Now that SEC play is starting, I'm going to start doing this on maroonandwhitenation.com
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What we learned special USM midweek edition
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If 2/3 of the stadium was maroon what was the other 1/3, white? I know there only could have been one row of gold based on total fanbase numbers alone.
Yea the crowd was awesome last night, and it was a good atmosphere. It's amazing how much better those Trustmark Park games are when the Dawgs are a good team. I don't think we will see 10,000 up there this weekend, but Friday night's game will have a lot to say about that. If we win Friday night, there will be a lot of people wanting to make the trip up Saturday. Our fans are weird like that, but maybe all fan bases do it.
By the way, what a 17ing piss rocket that HR by Renfroe was! That ball was smoked. The wind had died down a bit, but it was still 57 degrees with a slight wind blowing in....not ideal conditions to be hitting shots like that. I was impressed.
Good write up.
By the way, what a 17ing piss rocket that HR by Renfroe was! That ball was smoked. The wind had died down a bit, but it was still 57 degrees with a slight wind blowing in....not ideal conditions to be hitting shots like that. I was impressed.
Good write up.
The more I see from this team against other opponents, the more I think that Central Arkansas was just a very, very good team. I know that we had our chances, got hosed by the ump in game 2, etc... but MSU has left a lot of teams bloodied and bruised this season while we just couldn't ever seem to get much momentum going against CA. People can blame it on self inflicted wounds all they want, but that's a sign of an outstanding ball club to me.
Todd, I know you mentioned several times prior to the weekend that we shouldn't underestimate them, but how good do you really think they are? Could they make some noise in the postseason?
Todd, I know you mentioned several times prior to the weekend that we shouldn't underestimate them, but how good do you really think they are? Could they make some noise in the postseason?
Hang on- you mean, we ****ed and junk and it opened us up a little more? How novel.
FTR, don't care for the being right/wrong junk. Just making the point that ****ing is part of the game for a reason, and I think we do better when we stick with what has gotten us where we are. I don't like getting away from our approach at the plate, because it's not who we are- that's letting someone else control what we do. Do the things you know to do, control how you play, and let it play out.
I like the mixture. Keeps everyone honest and it gives you more weapons and allows you to strategize the way you want to.
FTR, don't care for the being right/wrong junk. Just making the point that ****ing is part of the game for a reason, and I think we do better when we stick with what has gotten us where we are. I don't like getting away from our approach at the plate, because it's not who we are- that's letting someone else control what we do. Do the things you know to do, control how you play, and let it play out.
I like the mixture. Keeps everyone honest and it gives you more weapons and allows you to strategize the way you want to.
And I don't want to get into a discussion about ****ing either, so help us God. Just point blank, it doesn't hurt us like some say.
Yes, UCA was a good team. I only saw Sunday's game, but they are really disciplined, well-coached, and I think their SS could play at most SEC schools. I thought he was pretty smooth in the field. They played us smart and we didn't take the smartest AB's, nor did we adjust to the umpire. And just played bad all the way around. They deserved it, and credit them with not only being a good team, but a smart team.
Yes, UCA was a good team. I only saw Sunday's game, but they are really disciplined, well-coached, and I think their SS could play at most SEC schools. I thought he was pretty smooth in the field. They played us smart and we didn't take the smartest AB's, nor did we adjust to the umpire. And just played bad all the way around. They deserved it, and credit them with not only being a good team, but a smart team.
Yeah, the days of a regular season blowout attendance left when the Saturday double-headers did. Only way we'll get those numbers again would be to host regionals like 2007.
I would love to think they are great and all, but they were 24-30 last year in the Southland Conference. Funny enough, they beat us last year too, but lost to Ole Miss twice and Texas. Split with Missouri.
I think they have a good coach, but for us to say they are more than an average talented team with some upperclassmen is just rationalizing. We just thought we were hot **** and played like it. We should not have lost to them. But there again, better last weekend to get our heads deflated and screwed back on again, than an SEC weekend, or even worse, a regional weekend.
I think they have a good coach, but for us to say they are more than an average talented team with some upperclassmen is just rationalizing. We just thought we were hot **** and played like it. We should not have lost to them. But there again, better last weekend to get our heads deflated and screwed back on again, than an SEC weekend, or even worse, a regional weekend.
