their scholly and......

..and are restricted more than students on other programs. College athletics has changed dramatically in the last 20-30 years. Student athletes today spend 12 months a year and countless hours to the sport that earns their scholarship. Most don't have time for a part time job unlike the academic scholar who admittedly spends much more time studying but they can get a part time job or even a summer job to earn spending money. Athletes are also restricted as to who they can get assistance from or even work for. Nobody cares that the business major on an academic scholly works for an MSU alum in his business for the summer. A scholarship athlete could not do that even if he/she had the time.

Allowing a reasonable stipend would only help the honest folks who do it the right way. The under the table stuff is going on right now and will still be going on no matter what happens with this. I also have a feeling that the beneficiaries of this largess don't really care much about a stipend.

 

[22yardpunt]

I'm ok with them being compensated but they should be compensated via a fund that cannot he accessed until they are out of school and have a degree. The thought here us that hopefully by 22-23 they are more mature and, if they do not make an NFL roster they can use that money to get started in life. Yes this is a rather broad stroke and the exceptions would need to be worked out. However having access to this money, along with a degree puts the player in a VERY advantageous position when trying to get started.

 

[Dawg1976]

They should not get cash. They should get money on their moneymate (or whatever it's called now) and limit the daily spending to $30 per day. I certainly don't want them "going to bed hungry", but on the same token, they don't need a wad of cash to buy beer and ps4 games. Let's be honest here, only a fraction of
college students are financially responsible. I know I wasn't.

Sounds like a decent plan. But as DS said, some of the higher profile players will still get paid under the table in addition to this. Cheating won't go away.

 

[esplanade91]

They should not get cash. They should get money on their moneymate (or whatever it's called now) and limit the daily spending to $30 per day. I certainly don't want them "going to bed hungry", but on the same token, they don't need a wad of cash to buy beer and ps4 games. Let's be honest here, only a fraction of college students are financially responsible. I know I wasn't.

They changed the rule last year. Scholarship football players get unlimited food 12 months a year. The going to bed hungry argument is dead and gone. Now it's they want scooters and PS4's... which I'm not saying they don't deserve.

 

[DerHntr]

The thing that I don't like is they can't get a part time job. I realize if they could then many would have fake jobs, but not having a job can cause a lot of issues for some of these young men.

For example, a number of them aren't great students and probably couldn't have gotten into many schools without sports. So they go 4 years without work experience either. Couple this with easy courses and no real focus on their degree. Then they end up not being drafted. What is left at that point? At least if they were working some, or even getting to do an internship, then they would have something to help them in the job market. They would have also earned money along the way.

I am starting to think BulldogBruce is right. Don't pay them but get out of their way.

 

[PBRME]

If anything pay them 20 hours a week at minimum wage, or slightly over, deduct taxes, and make them file taxes on it in April just like most normal college students.

 

[engie]

Is there a way to standardize it to where teams from C-USA and the WAC get the same amount as teams from the SEC and PAC-12?

No. That's the reason the power5 are going to get autonomy. It essentially creates a 4th division.

The only people this "stipend" is going to help at the beginning at these schools are the kids playing revenue-generating sports. Basketball and football. We should be able to come up with the extra $1mil/yr to make this happen. Especially with the extra revenue the monster known as the SECNetwork is about to generate.