I got something to say, and didn't want it to get buried in the Dixon thread. What happened at Cowbells last night is a microcosim of what our problem is. The problem with Starkville is that many of the business owners are small time people, that lack a big picture view, and stick to dumb principles without ever considering what is in the greater good of the town and its businesses. When Texas' athletes go down to 6th street in Austin, they are treated like GODS, when OM athletes go to the square the same, and pretty much everywhere else the same holds true. It doesn't take a genius business person to figure out the benifits. The businesses in Starkville exist because of the university, and the bigger and better the university gets, the more successful the businesses should be. You don't have to treat everyone the same, because everyone isn't the same. If our ex football players have a good time in Starkville, then they will want to come back more often, which may lead to them giving money down the road. Furthermore, if our athletes are treated like gods in the town, that is noticed by recruits and makes them more likely to come here. All this leads to better athletic programs and more fans coming to town. All of which, leads to Starkville area businesses being more successful. I hope Cowbells and every other Starkville area business realizes that there wouldn't have been 14.5 thousand people at the baseball game yesterday if our baseball team sucked. The success of our athletic program directly affects the success or lack there of of local businesses. It's time for our local businesses to understand that and stop shitting where they eat. We know our problem and need to take any action necessary to bring Starkville area businesses into the 21st century.
What the 17 is wrong with SOME Starkville businesses?
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True story.
And for them to defend their stance publicly shows how truly stupid their "business sense" is. Apologize or don't say anything at all. They don't realize they'll probably lose more customers than they will make happy by "treating everyone equally". If Anthony Dixon walks in your bar, you should be going far out of your way to make sure that guy enjoys his stay. It only benefits you if he does.
AD's statements about taxi service are true, too. It's really poor. Had a wedding in Starkville a month or two ago. Contracted with a taxi service to make sure everyone would have a ride from the reception to the bar. We'd hoped to use the night route buses, but that didn't work out. So instead some taxi service sent one van to pick everyone up in- squeezed over 20 people in it. Told us they'd be back soon- 30 minutes later, no van in sight. Groom's parents drove the rest of the people home.
I offered to drop a few people off after the dad dropped me off so he could go get more. Dropped them off a few blocks from Zorba's, pulled up at a red light- next to me was the taxi driver. 45 minutes later on what is tops a 10 minute drive from the Country Club to downtown. That matters when your bars close at 1AM. Instead of enjoying an hour or two at the bar, we just had to go home. Ridiculous- no telling what they paid to reserve them.
And for them to defend their stance publicly shows how truly stupid their "business sense" is. Apologize or don't say anything at all. They don't realize they'll probably lose more customers than they will make happy by "treating everyone equally". If Anthony Dixon walks in your bar, you should be going far out of your way to make sure that guy enjoys his stay. It only benefits you if he does.
AD's statements about taxi service are true, too. It's really poor. Had a wedding in Starkville a month or two ago. Contracted with a taxi service to make sure everyone would have a ride from the reception to the bar. We'd hoped to use the night route buses, but that didn't work out. So instead some taxi service sent one van to pick everyone up in- squeezed over 20 people in it. Told us they'd be back soon- 30 minutes later, no van in sight. Groom's parents drove the rest of the people home.
I offered to drop a few people off after the dad dropped me off so he could go get more. Dropped them off a few blocks from Zorba's, pulled up at a red light- next to me was the taxi driver. 45 minutes later on what is tops a 10 minute drive from the Country Club to downtown. That matters when your bars close at 1AM. Instead of enjoying an hour or two at the bar, we just had to go home. Ridiculous- no telling what they paid to reserve them.
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cowbells come out and defend their actions? I don't follow them on twitter. They're bar sucks and their bouncers are generally douches.
cowbells come out and defend their actions? I don't follow them on twitter. They're bar sucks and their bouncers are generally douches.
They tweeted back at him twice.
