What is wrong with you 17'ing people?

ChazReinhold

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for the Frank Broyles award which is awarded to the top assistant coach in the nation....so yeah, he's one of the best in the nation.
 

patdog

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He may or may not be the absolute best in the country, but no matter how you look at it, he's got a hell of an argument to say he is the best.</p>
 

OMlawdog

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Maybe Florida? Who also scored a ton and who by the way has a load of talent.

By the way, the following coaches have won the Frank Broyles award in the last three years, so where were they hired, because I have never heard of them.

Jim Heacock
Greg Davis

By the way Cutcliffe was the 1998 Broyles award winner in 1998 the year before we hired him, so I guess he was the best coordinator in the country on a National Title team, so HOME RUN. Except he wasn't.

Wilson may very well be an outstanding hire, but he has not proven he can turn around a program and win with less, which is what he will have to do at MSU, same thing Nutt is doing at Ole Miss, because you can go talent for talent with LSU/AU/AL/FL/GA and expect to win.

I think Hatcher would be a great hire.
 

OMlawdog

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Bud Foster and Greg Davis the two years previously and Im not sure where those guys have head coaching jobs as of today.
 

Stormrider81

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Did they have a "load of talent"? Look at the guy's resume before writing him off as being a product of the talent he coaches.
 

RebelBruiser

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When Nebraska hired Bill Callahan, it was thought that he was a great offensive mind as well. Problem is, he never put together a defense, and he never managed to land a QB to run his offense. Charlie Weiss was thought to be a great hire as well.

There are a lot of instances where good coordinators have become good head coaches, but to me, you can't call a hire a homerun if it's someone that doesn't have head coaching experience. It may turn out to be a great hire, but to me a homerun hire is a hire that is pretty much a lock to be a winner. You can't say that about any coordinator, because they've never held the CEO position on a football team. They've never had to be the lead in recruiting, the lead in game-planning, the lead in managing practice, or the lead in determining how to motivate a team by pushing certain buttons. Until someone has done that successfully before, you can't call it a homerun or slam dunk.

For example, the hire of John Cohen was much closer to a homerun hire because he had shown the ability to rebuild a weak SEC program and win. He has the experience of managing the ins and outs of a program. Hiring Rick Stansbury was not a homerun. Stans turned out to be a quality coach, but at the time of the hire it couldn't have been considered a homerun, because it was his first real head coaching gig.

Edited to add: When we hired Tubberville, it was not a homerun hire. It turned out to be a great hire, but when he came, no one in the SEC or the nation stood up and took notice. Since he hadn't been a head man before, it was more of a wait and see. It turned out to be a great hire, just as a hire of Wilson might be a great hire, but you can't say it's a homerun. If you hire Wilson, no one in the SEC will say "wow, that MSU is now a player in the SEC for sure". It'll be a "let's wait and see if this guy is any good" type of reaction. That's just the way it is with any coordinator. When Mark Richt was hired at Georgia, it wasn't considered a homerun. It turned out to be a great hire, but it didn't create any hoopla like the Urban Meyer and Nick Saban hires.
 

Stormrider81

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And yes, Wilson is a better hire than Graham or Gill, and I would argue he is better than Tubberville for us right now. Petersen, Patterson, Whittingham, and Kelly? No, but we had little to no shot with any of those 4.</p>
 

Coach34

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you dont even acknowledge what he did at Northwestern...They are known for prolific offensive talent arent they?

Cut won a NC, but his offense wasnt setting records or tops in the nation....Tubby did have one of the top defenses nationally- Tubby= HR, Cut= safe hire

If you havent heard of Greg Davis, then there is no freaking need to keep this discussion going....wow...you lose
 

Stormrider81

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Callahan had destroyed the Raiders in short order. Nebraska was crazy for hiring him. Weiss was a consolation hire after missing out on Urban Meyer. He wasn't a bad hire, in the sense that he had been a successful OC. Now, he was a very risky hire in the sense that he was an NFL OC - in other words, not used to recruiting and developing players. ND messed up when they have him a 10 year contract after one decent season in which the previous head coach left them an NFL QB on roster.

I would rather have a top tier head coach, but we aren't going to get that. The decision then becomes top tier coordinator at a big time BCS school, or head coach from a CUSA level school. Really we weren't going to land a homerun established head coach anyway.
 

8dog

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Wilson's incredible body of work. Look at NW, look at OU's rise in offense over the last 3-4 years.

Ya'll can't be this stupid. Hell, this guy has done far more than Jimbo Fisher ever did yet Fisher got a HC gig (allegedly).
 

GloryDawg

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BigLeagueChew said:
I am not trying to propagate anything Ole Miss in this post. First we didn't look bad at all in our last coaching search, so I assume that you meant the one before Nutt.

I think that your second point is mildly retarded in essence. Just because someone pays well does not mean that you can get anyone. I think that a lot of people would agree that the potential for upward movement and growth is one major thing a person looks at when interviewing for jobs. Now if you do not have a job, you're more than likely to take whatever is out there. While the sky is the limit at State, the track record of individuals having sustained success over a long period of time or going on to higher profile jobs (Darrell Royal aside) is quite scarce. I am not saying that OM does not have face those same problems, but I am saying that us what potential candidates are looking and are having people tell them.