I agree on the crowd. I think it will be a good crowd but I wouldn't expect anywhere near 10,000. MSU baseball is still certianly popular but it doesn't seem to be the IT thing to be at like it was back in the 80s and 90s. I think we can get back to that though if Cohen can really get this thing rolling where we are a perennial Top 15-20 type team every year.
Agree that loss of the SEC Saturday DH was a HUGE impact on our crowds because we have a lot of fans that have to travel to get to Dudy Noble. Hanging out at the Dude all day made traveling 2 to 3 hours just to get there worth it. Of all the things that RP did that pissed me off, supporting elimination of the Saturday DHs ranks at the top.
No. Having a consistently good program was the key to the huge crowds. We had great crowds for several years after the change to the Fri-Sat-Sun format. Crowds have been down for a decade because the program has been mediocre at best. Now that the program is back on its feet, you're going to see big crowds again this spring. Losing the double headers is WAY overrated. People conviently ignore the fact that until the last 5 years or so, the double headers were two 7-inning games. That's a game and a half, not two games. Even in the last 5 years or so, one of the games was only 7 innings. The current format is much better.
I hope you're right. Guess we'll see over the next few weeks.
I also think a big part of the problem was people forgetting about MSU baseball. It wasn't just us struggling due to Polk being a gnome and LT being a cheap dipshit......it was Ole Miss and Southern Miss building their programs and becoming the popular teams in Mississippi, resulting in a lot of the younger fans associating them with good baseball similar to what we did in the 80s and 90s. Our fanbase, on the other hand, has died out. We essentially missed a decade of fans.
I also think a big part of the problem was people forgetting about MSU baseball. It wasn't just us struggling due to Polk being a gnome and LT being a cheap dipshit......it was Ole Miss and Southern Miss building their programs and becoming the popular teams in Mississippi, resulting in a lot of the younger fans associating them with good baseball similar to what we did in the 80s and 90s. Our fanbase, on the other hand, has died out. We essentially missed a decade of fans.
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All I'm going to say is that it's not all ****s like you people try to say. It's the moving one runner over ****s. It DOES hurt us, the numbers are more than enough evidence of that. I especially don't like anyone hitting in front of Renfroe getting out on purpose. Exactly what was the point of the first inning **** besides maybe costing us a run? Why do that in the first. When ****ing you are playing for one or two. We ended up with a big inning DESPITE the out. Which means it was meaningless. We scored 13 runs, we ****ed once. Damn that felt good writing that I bet "haha Will James see see" when you dont want to look at (or even watch apparently since you only saw Sunday) just this past Saturdays 2nd and 3rd innings, or the last game of the season last year. I figured all our runs tonight would give you the impression, hey let's not make outs because we can hit. Even Hann got a hit!
There are times for sac ****ing but it is not a weapon. Dragging is. Don't get them confused by being willfully ignorant. Our only sac **** this game was dumb especially with Henderson who in the past has struggled getting ****s down.
On another note this is why Renfroe should be in the 4 hole. Detz is a freaking on base machine. Combined Frazier Hendo Detz and Renfroe had 11 of our 13 runs. Very likely 12 of 14 if Hendo wasn't wasted in the 1st. You want those 3 great on base guys before Renfroes big bat every time through the order.
Besides that * Cohen did really well tonight. I HATE seeing the 3rd out at 3rd constantly especially when a guy with Renfroes speed could easily score from 2nd.
Only post regarding this*
Great write up Todd. Bookmarked the site
I think 10k will be hard this weekend but I think we'll break 10k this season if we stay in top 10-15.
I think 10k will be hard this weekend but I think we'll break 10k this season if we stay in top 10-15.
Thanks, I know the logic behind using the ****. I've been involved in baseball my entire life.
Period, stats are nice to use, but you have to make them apply to YOUR team. We have the personnel to hit more this year than last, yes. We still thrive when we mix in some small ball because we know how to play it.
Period, stats are nice to use, but you have to make them apply to YOUR team. We have the personnel to hit more this year than last, yes. We still thrive when we mix in some small ball because we know how to play it.
We had over 9100 for Purdue a few weekends ago. I think you guys are underestimating our baseball fanbase. I think there are people out there that wait on a big series, like LSU, to go up for a game. And yes, I do realize it is spring break.
They count every season ticket as "attended" Id like for them to actually be here this weekend.
Being absolutely horrible in basketball has really helped bring fans to baseball games. Do you think Stans would have had to beg Cohen to move one of his games so that kids would show up to watch the Ole Miss game? It would have been the other way around. As much as we're a "baseball school" basketball still has more [casual] fans.