Here is one:
CowbellsSportsGrill (@CowbellsSports)
4/21/13, 3:21 AM
@Boobie24Dixon sorry we treat every customer equal...NFL Player or not. Every customer is important. We didn't let a lot of folks in.
Here is one:
CowbellsSportsGrill (@CowbellsSports)
4/21/13, 3:21 AM
@Boobie24Dixon sorry we treat every customer equal...NFL Player or not. Every customer is important. We didn't let a lot of folks in.
I guess they deleted the one telling him "sorry you think you're better than everyone else".
They are, and I never frequented their bar to begin with- went twice when they first opened. But that's one of a few reasons why they have a bad reputation.
CowbellsSportsGrill<s style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(187, 187, 187); ">@</s>CowbellsSports<small class="time" style="font-size: 12px; color: rgb(187, 187, 187); position: relative; float: right; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 5px; ">11h</small>
<s style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(102, 181, 210); ">@</s>boobie24dixon sorry we treat every customer equal...NFL Player or not. Every customer is important. We didn't let a lot of folks in.
“<s style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(226, 127, 153); ">@</s>CowbellsSports: <s style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(226, 127, 153); ">@</s>Boobie24Dixon sorry if you think your more special than any other person…but we treat everyone the same.” You’re*
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They are, and I never frequented their bar to begin with- went twice when they first opened. But that's one of a few reasons why they have a bad reputation.
CowbellsSportsGrill<s style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(187, 187, 187); ">@</s>CowbellsSports<small class="time" style="font-size: 12px; color: rgb(187, 187, 187); position: relative; float: right; margin-top: 1px; margin-right: 5px; ">11h</small>
<s style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(102, 181, 210); ">@</s>boobie24dixon sorry we treat every customer equal...NFL Player or not. Every customer is important. We didn't let a lot of folks in.
“<s style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(226, 127, 153); ">@</s>CowbellsSports: <s style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(226, 127, 153); ">@</s>Boobie24Dixon sorry if you think your more special than any other person…but we treat everyone the same.” You’re*
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Things have gotten better, but I haven't been to Cowbells in years, and after hearing this story, I will never set foot in that place again. These businesses really don't fully understand the success they have simply because of the access to the university and it's students. Successful business in college towns feed off that relationship and do everything they can to take advantage of it. Instead of making AD sit out in the parking lot and tweeting that **** at him, they SHOULD have brought him in and made a huge production out of it. Cowbells has sucked for a long time, but only had success because people could smoke in there and they can stay open till 3 am (no other bar in town can do that). So instead of taking advantage of their position, they lost customers because they just don't get it.
People who have lived in Starkville or have been here through the summer/winter breaks know exactly how much the University impacts the local economy. Starkville wouldn't be even half of what it is without it. Even inspite of that, very few businesses even try to set themselves apart and make people WANT to go there, instead, they just throw some flyers up around town and hope people see them. Pretty ******, if you ask me...
People who have lived in Starkville or have been here through the summer/winter breaks know exactly how much the University impacts the local economy. Starkville wouldn't be even half of what it is without it. Even inspite of that, very few businesses even try to set themselves apart and make people WANT to go there, instead, they just throw some flyers up around town and hope people see them. Pretty ******, if you ask me...
Adding to what you said, bars and restaurants pay celebrities millions of dollars each year to have them come hang out or promote their business.
It is just terrible 17'n business to turn down a celerity or professional athlete when they want to come to your bar.
It is just terrible 17'n business to turn down a celerity or professional athlete when they want to come to your bar.
Let me preface this by saying, I'm playing devil's advocate. I don't think it's business savvy to piss off someone with 40000+ twitter followers, much less one as beloved as Boobie in a small college town. But if there were 60 people in line, some of which had to be regulars, are you gonna piss that many people off for someone that you know is only going to visit your establishment twice a year tops. Again, I'm not defending the decision just trying to understand what could possibly influence them to make such a bad decision.
I think most would understand why AD is getting in over them. They might be mad about it, but it is what it is.
