What were the things that worried you from Saturday?...

dawgstudent

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Two possessions inside the 5 yard line and came away with 0 points. It looked to me on the interception that the WR wanted to run a fade route and Dak threw a hitch. Someone had the wrong route.

Even though it was apparently a bad hold, we still missed the FG. That's just not good for confidence where it's sorely needed.

It was obvious that the coaches told Prescott do not run. We took care of business. If you capitalize on all the chances we had, we left 17 pts on the table and should have won 66-0 but there are really no complaints from Saturday.
 
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DawgatAuburn

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On the field goal, the snap came in low. We were fortunate to even get the attempt off, but even at that point we've all seen that song and dance so much in the past that it's hard to feel confident that with a perfect snap and hold that we would have converted. We have two weeks to figure this out before FGs likely start becoming important, but we've had <s>nine months</s> two years to figure it out and haven't done it yet.

I wouldn't say I'm "worried" about punt returns, but if that's the best we can do we should just rush 11 and try to block every punt. Tubby and Holloway gave us nothing except heartburn back there.

And I am worried that from first and goal on the five with our first team in the game we couldn't go straight ahead into the end zone. The play calling sucked, but we still should have been able to get five yards of push over four plays. Granted we probably wouldn't try four consecutive straight ahead runs against many SEC defensive lines, but still, when faced with 3rd and 1 on our own 34 against LSU or Bama, can we convert to move the chains?

Also didn't like giving up three sacks. Too early to say I am worried about it though.
 

coach66

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I think you summed it up well. We will know much more after this week.

nm
 

msstate7

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Wasn't crazy about our rb depth. Hopefully shump helps out here. Jrob was outstanding,but nick looks really slow and holloway is tiny.
 

Dawgzilla

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I am wondering if Dak has a little trouble with the short fade? I do not have an encyclopedic knowledge of all of Dak's prior throws, so maybe he has thrown that ball perfectly in the past, but he actually had two bad ones Saturday: The play where USM was called for PI in the endzone on Bear, and the play you were talking about. The ade pass to Bear was too high and long, and the second one possibly wasn't even supposed to be a fade. Just wondering if we have found something Dak is not particularly good at?
 

patdog

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I think someone needs to tell Mullen that just because a guy is small and very fast, he's not necessarily a game-breaking football player. I know he's just a redshirt SO, but Brandon Holloway hasn't shown me ANYTHING yet.
 

BoDawg.sixpack

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Offensive line play

Other than that I don't think we had a touchback on kickoffs. We
 

UpTheMiddlex3Punt

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Putting in Damian in the first quarter. It worries me that our coaching staff is going to make many more boneheaded calls. It didn't put the game in jeopardy, but it has me thinking what dumb thing is Dan going to do next.

Our FB cost us from getting it in on the 4th and goal play. If he actually blocked like a lead blocker is supposed to we walk in. Hopefully this along with OL blocking gets ironed out.

Special teams still look like crap.

The hold on the FG was bad. The holder should get kicked off the team immediately**
 

IBleedMaroonDawg

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Punt return and FG game.

I'm not as concerned about how we played Williams because if last season taught Mullen anything, it is that we have to have at least one QB that is ready to step in during a game situation at a moment's notice. I'll take a TD or two less against these two opening teams to have Williams lose the nerves of jumping into a game.

I think the sacks were a product of not letting Dak loose to run as much as the line.

I do expect us to be better in the red zone against UAB after the blunders of last week. I have a feeling that is a strong topic of conversation from the coaching staff to the first team Offense this entire week.
 

