What is with our fanbase's obsession with retreads??

TR.sixpack

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Fulmer Bowden Bowden Bower Seriously? Is Larry Templeton still AD? For once in your pathetic little lives, could you think outside of the typical MSU box???
 

Todd4State

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I don't know. I think people see a name that is familiar and they automatically think they can come into a train wreck and win like it's UT or Clemson.

I think a lot of our sheepish MSU fans have some weird Oregon-ish type love for UT. I guess it's because they go to Gatlinburg and they like the people. I think that's why you're seeing his name pop-up.
 

patdog

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have the same small-minded view he had of what can be done at Mississippi State. I'm glad Greg Byrne doesn't buy into any of that ****.
 

Stormrider81

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I agree totally. I don't want any of those you listed. I don't care what their records were. We need someone that can excite the fanbase and right the ship, not someone who got run out of town for not winning enough at their last gig. For once I want to get someone fairly young, either a young up and coming assistant or a young established head coach (like a Peterson type).
 

MSUCE99

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As much as I want someone young and exciting, I equally want someone who makes good game-day decisions and knows how to be a head coach. So, a retread, while probably not exciting, at least knows how to be a head coach already. A young coordinator, while exciting, may force us to endure another few years of on-the-job training, which will drive me absolutely nuts.

Best of all would be an exciting head coach (I am even OK with a successful D-II guy) that knows how to recruit, how to gameplan, and how to make in-game decisions and adjustments. Second to that would be a very good coordinator or an established "retread". But whoever it is better be pretty good at building up a program, as opposed to just maintaining one at a high level.
 

DowntownDawg

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....let's go hire an unproven position coach. We've got all the time in the world to clean up this mess. It's not like we need someone who has actually been a head coach before and knows how to run a program. We'll give him a few years to learn on the job. By year four, he should be winning.

Come on. The Larry Templeton way was to hire a position coach. The Donald Zacharias way was to hire a "retread" and that worked out pretty well for a while.
 

Hundpfundfels

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I dont know but I will be pissed if we settle for a hire like bowden or fulmer. Its like they refuse to think bigger than someone who is either marginal on experience or just got canned somewhere else. I made the mistake of going over to swan lake and they are already foaming at the mouth about dooley and bower. wtf? a has been and a guy who won for the first time this year in the SWAC.
 

Coast Dawg

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The JWS retread work out ok and I'm sure that's where this thought process originated

I'd rather not though
 

TR.sixpack

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That's a false choice. There are plenty of D-1 coaches on the upswing of their careers. Our task is finding one who will be willing to take a lot of money to coach in the hornets nest called the SEC.
 

MSUCE99

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I don't keep up with Fulmer very much. And I can't stand Tubberville either. But they've both been in the position to make head coaching decisions for a while now, and probably wouldn't punt from the 30 or go for it on 4th and 15.

I just cannot stand the idea of any more on-the-job training.
 

DowntownDawg

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...we have had one winning season since 2000. We are groupd by national, regional, and sometimes local media with Vanderbilt as the ****** football schools. We can't take anymore losing. Our fans, players, and recruits can't take it. We need to win now. And to make matters worse, we don't have anywhere near the talent to win 6 games with next year's schedule, and so you are going to have to have someone that knows how to coach these players up AND recruit quickly. No on the job training. This isn't 2001.