That guy reps our university tremendously. He always comes back, always makes himself available for public appearances, signs autographs, takes pictures, etc. the entire time he's there. He hangs out with the students and enjoys himself.
He did a lot for us, and he deserves a little special treatment.
I guarantee they lost more business by pulling that rather than letting him in over some regulars that live out there and wouldn't be going anywhere else anyway.
That guy reps our university tremendously. He always comes back, always makes himself available for public appearances, signs autographs, takes pictures, etc. the entire time he's there. He hangs out with the students and enjoys himself.
He did a lot for us, and he deserves a little special treatment.
I guarantee they lost more business by pulling that rather than letting him in over some regulars that live out there and wouldn't be going anywhere else anyway.
People would definitely understand. I mean who wouldn't? That's just the way the world works. Celebs and athletes get preferential treatment over normal people especially at bars and restaurants.
I doubt anyone would have cared if Anthony cut in line to go inside.
I doubt anyone would have cared if Anthony cut in line to go inside.
That's just what I was thinking. A bar that doesn't let hometown celebrities in and then brags about it by calling them out? Great business style there.
Show the power of 6 Pack.... Urbanspoon needs some additional reviews for this restaurant.
http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/211/1414210/restaurant/Mississippi/Cowbells-Starkville
http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/211/1414210/restaurant/Mississippi/Cowbells-Starkville
Boobie could have spent in one night what one regular could spend in a couple months.
It would have been worth it just to have pictures of him partying in your bar and then frame it. Put him behind the bar for ten minutes pouring shots for fun and see how many people order one. Tons of opportunity.
I can't see one damn reason to rationally not let him in immediately.
It would have been worth it just to have pictures of him partying in your bar and then frame it. Put him behind the bar for ten minutes pouring shots for fun and see how many people order one. Tons of opportunity.
I can't see one damn reason to rationally not let him in immediately.
Yeah in the other thread somebody said there wasn't a line and one of the guys said "we don't want any trouble." Probably a bouncer that thinks its cool to not let a nfl running back in. Good luck with that ****.
I don't want the original purpose of my post to get lost. I didn't post in effort to condemn Cowbells. I posted so that every business in Starkville gets the freaking message.
Starkville should be a haven for former athletes and current ones. These kids get paid nothing for what they do at our university, yet every business in town benefits from them. Starkville should be a place that "appreciates" its athletes. Not a place that acts like they never did anything that benefited the city.
Starkville should be a haven for former athletes and current ones. These kids get paid nothing for what they do at our university, yet every business in town benefits from them. Starkville should be a place that "appreciates" its athletes. Not a place that acts like they never did anything that benefited the city.
Yep.
This is a good "letter to the editor" type of topic.
It's not the point of treating them like they're better than anyone else; even AD said he didn't want to sound like a brat. It's showing appreciation for the things they've done. AD does a ton of things for Starkville.
Making the point that he should have been there earlier- maybe so. But he was probably around town taking pictures and signing autographs. Someone said he spent a good 45 minutes signing autographs at the football game. And I've seen tons of pictures of him from the weekend.
Plus- no telling how many times he was the only bright spot of a game, or was the decisive factor in a win. I know I went out several times celebrating a game he played in, and I appreciated the hell out of that because I didn't get to do that a whole lot when I was a student there.
This is a good "letter to the editor" type of topic.
It's not the point of treating them like they're better than anyone else; even AD said he didn't want to sound like a brat. It's showing appreciation for the things they've done. AD does a ton of things for Starkville.
Making the point that he should have been there earlier- maybe so. But he was probably around town taking pictures and signing autographs. Someone said he spent a good 45 minutes signing autographs at the football game. And I've seen tons of pictures of him from the weekend.
Plus- no telling how many times he was the only bright spot of a game, or was the decisive factor in a win. I know I went out several times celebrating a game he played in, and I appreciated the hell out of that because I didn't get to do that a whole lot when I was a student there.
