What's being lost in all the piling on Les Miles is...

[Coach34]

that the reason he looks dumb <span style="text-decoration:underline">at times</span> with his decisions is because he and Crowton are fighting on the headset. That is causing the delays and confusion on decisions. At the end of Saturday's game, Miles threw his headset to the ground and started pointing at people to go in as well as calling the play himself.

Miles needs to call the **** himself, or get the 17 out of the way. You can't have 2 people constatly at odds about playcalls. I've been there, and it makes things worse. Not firing Crowton is going to be Miles ultimate mistake that cost him the job if he cant pull an upset of one of the big 4 to save it.

Crowton is known for all his complex packages and all that, and this season Miles wants it simpler. Lee can handle what Crowton wants and Jefferson can't. Jefferson can do what Miles wants, but Crowton just can't handle being more simplistic and playing conservative on offense.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens this Saturday.

 

[Coach34]

that the reason he looks dumb <span style="text-decoration:underline">at times</span> with his decisions is because he and Crowton are fighting on the headset. That is causing the delays and confusion on decisions. At the end of Saturday's game, Miles threw his headset to the ground and started pointing at people to go in as well as calling the play himself.

Miles needs to call the **** himself, or get the 17 out of the way. You can't have 2 people constatly at odds about playcalls. I've been there, and it makes things worse. Not firing Crowton is going to be Miles ultimate mistake that cost him the job if he cant pull an upset of one of the big 4 to save it.

Crowton is known for all his complex packages and all that, and this season Miles wants it simpler. Lee can handle what Crowton wants and Jefferson can't. Jefferson can do what Miles wants, but Crowton just can't handle being more simplistic and playing conservative on offense.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens this Saturday.

 

[Coach34]

that the reason he looks dumb <span style="text-decoration:underline">at times</span> with his decisions is because he and Crowton are fighting on the headset. That is causing the delays and confusion on decisions. At the end of Saturday's game, Miles threw his headset to the ground and started pointing at people to go in as well as calling the play himself.

Miles needs to call the **** himself, or get the 17 out of the way. You can't have 2 people constatly at odds about playcalls. I've been there, and it makes things worse. Not firing Crowton is going to be Miles ultimate mistake that cost him the job if he cant pull an upset of one of the big 4 to save it.

Crowton is known for all his complex packages and all that, and this season Miles wants it simpler. Lee can handle what Crowton wants and Jefferson can't. Jefferson can do what Miles wants, but Crowton just can't handle being more simplistic and playing conservative on offense.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens this Saturday.

 

[Coach34]

that the reason he looks dumb <span style="text-decoration:underline">at times</span> with his decisions is because he and Crowton are fighting on the headset. That is causing the delays and confusion on decisions. At the end of Saturday's game, Miles threw his headset to the ground and started pointing at people to go in as well as calling the play himself.

Miles needs to call the **** himself, or get the 17 out of the way. You can't have 2 people constatly at odds about playcalls. I've been there, and it makes things worse. Not firing Crowton is going to be Miles ultimate mistake that cost him the job if he cant pull an upset of one of the big 4 to save it.

Crowton is known for all his complex packages and all that, and this season Miles wants it simpler. Lee can handle what Crowton wants and Jefferson can't. Jefferson can do what Miles wants, but Crowton just can't handle being more simplistic and playing conservative on offense.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens this Saturday.

 

[patdog]

Miles only threw his headset AFTER he thought the game was over, not during the Chinese Fire Drill that preceded it. The simple fact is that, while Miles is a good coach in most ways, he's a complete idiot at the end of a game. It sure as hell wasn't Gary Crowton signalling the QB to spike the ballin last year's Mississippi game.

 

[davatron]

Either way he is an idiot.

 

[Coach34]

I just sat here watching the guys on ESPN talking about the same thing. That's why I even brought it up. Miles even talked mentioned it in his postgame press conference.

I agree he is an idiot for not having the situation straight before he gets in that position. But it's not like he is standing there with Down Syndrome unable to make a decision- the problems he is having between him and Crowton is causing alot of it. And it's up to Miles to fix it.

 

[Center Z]

http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2010/10/les_miles_postgame_comments_fo.html

He did a pretty good job of looking dumb all by himself.

 

[Coach34]

He is clearly talking abut how Crowton is not getting it done. That's about as an obvious throwing your OC under the bus as you will see

 

[OMlawdog]

I've alwayss assumedit is simply for show.