DirtyDog

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The Offensive Line clearly has not gelled together yet, and that may be a result of too much player evaluation and rotating up until game time. I know we want to have 10 OL ready to play, but at some point you have to stick with 5 and let them get used to playing next to each other. I thought Clausell played okay, Day had a bad game for him, Beckwith and Senior struggled, and Malone played well. I might be in the minority, but I thought Dak looked a bit tentative at times, overthinking instead of playing, which made his throws a bit late. It may be due to the fact that they clearly told him to limit his scrambling which probably hurt his rhythm a little. I can understand not wanting to get him hurt against a weak non-conference opponent, but its part of his game and I think it disrupted his natural rhythm. Damian Williams looked nervous to start the game, but finished well. I think it will be important to let him run the read-option a couple times before he starts to throw. I think that he is more comfortable running so let him carry the ball a time or two before passing to get comfortable. JRob looked great at fighting through tackles and squeezing out an extra yard or two. While I root hard for Nick Griffin because all he has overcome and his cool personality, he seemed a bit slow to get through the hole. Should be in good shape when Shumpert gets back as well. Receivers were great. Special teams was a mess. Devon Bell did a good job punting, but can't tell anything about the kicking yet because the one field goal was a bad snap and poor hold by Dak. I was hoping that we could find someone to field the ball without dropping it but it doesn't appear that we can. Besides Holloway's issues, what was Jameon doing chasing those short kicks and almost touching the ball several times in a crowd of defenders? Just get away from it. As for the defense, I'm good with the rotation of fresh bodies. I think we have players that can apply pressure and take up blockers on both DLs. The backers looked good, as did the secondary. However, a consistent problem that I have seen is that our blitz packages seem to be less effective than other teams. When our DBs and LBs blitz and get to the QB, they seem awkward and often totally whiff even against less mobile QBs. It happened several times again in this game. I just want to see them blow up the QB on a blitz. All these things noted, the team looks about as good as any first-game MSU team that I have watched, and the potential for more is clearly there.

As for the stadium, it looked beautiful and had no real issues. Yes, I would like the pump up music to sync better with the game etc. We all hate the commercials but they help pay the bills. I think the administration needs to better plan for inclement weather. Parking in BFE because we couldn't park on the wet grass is okay, but let's have more than 1 stinking shuttle operating when I see 20 university golf carts sitting around with drivers eating tailgate food. I can walk it fine, but a lot of the older fans really struggled. A little bit of planning would have removed that negative experience. Secondly, what kind of slobs do we have tailgating in the Junction? Damn, pick up your trash people. That was freaking ridiculous. The event staff directing traffic really needs to take a class, I actually believe they made it worse.
 

coach66

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Dak was obviously told not to run and to slide at every opportunity. We need

Williams playing at a very high level in order to reach our max potential this year. Mullen's offense needs two good QB's, they get hit too much.
 

coach66

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Felt for Nick Griffin when he broke in the clear and his mind was telling him

TD and his knees just couldn't get him there.
 

KurtRambis4

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^^^THIS

Our FB cost us from getting it in on the 4th and goal play. If he actually blocked like a lead blocker is supposed to we walk in.

ALL DAY. Everyone keeps harping on the OL on this play, but it was the FB that was the one that kept us from scoring there. He just did not do his job.
 

sipDawg98

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The play calling is going to be vanilla until we play LSU. It's a planned thing. We don't need to show much if we can help it. There's no point until we start SEC play.

Playing Damian was more for insurance I imagine. Get him some reps so in case that the unthinkable happens and Dak gets hurt, we aren't up a creek. Why not get him some reps now rather than bring him in cold against a team that's more important?

Special teams does worry me. USM brought it the last couple of punts and got close both times. FG was a bad snap but I don't think that'll be an ongoing issue. Chapman has been great 99% of the time. I for one hope that we don't do this rotate the kicker every kick ******** during SEC play. I truly think that 17's with our kickers more than anything. They're already head cases so why would we add more drama by them not knowing who is going in next? I was pleased with Bell punting.

One thing that irks me is our punt returners not coming up to catch the damn punt. How many times have we watched the ball hit the ground and roll another 10-15 yards? You don't have to run with the ball, call a fair catch and we'll take it on the 45 rather than the 30. That makes a huge difference.

OL worries me some but I haven't given up hope yet.

Love our D's tenacity. Here's to hoping we can lead the SEC in D.

My 2 cents.
 