Even some of my buddies who give zero ***** about baseball have been at every game so far only because, and this is a direct quote from more than a few people "it's nice to be good at something"...
So being good at baseball and horrible in basketball (main competition at the beginning, and being horrible has left a bad taste in students' mouths) has really helped.
The DHs going away WERE a big factor but certainly only one of several. Obviously the decline of the program was a big factor as well. People are naturally going to go more out of their way to travel and support a winner than they will when a program falls to mediocrity. However, even though we had some good SEC weekend crowds even after DH was eliminated, people began to taper off and by the late 90s most of the huge crowds were for regionals or a BIG SEC weekend. In the 80s and early 90s there were big crowds EVERY weekend but of course we were VERY good and MSU football and basketball sucked for the most part back in those days.
That was paid attendance, and that was also the cumulative number for the DH. There was probably never more than 6000 bodies there at one time.
It looks to be about 75 this weekend, and I suspect most students that would come anyway will start trickling back in for the games. I say we might get 7500 actual on Saturday, if we win Friday.
It looks to be about 75 this weekend, and I suspect most students that would come anyway will start trickling back in for the games. I say we might get 7500 actual on Saturday, if we win Friday.
Interesting analysis
Just scanning through your roster, you seem to be moving OUT of Mississippi for recruiting, like Ole Miss and USM started to do. Granted, I don't know when all of those guys got to State but it looked like almost all of your position players are from outside the state.
Ole Miss moved out of the state years back and USM started to do the same with the exception of the Robbins, Barron, Ellis class which was an unusually good year for the state. The state's HS ranks don't seem to be producing nearly as well as they used to--certainly not as much depth.
FYI, our (USM's) recruiting under Berry has blown anything we had out of Palmer out of the water. Remember, we had the #3 recruiting class in the nation a couple years ago with the aforementioned guys plus Roney and Kline who were top prospects from AL and LA respectively. Ellis and Barron are always hurt, but our main problem is an inability to DEVELOP the talent. This program is in deep trouble right now. Our coaching staff cannot develop players and are asking them to do too much (trying to turn half of our players into utility guys). They are frustrated (as several turned down a ton of money) that they aren't developing or winning. So, we have a demoralized underachieving class that we have bet everything on and we can't do much recruiting because there are so many underclassmen.
I know we are little Mississippi Southern and you guys don't give a fu--er 17 but I'm cranky and pissed off....plus it is an great case study on the importance of having coaches who can develop recruits. Our best teams, especially that CWS team and the 2011 team that bottomed out after injuries and suspensions, were built on fairly underwhelming recruiting classes.
Congrats on your program's comeback. Baseball is different to me and I love having all three teams state playing at a high level. I just wish we could follow suit.
PS- Renfroe is a beast.
Just scanning through your roster, you seem to be moving OUT of Mississippi for recruiting, like Ole Miss and USM started to do. Granted, I don't know when all of those guys got to State but it looked like almost all of your position players are from outside the state.
Ole Miss moved out of the state years back and USM started to do the same with the exception of the Robbins, Barron, Ellis class which was an unusually good year for the state. The state's HS ranks don't seem to be producing nearly as well as they used to--certainly not as much depth.
FYI, our (USM's) recruiting under Berry has blown anything we had out of Palmer out of the water. Remember, we had the #3 recruiting class in the nation a couple years ago with the aforementioned guys plus Roney and Kline who were top prospects from AL and LA respectively. Ellis and Barron are always hurt, but our main problem is an inability to DEVELOP the talent. This program is in deep trouble right now. Our coaching staff cannot develop players and are asking them to do too much (trying to turn half of our players into utility guys). They are frustrated (as several turned down a ton of money) that they aren't developing or winning. So, we have a demoralized underachieving class that we have bet everything on and we can't do much recruiting because there are so many underclassmen.
I know we are little Mississippi Southern and you guys don't give a fu--er 17 but I'm cranky and pissed off....plus it is an great case study on the importance of having coaches who can develop recruits. Our best teams, especially that CWS team and the 2011 team that bottomed out after injuries and suspensions, were built on fairly underwhelming recruiting classes.
Congrats on your program's comeback. Baseball is different to me and I love having all three teams state playing at a high level. I just wish we could follow suit.
PS- Renfroe is a beast.