I am all for yall getting better because that is the only time when OM gets off their *** to do anything. flame away
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Mississippi State has only had four coaches in 30 years. Any coach looking for job security would look at Miss State. Hell you all have had that many coaches in 10 years. So don't come over with that I am Jesus Christ or some other sac religious attitude because your school has done nothing since the 60's.</p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"></p>

Plus Coach Nutt played your school like that screw up looking; retarded kid on Deliverance played that banjo.He suckers you all into giving him a 1 million dollar raise.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> Hell he has done nothing.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> He inherited good talent from a non English speaking coach who could recruit but not coach.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> I suspect you will have another 8 win season next year then maybe a 7 win the next and after that you all will fall off the map because Nutt can not recruit.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> He proved that at Arkansas.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> What good talent he got, who have come to Arkansas anyways.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> Look at Arkansas now.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> He was there how many years?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> One year remove they have no talent and they sux *** worst then Miss State.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span> He knew it that why he hook up on their asses just like he is going to do your school.</p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"></p>

<span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"> Your asses are in a bind and your dumb *** fans are so color blind by that Readers Digest National Championship you got back in the 60's, you can't see it. <br style="mso-special-character: line-break"> <br style="mso-special-character: line-break"> Rant Over!</span> </p>
 

OMlawdog

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I thought there were other coaches that would be better hires, I think gil would be a better hire. Coach has Wilson ahead of other coaches that I listed above, I think that is crazy.
 

Stormrider81

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Graham being a defensive guy with a terrible defense. A guy who has spent the past few years coaching at Tulsa and Rice. You would take him over an offensive guy with a ridiculously great offense coaching at a big time BCS program? I'm at a loss for words.

Now, I would take Petersen, Kelly, Patterson, and Whittingham over Wilson, but that's about it. He should be #5 on the list.
 

GloryDawg

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Stormrider81 said:
Graham being a defensive guy with a terrible defense. A guy who has spent the past few years coaching at Tulsa and Rice. You would take him over an offensive guy with a ridiculously great offense coaching at a big time BCS program? I'm at a loss for words.

Now, I would take Petersen, Kelly, Patterson, and Whittingham over Wilson, but that's about it. He should be #5 on the list.
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Wilson would be number 5 on my list as well. I have come to the conclusion that Wilson is our next coach. I have started rationalizing that fact in my head. I am starting to feel a little more at ease over that choice. I just hope that he gets some good assistant coaches around him.

He is at a winning program. He is coaching under a winning coach. I am sure he knows how to evaluate talent by now. So he could end up being that uncut diamond. I do hope that Byrd is smart with the money.</p>LR
 

RebelBruiser

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Yea, those weren't the best examples. However, my point was that I don't think you can call a coach a slam dunk or homerun hire unless he has previous head coaching experience. It doesn't mean that you can't have a coordinator turn out to be a great hire (see us with Tommy Tubberville), but you can't consider it a homerun. A homerun is the type of hire that makes everyone take notice (Saban, Meyer, Spurrier at SC, or even Neuheisal to some extent at UCLA and Rich Rodriguez at Michigan, though the early returns were poor).

If you hire Wilson, it may turn out to be a great hire, but it's not going to be the type of hire that immediately calls the attention of your fellow conference members. There isn't anything wrong with that though, because at Ole Miss and MSU, we're rarely if ever going to end up in a situation where we are able to land one of those slam dunk guys. Even Nutt, though a good hire, wasn't really a homerun in my eyes. I thought it was a solid hire, but it really didn't get me all that excited, and I don't think it struck fear in any of our fellow conference members.
 

patdog

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Seems to me that a coach who can recruit talented players would be an advantage for us, as opposed to a fatass who sits around and hopes talented players come to him.
 

8dog

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then pretty much every coach at the dominant school should be ruled out.
 

ARebel21

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Before you decide to rant against our fan base... and call them any number of names.

Might want to check your post a little bit... as to not make yourself look like an ignorant hick.
 

GloryDawg

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ARebel21 said:
Before you decide to rant against our fan base... and call them any number of names.

Might want to check your post a little bit... as to not make yourself look like an ignorant hick.
<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Anyone who has to log on to another college sports message board is the definition of one.</p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"></p>

</p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">However I can understand why you would want too being a Mississippi Rebel fan but you are still a looser.
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Dawgtini

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<span style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-hide: all"> </span></p> <table class="MsoNormalTable" style="BACKGROUND: white; WIDTH: 100%; mso-cellspacing: 1.5pt; mso-padding-bottom-alt: 0in" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"> <tbody> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 6pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 0.1in; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top" width="10"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 3pt 0in 12pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">3.</span></p> </td> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><font color="#4D4E51"><span class="ital-inline2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Slang</span></span><span class="labset3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">.</span></span> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">a misfit, esp. someone who has never or seldom been successful at a job, personal relationship, etc.</span></font></p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"></p>