FlotownDawg

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This times 1,000

I for one hope that we don't do this rotate the kicker every kick ******** during SEC play. I truly think that 17's with our kickers more than anything. They're already head cases so why would we add more drama by them not knowing who is going in next?
Just pick a damn kicker and be done with it. Take one of them aside, say "You're my guy" and then let him kick. Kicking is such a mental thing anyway, I think it really messes with the mind when you don't know if or when you are going to kicking in a certain situation. Go ahead and pick one and let him prepare during the week knowing he is the guy. This "We'll see who kicks better in practice this week and then use him in the game" crap is ********. I don't think any other team in the SEC still doesn't know who its kicker is after the season has started.
 

thekimmer

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OL play and place kicking.....

1. FG kicking seems to have started up where we left off last year. Very, very disappointing. Pray it does not continue. If so it this will cost us a game or two.

2. OL play. At the beginning especially. Dak will not be able to operate to his potential and will not stay healthy if we have breakdowns here. Got better later but still.

Positives:

DEFENSE! Wow! Superlative effort, superlative squad.

WRs! We finally have something here.
 

Xenomorph

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I'm worried that...

...we just pasted our opening game opponent 49-0 and are the only team in the SEC (other than UF who hasn't played) to not be scored on and we're bitching about our staff allowing the backups to play early in the game.
 

fishwater99

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I am very concerned about our OL when we play an SEC Defense.

I agree the play calling on the goal-line was questionable, but overall I think we did a good job Saturday.

FYI...USM is horrible...
 

patdog

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This all day long. OL and place kicking have both got to get better.
 
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Other than that I don't think we had a touchback on kickoffs. We

Pretty sure that is by design. Bell can easily kick the ball into the end zone......but Mullen prefers him to get as much hang time as possible and aim for the goal line in an effort to pin them deep. When we start SEC play I would kind of prefer that he just kicked it as deep as possible, because I don't think that the 5-10 yards of field position that we may gain is really worth the risk of a big return.
 
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Kicker, kicker and kicker. It's going to cost us a game (or two).

I wish Dak wasn't our holder. If he gets hurt (even for a series) we lose our QB and we lose our holder. Our kicking is so bad that it might not matter but that's why I'd prefer it if we had a back-up doing the holding.

Not sure you can tell much else from a game like that. USM is so, so bad. Like Alcorn, JSU bad.
 

Irondawg

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For me I didn't like not playing Fitz some in the 4th quarter and letting him get his feet wet in case we need him. I'm not sold on Damian as the backup QB. He's not horrible and made some nice throws but he has a very long throwing motion that I think will cause some problems over time. Some of that is just how high I am on Fitz after seeing him in the spring game.
 

patdog

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Agree. I was looking forward to seeing him play some. I guess this means we're trying to redshirt both him and Staley. I like Damien as a backup, but I'm thinking Fitzgerald may be the starter after Dak graduates.
 

FQDawg

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For me, it's all about the OL...

For all the talk about the kicking game, our OL is going to cost us way more than our kicking game will. Once we hit the tough games in our schedule, you should prepare yourself for a lot of three-and-outs unless the OL gets markedly better.
 

uptowndawg

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Last time I heard this one.

The play calling is going to be vanilla until we play LSU. It's a planned thing. We don't need to show much if we can help it. There's no point until we start SEC play.

The vanilla play calling didn't change when we got to SEC play. Re: 2012 #webelive
 

JackShephard

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Williams playing at a very high level in order to reach our max potential this year. Mullen's offense needs two good QB's, they get hit too much.

then why not give him some series with the 1's instead of an entire new offense?
 

Shamoan

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im more worried about the game in lexington. they looked like a real sec football team and we had an extremely close call with them last year. arky looked better too, so im glad that game is in starkville.
 

Xenomorph

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UT Martin started a DL weighing 235 lbs and a LB weighing 175. That's all you need to know.
 

fishwater99

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Agree. I was looking forward to seeing him play some. I guess this means we're trying to redshirt both him and Staley. I like Damien as a backup, but I'm thinking Fitzgerald may be the starter after Dak graduates.