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One thing we learned that needs to be corrected...
..got thrown at @ 3rd twice last night (maybe have been more; I only remember the 2 instances). Beating the crap out of a mediocre USM team is a good dose of medicine after the CA debacle. Nobody will deny that. But please stop getting thrown out at 3rd. That's the cardinal sin of baseball.
..got thrown at @ 3rd twice last night (maybe have been more; I only remember the 2 instances). Beating the crap out of a mediocre USM team is a good dose of medicine after the CA debacle. Nobody will deny that. But please stop getting thrown out at 3rd. That's the cardinal sin of baseball.
We take WAY too many foolish chances on the bases like our baserunners taking off when the ball only gets away from the catcher a few feet. We've had runners thrown out at 2nd and 3rd continually this year due to that and last night Detz got thrown out at home due to that. We go beyond being aggressive to being stupid and it needs to stop but it won't. And I say it won't because I've never heard one time Cohen state anything about us needing to make smarter decisions on the basepaths in post games or other places. Apparently he is absolutely fine with us throwing away outs in that manner.
Let's not lose sight
That this is more about overall philiosophy rather than just ****ing. We have players that have a certain attitude and aptitude and the way we play fits that attitude and aptitude. Asking them to not do something restricts them, and that is not good. And it could be asking them to not steal- so again, it's not just limited to ****ing. The 1985 MSU team had a totally different aptitude and asking them to play small ball would have been asking them to do something that they aren't comfortable with. That's one thing stats don't capture when you are looking at something across an entire league- the individual human element. You have to do what your players can do and what fits them.
That **** was a key play to me, because it helped trigger a four run inning and set the tone for the night. It got our players back in the right frame of mind for them, and the result was 13 runs. One thing we do not know is what would have happened if Demarcus had swung the bat- it could have been a home run, and on the other end of the spectrum it could have been a double play. I think it was a positive play because what it did is move Frazier into a position where he could possibly tag up and it may have given USM's CF something else to think about when he was trying to find the ball Detz popped up and lost it. Then Renfroe gets a double and we start rolling. Once we got a big lead, there was no need for us to ****.
And to be fair, I think you should have also mentioned that despite USM being way down all night- they actually ****ed TWICE- which to me is a bad play because when you are down you need baserunners.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Renfroe was one of the guys that was thrown out at third on one of those occasions? I do agree that the base running was a little spotty, but one of those outfield assists was Trey Porter trying to leg out a triple late when we were way up and he tripped. One time was a strike em out throw em out where Norris struck out on a 3-2 count and we basically gambled by putting the runners in motion trying to distract the pitcher and maybe steal another run if it worked out.
That this is more about overall philiosophy rather than just ****ing. We have players that have a certain attitude and aptitude and the way we play fits that attitude and aptitude. Asking them to not do something restricts them, and that is not good. And it could be asking them to not steal- so again, it's not just limited to ****ing. The 1985 MSU team had a totally different aptitude and asking them to play small ball would have been asking them to do something that they aren't comfortable with. That's one thing stats don't capture when you are looking at something across an entire league- the individual human element. You have to do what your players can do and what fits them.
That **** was a key play to me, because it helped trigger a four run inning and set the tone for the night. It got our players back in the right frame of mind for them, and the result was 13 runs. One thing we do not know is what would have happened if Demarcus had swung the bat- it could have been a home run, and on the other end of the spectrum it could have been a double play. I think it was a positive play because what it did is move Frazier into a position where he could possibly tag up and it may have given USM's CF something else to think about when he was trying to find the ball Detz popped up and lost it. Then Renfroe gets a double and we start rolling. Once we got a big lead, there was no need for us to ****.
And to be fair, I think you should have also mentioned that despite USM being way down all night- they actually ****ed TWICE- which to me is a bad play because when you are down you need baserunners.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Renfroe was one of the guys that was thrown out at third on one of those occasions? I do agree that the base running was a little spotty, but one of those outfield assists was Trey Porter trying to leg out a triple late when we were way up and he tripped. One time was a strike em out throw em out where Norris struck out on a 3-2 count and we basically gambled by putting the runners in motion trying to distract the pitcher and maybe steal another run if it worked out.
I think they are a good mid major
And someone at work today told me that they were picked to win the Southland Conference. But, that said- I still think we should have won that series and I think the players would agree with me on that. I think they are better than USM.