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<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-outline-level: 3"> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #111111; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">loose</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Mincho'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">?</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">?</span><span style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'; mso-hide: all">/</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">lus</span></span></span></span><span style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'; mso-hide: all">/</span> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">Show Spelled Pronunciation <span style="DISPLAY: none; mso-hide: all"></a></span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">[</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">loos</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">]</span> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">Show IPA Pronunciation <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html"></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">
</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">adjective, loos?er, loos?est,</span> <span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">adverb, verb loosed, loos?ing.</span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #575757; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">-adjective</span></p> <table class="MsoNormalTable" style="BACKGROUND: white; WIDTH: 100%; mso-cellspacing: 1.5pt; mso-padding-bottom-alt: 0in" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"> <tbody> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 6pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 0.1in; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top" width="10"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 3pt 0in 12pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">1.</span></p> </td> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">free or released from fastening or attachment: a loose end.</span></p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"></p>

<span style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-hide: all"> </span></p> <table class="MsoNormalTable" style="BACKGROUND: white; WIDTH: 100%; mso-cellspacing: 1.5pt; mso-padding-bottom-alt: 0in" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"> <tbody> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 6pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 0.1in; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top" width="10"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 3pt 0in 12pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">2.</span></p> </td> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">free from anything that binds or restrains; unfettered: loose cats prowling around in alleyways at night.</span></p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"></p>

<span style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-hide: all"> </span></p> <table class="MsoNormalTable" style="BACKGROUND: white; WIDTH: 100%; mso-cellspacing: 1.5pt; mso-padding-bottom-alt: 0in" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"> <tbody> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 6pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 0.1in; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top" width="10"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 3pt 0in 12pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">3.</span></p> </td> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">uncombined, as a chemical element.</span></p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"></p>

<span style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-hide: all"> </span></p> <table class="MsoNormalTable" style="BACKGROUND: white; WIDTH: 100%; mso-cellspacing: 1.5pt; mso-padding-bottom-alt: 0in" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"> <tbody> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 6pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 0.1in; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top" width="10"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 3pt 0in 12pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">4.</span></p> </td> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">not bound together: to wear one's hair loose.</span></p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"></p>

<span style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-hide: all"> </span></p> <table class="MsoNormalTable" style="BACKGROUND: white; WIDTH: 100%; mso-cellspacing: 1.5pt; mso-padding-bottom-alt: 0in" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"> <tbody> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 6pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 0.1in; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top" width="10"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 3pt 0in 12pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">5.</span></p> </td> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">not put up in a package or other container: loose mushrooms.</span></p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"></p>

<span style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-hide: all"> </span></p> <table class="MsoNormalTable" style="BACKGROUND: white; WIDTH: 100%; mso-cellspacing: 1.5pt; mso-padding-bottom-alt: 0in" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"> <tbody> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 6pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 0.1in; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top" width="10"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 3pt 0in 12pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">6.</span></p> </td> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">available for disposal; unused; unappropriated: loose funds.</span></p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"></p>

<span style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-hide: all"> </span></p> <table class="MsoNormalTable" style="BACKGROUND: white; WIDTH: 100%; mso-cellspacing: 1.5pt; mso-padding-bottom-alt: 0in" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"> <tbody> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 6pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 0.1in; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top" width="10"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 3pt 0in 12pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">7.</span></p> </td> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">lacking in reticence or power of restraint: a loose tongue.</span></p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"></p>

<span style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-hide: all"> </span></p> <table class="MsoNormalTable" style="BACKGROUND: white; WIDTH: 100%; mso-cellspacing: 1.5pt; mso-padding-bottom-alt: 0in" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"> <tbody> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 6pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 0.1in; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top" width="10"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 3pt 0in 12pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #00ffff">8.</font></span></p> </td> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #00ffff">lax, as the bowels.</font></span></p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"></p>

<span style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-hide: all"> </span></p> <table class="MsoNormalTable" style="BACKGROUND: white; WIDTH: 100%; mso-cellspacing: 1.5pt; mso-padding-bottom-alt: 0in" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"> <tbody> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 6pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 0.1in; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top" width="10"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 3pt 0in 12pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">9.</span></p> </td> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">lacking moral restraint or integrity; notorious for his loose character.</span></p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"></p>

<span style="DISPLAY: none; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-hide: all"> </span></p> <table class="MsoNormalTable" style="BACKGROUND: white; WIDTH: 100%; mso-cellspacing: 1.5pt; mso-padding-bottom-alt: 0in" cellpadding="0" width="100%" border="0"> <tbody> <tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 6pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; WIDTH: 0.1in; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top" width="10"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 3pt 0in 12pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #00ffcc"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #00ffcc"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #00ffcc"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #00ffcc">10</font></span></font></span></font></span>.</font></span></p> </td> <td style="BORDER-RIGHT: #ece9d8; PADDING-RIGHT: 0.75pt; BORDER-TOP: #ece9d8; PADDING-LEFT: 0.75pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: #ece9d8; PADDING-TOP: 0.75pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" valign="top"> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #4d4e51; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #00ffcc">sexually promiscuous or immoral; unchaste.</font></span></p> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"></p>

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