Les Miles is like a guy who wins the lottery andmoves to a new town andwhonow owns the biggest house on the block, with the nicest cars in the neighborhood, and has a hot wife.Everyone on the block just assumes that heis someone that must be smart to have attained that level of success, and initially they are so impressed with his house, his cars, and his wife, that no one actuallyasked how he became so successful.As the years go on, people notice that for a rich guy, his yard looks like ****, his pool is never clean, and his wife is bangingthe yoga instructer. When the cars get repo and the house gets foreclosed on, and his wife leaveshim, the neighbors start to ask where all the money went, Miles would probably respond with something like "That damn internet" or "I invested in calling cards". At that point they realize that he wasn't really successful or smart, just a guy that was in the right place at the right time. It could have been anyone that bought that lottery ticket, but in this case it was Les Miles, and obviously that lottery ticket was taking over for a Nick Saban coached and more importantly recruited LSU football team.

The guy is a moron. He tried to call a timeout after his team intercepted a pass with less than 2:00 left in the game. PLEASE RE-READ THAT SENTENCE. That is something my wife wouldn't do, and she couldn't tell you how many points a touchdown is worth. He is simply a moron. Last year's game against Ole Miss was not a fluke, and this last weekend's game is simply confirmation of what a moron he is. Worst than that though, is he is a liar. He lied about telling Jefferson to spike the ball, and he is lying now to cover up his mental flaws.

Sad thing is that I don't blame Miles. He is a football version of Lennie, from Of Mice and Men. Instead of tending rabbits, Miles likes to be the head coach of a football team and watch the clock go down to zero.

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[patdog]

Problem is, that's HIS offensive coordinator and HIS players he's throwing under the bus. If this was the first time he'd <17>ed up the end of a game I could buy his excuses. But it's not. And it's not like either the Mississippi or Tennessee games were just ordinary <17>ups. They were two of the worst I've ever seen at this level of football. If he can't do any better than that at the end of a game, regardless of the excuse he tries to use, he's an idiot. And just for the record, his history with excuses isn't exactly perfect here. He tried to blame the Mississippi game on his QB trying to spike the ball, then later video evidence came up that he was the one who told the QB to spike the ball.

 

[Coach34]

substitutes players on his own, and makes the final playcall and leaves his OC sitting up in the booth with his thumb in his ***- there is a big problem and it causes alot of other problems.

You can say this, you can say that- but that's a fact.

Ask Andy Reid about getting a delay of game from the one yard line coming out of a time-out in the 1st half of Sunday's game that cost them the game vs Washington. I can't understand how that is not being talked about more this week.

 

[Center Z]

But you're missing the point. Even when trying to blame things on his staff or players, which in my opinion is Croom-esque and therefore dumb, he stumbles over his words and seems confused. And like Pat said, it's not the first time it's happened. I shouldn't have to explain why that makes him look dumb, but believe what you want.

I will give it to him though, he's got the luck of 100 leprechauns drinking concentrated four-leaf clover cocktails.

 

[patdog]

Makes all the sense in the world. The simple fact is that there's no excuse for something like this to happen at the end of a game twice in 8 games. None at all. If his communication problems with Crowton are that bad, he's sill an idiot for allowing that situation to continue. No matter how you try to excuse it, it still comes down to Miles being an idiot.

 

[OMlawdog]

Just seems odd that he would have thrown the headset to the ground, only to pick it up to call one play.

Nothing would surprise me with Miles though.

 

[Shmuley]

Don't take this as a slap at you. I wish the hoopla over Miles' ignorant *** would quickly die down. I want his *** in Baton Rouge for at least another 5 years. We're on at least two 2011 coonasses who are 5 star locks (Rasco is one). As long as CLM is there, CNS will pull anybody in LA he really wants.

So, not everybody has a problem with Miles, you see.

 

[bonedaddy401]

Don't really give a **** what cracker jack high school you were O-Line coach at but I bet it is a lot different at LSU. Thanks for your insight....

 

[OMlawdog]

Those games should be considered unwinnable. But with Miles there, I always feel we have a chance. We've seen what a great coach can do at LSU, and now we are seeing what a coach who probably is suffering from dimentia can do while coaching at LSU. Pretty strong statement to the level of talent at LSU, that they are an 8-9 win program even with Lennie as their head coach.

 

[Shmuley]

Miles at LSU is the best thing for <span style="text-decoration:line-through">MSU and</span> Ole Miss... Th<span style="text-decoration:line-through">ose</span>at game<span style="text-decoration:line-through">s</span> should be considered unwinnable. But with Miles there, I always feel <span style="text-decoration:line-through">we</span> Ole Miss ha<span style="text-decoration:line-through">ve</span>s a chance.