And someone at work today told me that they were picked to win the Southland Conference. But, that said- I still think we should have won that series and I think the players would agree with me on that. I think they are better than USM.
As far as Mississippi goes
You have to look at the context. Mississippi as a state probably produces 8-10 legit D-I prospects a year on average. That's barely enough to fill out an entire team, and then you have to in MSU's case compete with Ole Miss, USM, and MLB for those ten players. So, if we can get six to eight of the top players every year, then we are doing good. Some of it is evaluation of talent- making sure that MSU identifies those top players and lands them.
So, that's not to say that MSU ISN'T recruiting out of state- just that we are identifying the in state talent better, and maybe developing it better. You look at MSU's recruiting class coming up- Reid Humphries, Vance Tatum, Jacob Billingsley, Zac Houston, and then in later classes we have Luke Alexander, Keegan James, Austin Riley, and Kyle Self committed who are all Mississippians.
MSU has to recruit out of state, or we are barely going to have a team. Memphis, Louisiana, and Alabama are also very important, and then spread in a few players from the high baseball population states.
It's not a coincidence that when you went to Omaha, your top players were guys like Todd MacInnis, Brain Dozier, Bo Davis, B.A. Vollmuth, and that when Ole Miss built up their program it was with guys like Stephen Head, Seth Smith, Brian Pettway, Brae Wright, Will Kline, and etc.
For the record I agree with you about Berry. I always thought he was in over his head and it was only a matter of time before this happened. Good luck going forward and thanks for the insightful post even though I know you are not happy right now.
You have to look at the context. Mississippi as a state probably produces 8-10 legit D-I prospects a year on average. That's barely enough to fill out an entire team, and then you have to in MSU's case compete with Ole Miss, USM, and MLB for those ten players. So, if we can get six to eight of the top players every year, then we are doing good. Some of it is evaluation of talent- making sure that MSU identifies those top players and lands them.
So, that's not to say that MSU ISN'T recruiting out of state- just that we are identifying the in state talent better, and maybe developing it better. You look at MSU's recruiting class coming up- Reid Humphries, Vance Tatum, Jacob Billingsley, Zac Houston, and then in later classes we have Luke Alexander, Keegan James, Austin Riley, and Kyle Self committed who are all Mississippians.
MSU has to recruit out of state, or we are barely going to have a team. Memphis, Louisiana, and Alabama are also very important, and then spread in a few players from the high baseball population states.
It's not a coincidence that when you went to Omaha, your top players were guys like Todd MacInnis, Brain Dozier, Bo Davis, B.A. Vollmuth, and that when Ole Miss built up their program it was with guys like Stephen Head, Seth Smith, Brian Pettway, Brae Wright, Will Kline, and etc.
For the record I agree with you about Berry. I always thought he was in over his head and it was only a matter of time before this happened. Good luck going forward and thanks for the insightful post even though I know you are not happy right now.
I can understand your frustration, Gus. I have been perplexed as to the lack of success for USM so far. I still think you guys will get it going and be in the hunt for postseason play when all is said and done just because of the talent in the program. It is still amazing to me how all 3 of our D1 universities remain as solid as we do in baseball. However, out of around 39 players on our roster, I believe there are 11 from Mississippi. So you have to go out of state to be successful over the long haul. As Todd said though, getting those half dozen top in-state prospects is VERY important.
See I dont believe in tones or 'attitudes' in baseball at all. "Attitide" does not compute when I am thinking about what I want a player to do. It's a results oriented business first and foremost.
Hendersons **** was only positive if it is positive every single time in the first inning. It's never positive in my opinion there and I feel we wasted an out. Henderson is not a good ****er.
You are right about their ****s. Just idiotic coaching that I don't understand. UCA did the same **** Friday.
Renfroe is our bell cow so I think we should never take any base runners for granted in front of him and in lesser respects Rea, if he ever plays.
Hendersons **** was only positive if it is positive every single time in the first inning. It's never positive in my opinion there and I feel we wasted an out. Henderson is not a good ****er.
You are right about their ****s. Just idiotic coaching that I don't understand. UCA did the same **** Friday.
Renfroe is our bell cow so I think we should never take any base runners for granted in front of him and in lesser respects Rea, if he ever plays.
Perhaps I should have said identity instead of attitude
If you go strictly by broad stats- that probably works pretty well in fantasy baseball.
