What's happened to our DB's?
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Maybe somewhat overrated. Edwards is yet to see a coverage he can't blow.
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I'd say the biggest difference is we lost Derrick Ansley. That guy was one of the few guys on this defensive staff that could actually COACH. Losing him really hurt us. I was and remain underwhelmed by his replacement.
well what happened is that you were foolish once again to believe the UK media preseason hype.
happens every year and people never learn.
happens every year and people never learn.
Defensive backs are only as good as the front 7. If you get no pass rush and can't stop the run then its irrelevant who's in your defensive back field.
NO PASS RUSH!!!!!! I do not care how good of a defensive back you are, you can not cover someone forever.
When you give a quarterback 5+ seconds to find a receiver with absolutely no pressure, there is not an NFL secondary unit that could cover their assignments. Someone is going to get open. Yes, there's been blown coverages, but our defensive line's inability to put any pressure on the quarterback is putting our DB's in an impossible situation.
I don't think they are in anyway over rated. Those guys make extreme athletic plays. The problem is that they are almost always lost. It looks to me like they are all just free lancing out there rather than playing their assignments. Maybe the loss of Ansley is taking a bigger toll than we thought.
I was afraid that was gonna be the case when we lost Ansley. I mean his replacement came from a school whose D last year resembled ours this year. Probably no coincidence.
Something is wrong with the intelligence of this team. I don't mean that they are dumb, but they are often confused and seem to often make mental mistakes. It happens on both sides of the ball. Last night we were constantly late getting lined up. Then on offense there were several instances where we ran a play action but the quarterback turned one way while the running back went the other. This happened even in the series when Barker was still in. Our secondary seems to get lost frequently and with a lot of blown coverages. These are mental errors that need fixed. Everyone needs on the same page and must know the playbook.
Come on. Westry, Baity, and Edwards are sophomores. These guys are going to be great players with more experience, but they are still learning. And if Kentucky can't find a pass rush, our secondary will never look good.
Did you see Coach Stoops showing one of the booth announcers for the Southern Miss game how they teach the DBs and the announcer then said on the broadcast that it wasn't what he was taught. Kentucky defensive players are so out of position that it has to be the coaching. The UK players are no different than any other team's players and if you teach them basic defensive schemes, they will implement them. The head coach's constant look of confusion and mild panic does not instill confidence and inspiration. Also, blaming players is not conducive to building trust and respect, especially when coaching shortcomings are so obvious.
Yep. Everything is fine except our FS keeps biting on crossing routes and missing the post going behind him.
USM burned us with it before the half. Then again later. Florida hit us with it. Now so has nmsu.
I know Edwards is great in run rapport. But at some point if your fs costs you 7 on any given pass play, it's time for him to sit till he gets it.
That's part of the problem but the gadget plays have fooled these boys over and over. As they grow they will get better, they have the natural ability.
Ummm 6 ints after 3 gms leads the SEC.
What the hell do you expect op?
http://secsports.go.com/statistics/football
What the hell do you expect op?
http://secsports.go.com/statistics/football
Losing West has hurt more than originally thought, but it all starts at the LOS. When a secondary has no confidence in the front 7 stopping the run and there is no pressure on the QB, it's put them in a situation of having to think too much and anticipating having to make plays they should not have to make often.
You could put an entire All SEC secondary on this defense and even they would struggle trying to stay with their assignments as long as the current secondary has to. UK's front seven is a train wreck.
You could put an entire All SEC secondary on this defense and even they would struggle trying to stay with their assignments as long as the current secondary has to. UK's front seven is a train wreck.
Most of the INT's have been thrown right to our DB's and McClain dropped a sure fire one in week one. I'm talking about being constantly out of position, biting on the trick plays and being burned deep before the half in every game.
South Carolina barely beat East Carolina.
UK is going to beat the Gamecocks Saturday.
Pump on that.
UK is going to beat the Gamecocks Saturday.
Pump on that.
I agree here...it is Clinksdale vs. Ansley is the difference.
Let's be honest:
1. I agree a bad front 7 can make the back 4 look bad with no pressure (or vice versa). But we weren't this bad last year in coverage and had a really poor defensive front at getting pressure on QB.
2. Alot of this boils down to blown coverages more than having no pressure on QB.
- So Miss TD before halftime...it was a simple crossing route and we totally non covered and the WR ran for almost all of it.
- UF...we bit on play action and let some routes get behind .
- NMSU game...our safeties once again just blew a few routes that went right past them.
We have no idea who is responsible for areas of the field on deep passes is the problem.
You can't pick and choose what interceptions you like, they all count. Plus the more time the QB has to determine the open receiver, the easier it is for the receiver to reach that spot. Yes they have been fooled badly but that is inexperience.
I disagree with the first part. Most of those INTs were incredible plays. I don't think we have had a secondary in the past decade that would have made most of those plays. Jarmon's one handed INT on a throw that was behind him should have been a Sports Center hightlight play. Edwards also made and incredible play on a ball to deflect a pass that was really a perfect throw and should have been completed. Instead Edward's nice play batted the ball up long enough for McClain to make a diving INT just before it hit the ground. These are all world level plays.
The second part of that statement however is on the money and is what the main issue is. They make an incredible play and then follow it up with about 10 brain dead plays. The INTs are completely offset by the blown coverages that give up TDs.