For forlorn MState fans, LUS would have to hire Sylvester Crxxms in order for MState to have any hope of a win versus LUS.

 

[Coach34]

Miles made the call on the touchdown scoring play. He was fed up with what was going on with the offense.

The last play, he totally took his OC out of the equation. That says alot.

He 100% is responsible for what happens and he has to straighten it out. I'm just saying there is more to it than just Miles standing there looking like a rahtard

 

[Coach34]

Don't really give a **** what cracker jack high school you were O-Line coach at but I bet it is a lot different at LSU. Thanks for your insight....

I was OC and coached QB's and RB's

 

[OMlawdog]

Just look at some of the things that Coach has said about Miles:

He has gone undefeated in bowl games and has won 10 games a season every year as coach- NO OTHER COACH IN LSU HISTORY HAS DONE WHAT MILES HAS DONE- NOBODY...not one single soul can say that in LSU history...Miles stands alone at the top

Its not Miles fault he got a good job. He cant control what happened before he got to LSU. All he can control is what is happening while he is the head coach...and what is happening? He is making history at the school- thats what.</p>

I agree completely thathe is makinghistory at LSU, I've never seenanother coach do what Miles is doing at any NCAA school.

Miles elevated them even higher than Saban could. Miles achieved way more than even Saban could. There is no way to give Saban credit for NC 3 years after he is gone- thats just a load of ********.

Yeah, Saban doesn't get credit for a team full of his players winning a national title despite LSU losing two games to Arkansas at home, and at Kentucky. Thats right Kentucky. Is anyone now doubting that Saban left Miles a ton of talent, that Miles has now turned into a putrid offense?

 

[OMlawdog]

If he took the OC out of the equation, why did he still have the headset on?

Now it could be that everyone knows that his headset is never plugged in, but his headset was on prior to calling the last play.

 

[LR1400]

that the reason he looks dumb <span style="text-decoration: underline;">at times</span> with his decisions is because he and Crowton are fighting on the headset. That is causing the delays and confusion on decisions. At the end of Saturday's game, Miles threw his headset to the ground and started pointing at people to go in as well as calling the play himself.

Miles needs to call the **** himself, or get the 17 out of the way. You can't have 2 people constatly at odds about playcalls. I've been there, and it makes things worse. Not firing Crowton is going to be Miles ultimate mistake that cost him the job if he cant pull an upset of one of the big 4 to save it.

Crowton is known for all his complex packages and all that, and this season Miles wants it simpler. Lee can handle what Crowton wants and Jefferson can't. Jefferson can do what Miles wants, but Crowton just can't handle being more simplistic and playing conservative on offense.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens this Saturday.

He isn't a gnat on Saban's *** regardless of the endless diatribe you will now go on quoting how much better Les record is etc. etc. and on and on.

He is a terrible head coach and organizer. This cannot be argued. He has proven time and again that he is unprepared and is a ********. He is Larry Coker. He lucked into a Nat'l Championship based on the fantastic setup a previous coach left him just like Miles.

 

[MisissippiTimes]

I would not consider Bayou Academy vs Lee (AR) Academy game would compare the the level of LSU vs TN douche' bag .

 

[dawgstudent]

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[Coach34]

is not going to beat LSU. You have won the last 2 years because of all the talent you guys had- that is no longer there. Things will be back to normal for you guys this time in BR.

 

[OMlawdog]

Dear god, who ever assembled a team at LSU that wasn't more talented than Ole Miss for two years in a row, is a moron.

So Ole Miss, was able to out talent LSU two years in a row?Really? We simply had them outgunned?

Well if that is the case, then LSU should have fired Miles immediately, because any coach that can't outrecruit Ole Miss while at LSU is freaking imbecile.

I don't expect to win at BR, but as UT showed, while Miles is the head coach at LSU, almost any team has a chance to beat LSU.

 

[Coach34]

being there from the standpoint of confusion taking place because you are arguing with the other person on the headset about formation and playcall. I'm not debating making a playcall in front of 4,000 vs 90,000


It's just like when you are being rushed by your manager to make more steak tacos and you feel like the chicken tacos are low and more of those need to be made- the people in a fancy New York retaurant have the same problems as you- just a bigger stage...now do you understand?

 

[tenureplan]

serve steak and chicken tacos?