Yeah. I think we are going for redshirts, why wouldn't we...
 

NCDawg.sixpack

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For all the talk about the kicking game, our OL is going to cost us way more than our kicking game will. Once we hit the tough games in our schedule, you should prepare yourself for a lot of three-and-outs unless the OL gets markedly better.

I totally agree.
 

horshack.sixpack

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The play calling is going to be vanilla until we play LSU. It's a planned thing. We don't need to show much if we can help it. There's no point until we start SEC play.

Playing Damian was more for insurance I imagine. Get him some reps so in case that the unthinkable happens and Dak gets hurt, we aren't up a creek. Why not get him some reps now rather than bring him in cold against a team that's more important?

Special teams does worry me. USM brought it the last couple of punts and got close both times. FG was a bad snap but I don't think that'll be an ongoing issue. Chapman has been great 99% of the time. I for one hope that we don't do this rotate the kicker every kick ******** during SEC play. I truly think that 17's with our kickers more than anything. They're already head cases so why would we add more drama by them not knowing who is going in next? I was pleased with Bell punting.

One thing that irks me is our punt returners not coming up to catch the damn punt. How many times have we watched the ball hit the ground and roll another 10-15 yards? You don't have to run with the ball, call a fair catch and we'll take it on the 45 rather than the 30. That makes a huge difference.

OL worries me some but I haven't given up hope yet.

Love our D's tenacity. Here's to hoping we can lead the SEC in D.

My 2 cents.

I reserve the right to be cynical on the "we didn't show anything" argument until we actually have to show something AND DO. #wedonotbelieveyet
 

TailgateCo

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I was mostly worried about $20k worth of electronics sitting outside during a torrential rain storm...
 

missouridawg

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Really?

No reason to RS fitz...

'15
Dak - sr
Williams - jr
Fitz - soph (if no RS)
Staley fr


There's no reason to redshirt someone? Arceto Clark agrees with you as he does his jet sweep.

I'd much rather have Fitz as a 5th year senior than a true freshman who took 20 snaps.
 

msstate7

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There's no reason to redshirt someone? Arceto Clark agrees with you as he does his jet sweep.

I'd much rather have Fitz as a 5th year senior than a true freshman who took 20 snaps.

You'll have staley and fitz leave at same time. I'd rather stagger them. Got 2 more freshmen qb's on the way
 

DerHntr

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Kicking is first and my second concern is close (OL). Most fans would be happy with just mediocre kicking right now. Why in the world are we not trying to be great in our kicking game? The difference that a good to great kicking game would make is hard to quantify. If our team and our opponents knew we could consistently get 3 points from 40 yards and in, we could change the game drastically.

Missing a field goal is deflating for the offense and frustrating for the defense. The offense just worked hard for nothing and the defense typically doesn't have the opportunity to play against the other team pinned down on their own side of the field. Consistently making field goals opens up the playbook for the offense because we have a great backup plan if third down doesn't work. Missing field goals consistently can put the other team's offense in better field position and opens up their playbook as well. It's a double edged sword.

Considering the landscape of the SEC West, to beat the big boys is going to require some close wins. I will never expect to beat LSU, TAMU, or BAMA by more than 10 points. So they will always be in striking distance and we need an edge. We won't get that edge from recruiting in most instances. The kicking game could do it though.
 
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Shamoan

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uk looked much improved. they were flying all over the field. keep in mind, they were most likely much worse last year and were a dropped pass away from possibly beating us. we better be ready...thats all im saying. we will be favored and mullen has proven that he doesnt let the ones we should win slip away, but we cant stroll in thinking we are going to trounce them. its going to be a fight.
 

patdog

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Because we might have to play our #3 QB in the last 2 games of the season like we did last year and if we do, I'd rather it be someone who has actually taken a live college snap in his life. Also because I'm not completely sold on Williams if, god forbid, Dak does get hurt.