What would Saban's ceiling be at Mississippi State?

[bonedaddy401]

Hypothetically... What would Nick Saban be able to accomplish at state? Would it be consistently winning 10-12 games a year? 10+ regularly but not consistently? 10+ only a few times? Could be he get us to be a contender year in and year out to go to Atlanta?

What is yalls take on what the best coach in college football could do with what we have here at Mississippi State?

 

[Wether]

Hypothetically... What would Nick Saban be able to accomplish at state? Would it be consistently winning 10-12 games a year? 10+ regularly but not consistently? 10+ only a few times? Could be he get us to be a contender year in and year out to go to Atlanta?

What is yalls take on what the best coach in college football could do with what we have here at Mississippi State?

Saban has generated the level of credibility where the top talent will come to him--regardless of where he is. As long as the school has the requisite resources to allow him to do his job, he would be wildly successful, and there really wouldn't be a ceiling on his capabilities. So, pretty much any school in the SEC who is willing to give him complete control and the budget he needs would win NC's. MSU would be included in this.

 

[msstate7]

He could have us a contender for the west year-in, year-out. I picture him being like petrino was at Arkansas with the exception being that saban wouldn't be at Alabama so the west would be softer. I don't think he would win a national title.

 

[bonedaddy401]

I don't think he would win a National Title and would struggle to make it to Atl

I think making Atlanta would be a helluva stretch for us even with Saban at the helm. I think we would be really good but winning in Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa would always be tough regardless. I'm just not sure even with his ability to bring in top talent and get the most out of them we have the budget and resources to make the most of it.

I say he consistently wins 8-10 a year and one out of every 5-7 years making a scare at Atlanta.

 

[dawgphd]

I don't think Saban wins a NC at MSU.

His Michigan State record may be a good indicator. He averaged 7 wins on a 11 game schedule. So let's predict his MSU record to be a reliable 8-4/9-3 every year with an occasional 10-2. Hell he usually loses one a year at Bama.

It would take him a little while to adjust. Lotsa difference in Bama/LSU and MSU.

He would actually compete for the SEC West and occasionally SEC . (Not just talk about it.)

Our talent would be upgraded. Annual consensus #10-#20 recruiting classes. But not to the point of Bama/LSU. Those schools have tradition and had talent before Saban and will/do after.

We wouldn't be nervous on non conference games. We would be competitive in all SEC games. No more debacles like the last half of the season.

He would break our losing streak to LSU.

Stricklin and Keenum would have zero say over football.

Most importantly, we would no longer wear gimmick uniforms on a seemingly weekly basis.

Wouldn't the above be worth at least double and maybe triple ticket prices?

 

[Maroonthirteen]

Slightly better than Jackie and Dan

His reputation would allow him to land a few players that we don't normally get. Therefore the talent would get a slight up grade and result in a few more wins. However, he would not be able to land kids from NY, NJ, CA and etc at MSU. So, no SEC or National Championships.

 

[bonedaddy401]

Pretty good breakdown here....

I think we would see some top ten recruiting classes though. I think he is a better coach now than he was at Mich State but the SEC being what it is today makes up for that.

 

[johnson86-1]

Hypothetically... What would Nick Saban be able to accomplish at state? Would it be consistently winning 10-12 games a year? 10+ regularly but not consistently? 10+ only a few times? Could be he get us to be a contender year in and year out to go to Atlanta?

What is yalls take on what the best coach in college football could do with what we have here at Mississippi State?

With his current reputation, it's be competing for National Championships. Not sure if we'd get one, but I think we'd be a less consistent version of Saban's LSU teams. He has the reputation now that he could get top tier talent. He'd have less resources, but I think the bigger obstacle would be having LSU, Bama, and A&M, not to mention Auburn and Arkansas in his division. Him being at LSU or Bama took a powerhouse off the table. Now he'd be adding one to it.

If he came to MSU from the other MSU, I think a more consistent version of Jackie. He'd clearly be able to get Jack style defensive talent. But he wouldn't be able to load up on offensive talent to where a methodical, ball control offense would get it done consistently against top teams. Don't know if he'd ever get over the hump or not to get to a national championship level team. As close as Jackie was, I think he could, but it certainly wouldn't be a shoe in.

 

[Heawww]

Similar to Spurrier at South Carolina.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Does he get to pay his coordinators well when he comes?

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

Hypothetically... What would Nick Saban be able to accomplish at state? Would it be consistently winning 10-12 games a year? 10+ regularly but not consistently? 10+ only a few times? Could be he get us to be a contender year in and year out to go to Atlanta?

What is yalls take on what the best coach in college football could do with what we have here at Mississippi State?

National Championship no question. He would do the same thing he did before he started at Bama. Before he came in he would let our administration know, "If you bring me in the big-time recruits I will win, guaranteed.

 

[Faustdog]

He would probably do about as well has well as he did at Michigan State.

 

[Shmuley]

About 5 foot 6 and a half.

 

[was21]

He would struggle. He wouldn't have the money to pay salaries to assistants any more than Mullen does.

 

[jacksonreb]

saban would win the NC at msu or any other

major school where he might coach. we both have "enough" money, facilities, etc to compete. its about PEOPLE and LEADERSHIP and saban would win big for either of us. the REAL problem we both have is that if we ever get a "saban" we can't keep him from getting bought out from under us. extension of that problem is keeping really talented assistants. that's where the money hurts. the only hope either of us really have is that THE GUY we find turns out to be one of our own.....maybe a freeze for us or a hudspeth for you guys, if i understand correctly that msu is hud's dream job. but even then the challenge will be keeping the good young assistants when bama can pay a coor 1.5 mill if they need to.

 

[Sutterkane]

Saban has coached at MSU. He didn't win a NC.

 

[Wizard.sixpack]

+1 Laughed out loud on that one

About 5 foot 6 and a half.

.

 

[SuspectZero]

I'm not saying he wouldn't ever win a NC here, but I believe it would be very difficult. Much more difficult than at a school like Bama. He would be limited for a long time by resources such as money, facilities, etc....

 

[Palos verdes]

This is an interesting topic. It's my belief that Saban could potentially win a NC at State, but it would take many years to do so. He would be able to recruit better than any former regime and we would be a couple of games better (record wise) within 3 or 4 years. But to win the west, it would take longer to achieve than at other schools. I think if he could get the right coaches to hang around and recruit wisely, he could win a NC in 6-10 years. But there is a window of time that it would have to happen, because if he couldn't do it within that window, his stock would suffer and he would begin to regress. But in reality, Saban would never take on a job responsibility where he didn't have the very best of resources money and prestige to back him. He would never come to MSU.

 

[Rajunbulldog]

He could win a NC if he just left Alabama now and came to MSU. If he would've left Miami and came straight to MSU I don't think he could build enough momentum early to convince players to come here and win.

 

[NCDawg.sixpack]

major school where he might coach. we both have "enough" money, facilities, etc to compete. its about PEOPLE and LEADERSHIP and saban would win big for either of us. the REAL problem we both have is that if we ever get a "saban" we can't keep him from getting bought out from under us. extension of that problem is keeping really talented assistants. that's where the money hurts. the only hope either of us really have is that THE GUY we find turns out to be one of our own.....maybe a freeze for us or a hudspeth for you guys, if i understand correctly that msu is hud's dream job. but even then the challenge will be keeping the good young assistants when bama can pay a coor 1.5 mill if they need to.

I think you're probably correct. Don't think Saban would stand on the sideline with a forlorn, daydreaming, appearance when we are getting our butts handed to us. I think you're correct about Hudspeth. He's probably the man we need to at State. Think he could recruit and coach much better than the staff we have now.