Let me play devil's advocate... Say you are the owner of a bar in Starkville and your establishment was packed and at maximum capacity due to fire codes. A line of 60 people trying to get in see Boobie walking in ahead of everyone.
Meanwhile, some unrelated dubmass throws a cig on the floor and the whole place catches on fire and people are seriously hurt or possibly worse... 60 people saw Boobie walk in putting the restaurant at violation of fire codes. And it doesnt really matter if they just bumped him to the front of the line, every witness may say something different, or didnt notice they let one-in and one-out. That guy would be paying off lawsuits for as long as his family name exists.
Just playing devil's advocate
Meanwhile, some unrelated dubmass throws a cig on the floor and the whole place catches on fire and people are seriously hurt or possibly worse... 60 people saw Boobie walk in putting the restaurant at violation of fire codes. And it doesnt really matter if they just bumped him to the front of the line, every witness may say something different, or didnt notice they let one-in and one-out. That guy would be paying off lawsuits for as long as his family name exists.
Just playing devil's advocate
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Thats why you bring them through the kitchen or some other way. Surely some people were leaving. Just move Boobie to the front of the line. To say that the number of people in the bar was exactly the same for some extended period time is probably being naive .
I am not calling for any laws to be broken. I am just advocating for common sense to be used in our college town. We should accommodate athletes as much as legally possible. Anything less is stupid
Exactly. And I bet that son of a ***** is wishing he'd have let him in today, now that his bar is heading down the ******* based on all of the talk today. Hope it was worth it, dipshits.
Him not getting in last night could potentially be the best thing to happen to Starkville in a long time. He seems pretty serious about owning a bar/restaurant in Starkville now. Inception and stuff. He was never going to have that idea without that happening.
Can you imagine a Boobie owned State Theater or revamped Level III?
Can you imagine a Boobie owned State Theater or revamped Level III?
Im not saying I disagree with you, but
another perspective is the way players from Texas and OM are viewed by NFL teams. I've mentioned a couple times on here that my brother in law has been an NFL scout for 12 years. He has told me several times that if you play at Texas you're automatically treated like a god on campus and that is a black eye on you to the NFL. The player instantly has to overcome the fact the scouts will think he's a prima donna *****. (Vince Young, Ricky Williams, and Im sure there are many that went the other way too)
OM- He says they think you're dumb automatically. (Powe taking tests using illustrations)
Bama- He says instant credibility if you play for Saban. He'd rather have an average NFL caliber player from a Saban coached team than a top caliber NFL player from Texas.
Again, just a different perspective. I'd rather local businesses not treat these guys like total gods, but also show some appreciation at the same time. Somewhere in the middle is probably best.
another perspective is the way players from Texas and OM are viewed by NFL teams. I've mentioned a couple times on here that my brother in law has been an NFL scout for 12 years. He has told me several times that if you play at Texas you're automatically treated like a god on campus and that is a black eye on you to the NFL. The player instantly has to overcome the fact the scouts will think he's a prima donna *****. (Vince Young, Ricky Williams, and Im sure there are many that went the other way too)
OM- He says they think you're dumb automatically. (Powe taking tests using illustrations)
Bama- He says instant credibility if you play for Saban. He'd rather have an average NFL caliber player from a Saban coached team than a top caliber NFL player from Texas.
Again, just a different perspective. I'd rather local businesses not treat these guys like total gods, but also show some appreciation at the same time. Somewhere in the middle is probably best.
Seriously, you tell some people it's time to go home. Then you say, "Mr. Boobie we're constructing a VIP section for you as we speak. Would you like a drink while you wait." Negative publicity is 10Xs stronger than positive publicity.
On the original thread's intent: business owners have to realize that big money doesn't come in through the students. It comes in when the university has events. Starkville needs an image that that says it can be a fun place to enjoy the weekend, not just an event.
On the original thread's intent: business owners have to realize that big money doesn't come in through the students. It comes in when the university has events. Starkville needs an image that that says it can be a fun place to enjoy the weekend, not just an event.