However, with baseball players you are dealing with humans. And humans have emotions and thoughts and the things that make us human. As a baseball coach, you have to understand that and you have to know your players and your teams identity. You have to do things sometimes in this game to allow them to succeed. Especially when you are dealing with college kids who tend to be even more wired up and emotional and very few on any team- even SEC teams- are elite hitters.
You are correct that it is a results oriented business- but the results were and have been pretty good- 13 runs, a win, and Demarcus got his **** down with no problem (Sure, he's not Rod Carew as far as ****ing, but he's not that bad) and again, it triggered a four run inning and basically put the other team away. The runs and win stat count more than outs. To me, outs aren't the most precious thing because you get 27 outs a game- runs are. Specifically getting more than the other team. So, I'm not exactly sure why you are unhappy with the results? To me, saying that outs are the most precious thing is almost like saying that minutes are the most precious thing in football. All of this in light of the fact that we did what you wanted against Central Arkansas and we had our worst offensive output of the year.
Renfroe is our bellcow, but since he is batting fourth with Detz third, it has provided CT zero protection in the lineup and has thrown him in a slump, so it's almost like we might as well hit him third anyway because Hunter has been coming up with at least one out no matter what. If I'm a pitcher and I see a lineup with a third place hitter with zero home runs- my first thought is attack mode because I don't have to worry about them hitting it out.
If you go strictly by broad stats- that probably works pretty well in fantasy baseball.
However, with baseball players you are dealing with humans. And humans have emotions and thoughts and the things that make us human. As a baseball coach, you have to understand that and you have to know your players and your teams identity. You have to do things sometimes in this game to allow them to succeed. Especially when you are dealing with college kids who tend to be even more wired up and emotional and very few on any team- even SEC teams- are elite hitters.
You are correct that it is a results oriented business- but the results were and have been pretty good- 13 runs, a win, and Demarcus got his **** down with no problem (Sure, he's not Rod Carew as far as ****ing, but he's not that bad) and again, it triggered a four run inning and basically put the other team away. The runs and win stat count more than outs. To me, outs aren't the most precious thing because you get 27 outs a game- runs are. Specifically getting more than the other team. So, I'm not exactly sure why you are unhappy with the results? To me, saying that outs are the most precious thing is almost like saying that minutes are the most precious thing in football. All of this in light of the fact that we did what you wanted against Central Arkansas and we had our worst offensive output of the year.
Renfroe is our bellcow, but since he is batting fourth with Detz third, it has provided CT zero protection in the lineup and has thrown him in a slump, so it's almost like we might as well hit him third anyway because Hunter has been coming up with at least one out no matter what. If I'm a pitcher and I see a lineup with a third place hitter with zero home runs- my first thought is attack mode because I don't have to worry about them hitting it out.
Yea, ...
Doesn't make ANY difference that their lineup most of the weekend was ... SR, JR, SR, JR, JR, SR, SOPH, JR, SR, JR and the pitching staff starters ... SR, JR, SR. We Won't see many lineups like that one against ANY SEC team this year.
They were well coached BUT they also benefitted from a LOT OF EXPERIENCE. Don't you think that Central Ark is better than they were last year? Guess we will see how they do in their conference THIS year.
Doesn't make ANY difference that their lineup most of the weekend was ... SR, JR, SR, JR, JR, SR, SOPH, JR, SR, JR and the pitching staff starters ... SR, JR, SR. We Won't see many lineups like that one against ANY SEC team this year.
They were well coached BUT they also benefitted from a LOT OF EXPERIENCE. Don't you think that Central Ark is better than they were last year? Guess we will see how they do in their conference THIS year.
1. Henderson didnt trigger anything. Renfroe and Slauters doubles did.
2. Please, please don't try to tell me that CT's slump is because of hitting in front of Detz. He has only hit in front of Renfroe 3 times this whole season. Mostly he's been in front of Slauter and Norris. He even got 2 hits and scored 3 runs when Fullerton was in the 3 hole. It doesn't take a psychiatrist to coach a baseball team Todd.
3. Of course runs are the most important. You score runs by not getting out.
2. Please, please don't try to tell me that CT's slump is because of hitting in front of Detz. He has only hit in front of Renfroe 3 times this whole season. Mostly he's been in front of Slauter and Norris. He even got 2 hits and scored 3 runs when Fullerton was in the 3 hole. It doesn't take a psychiatrist to coach a baseball team Todd.
3. Of course runs are the most important. You score runs by not getting out.