 

[RaiderDawg24]

Just watched the replay, Miles has his head set on while talking to the team on the sideline while calling the final play (he has it on while the ref is makeing the penalty call as seen here). In his press conference at the 3:50 mark he says, "I had thrown my headphones off and so I had to go ahead and call a play because I didn't have anyone to talk to."

In an ESPN article by Chris Low, Miles said he was at fault for the botched play against Tennessee that
ran the last 28 seconds off the clock. The right play would have been
to have the quarterback spike it, Miles said, but<span style="font-weight: bold;"> he thought enough
time remained to get two plays off,</span> and underestimated how confusion
would reign in the frantic final seconds.

 

[OMlawdog]

Now almost 72 hours after the game, he thinks the right play call would have been to spike the ball? ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME?

The correct call would have been to have the run play, and if it didn't work to have a quick pass play as the next play call. You have two plays called in the event the first play doesn't get a score when you have no timeouts, the second of which stops the clock.

Its mind numbing how freaking dumb he is.

Also, I have no idea what play call he is talking about, but Miles had them on for the last play call.

 

[Coach34]

How spiking the ball to stop the clock immediately after they got stopped was dumb???? They would have had 16-18 seconds left to run 2 plays if needed and had plenty of time to get personnel in the game as opposed to being rushed like they were?

 

[bonedaddy401]

Must have gone real well since you are out of coaching now.....<div>
</div><div>You breaking down college coaching because you were a failed assistant to theassistantcoach is like me claiming to know how to do open heartsurgeryafter I clipped a hang nail.</div><div>
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[RebelBruiser]

LSU had 6 players drafted in the 2009 draft and 6 drafted in the 2010 draft.

We had 4 players drafted in the 2009 draft and 4 players drafted in the 2010 draft.

I'll be willing to bet that LSU has more players drafted in the 2011 draft than we do as well.

Granted, we did have more first day (first 3 round picks) than LSU the last 2 years, 5 compared to 3, but still it's hard to say we were loaded down with talent.

Orgeron did recruit well by our standards, but well by our standards puts us at best on par with LSU on ****** standards.

Miles had at least as much to work with the last two years as we have had, probably more, and he's lost both games, by convincing fashion in one, and he was lucky to even be close in the other.

This year, LSU has Drake Nevis, Kevlin Sheppard, Terrance Tolliver, Jai Eugene, Joseph Barksdale, and Richard Murphy all as potential draft picks, all around Top 20-25 at their respective positions.

We have Johnny Brown, Jonathan Cornell, Jerrell Powe, Lawon Scott, and Ted Laurent with Kentrell Lockett injured all around the Top 20-25 at their respective positions.

We won the last two years with all the talent we had, that's no longer there. Well, why didn't LSU win, or even come close, with all the talent they had there?

 

[RobbieRandolph]

But the talent gap between OM and LSU is much wider this year than in the past 2 years. That's what C34 was trying to say.

 

[OMlawdog]

It was 2nd down and goal when Jefferson ran the ball, and there was 32 seconds on the clock. If he gets up and gets everyone in position and spikes it on 3rd down, then LSU has probably 15 seconds to run ONE play. Congrats Miles.

Now, if he wassmart coach, he would have had two plays called in case the RUN on 2nd down and goal with 32 seconds left was unsuccessful. If he runs a quick slant or a fade with roughly 12 seconds left, that means they would have that opportunity to score, plus an opportunity to score on 4th down.

I guess it depends on how many opportunities you want to try and score to win the game. I like most rational humans, would want more opportunites instead of Les opportunities. Having two plays called gives LSU three chances to score. Even in hindsight, Les would have only had two opportunities.

That is why it is dumb.</p>

 

[bonedaddy401]

Nobody gives a **** chief

 

[OMlawdog]

That is on Miles. The fact that he let LSU turn into an average 8-8 SEC record over the last two years, is on him.

I don't think the teams are comparable in talent this year, and they shouldn't be, we fired a coach almost 3 years ago, you are going to havea hole in your roster as a result, unless your name is Nick Saban.

Even with an obvious talent gap, I don't think that game is unwinnable. I don't think it is likely, but with Miles, anything is possible as Tennessee just proved.</p>

 

[MisissippiTimes]

Did I play ball ? Yes
Do I mention it every @%@%+@@ time I type on here or Nafoom ? %*%+ No

And your are trying to tell me I work at fast food restaurant as your **** talking ? WOW

I doubt Bayou or Lee , whichever you coached at after Polk told you that hitting a home run in walk-on tryouts BP was not good enough , has ever came close to having 500 people at the game , much less 4000 .

Good day sir