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This is getting old--being constantly left at the alter.

Don't want to consider WV sources, only national or other sources about where WVUs athletics might be going.

Will post as news and rumors come up:


From CBS 7/23/21:

Here are some options for remaining Big 12 teams when Texas, Oklahoma leave for SEC​


West Virginia: ACC​

The Mountaineers are going to be in a tricky spot if the Big 12 dissolves. It already feels like a fish out of water, and it's not like it fits in other conferences. The Big Ten and ACC only need to add two more to become 16-team superconferences, and one of those ACC spots could be reserved for Notre Dame if it decides to become a full-time member. With that said, Notre Dame is perfectly happy with its independence and will likely hold out in order to keep its own television deal in football. But that might not be much of a factor for West Virginia. A move to the ACC not only keeps the Mountaineers in major college football (at least, as we know it right now), but it will also allow them to rekindle the fierce rivalry with Pittsburgh in the Backyard Brawl on an annual basis. Yes, the two rivals do have a four-game series on the books, but the ACC wouldn't mind that being a conference game.


From Sporting News 7/23/21

A Big 12 without Texas, Oklahoma? Conference's best realignment options​


Big 12 leftovers go to Pac-12​

The Big 12 could jump on the super-conference idea and send anywhere from four- to eight schools to the Pac-12. That would be a tough sell for West Virginia given the geography, but new Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff could work with the other schools.

A football package with Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, TCU and Baylor would give the conference a Texas footprint. A package with Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State would not be as enticing from the football standpoint, but the Jayhawks offer that basketball brand.

Big 12 survives with G5 ​

Didn't we do this a few years ago? The Big 12 could accept the losses and expand with Group of 5 schools such as Cincinnati, Memphis, Houston and UCF or even look at an independent such as BYU. This is more likely the least-appealing option because it would mean the Big 12 would be stuck between the Power 5 and Group of 5, much like the American Athletic Conference it would be raiding.

At that point, why not give North Dakota State a call?

Big 12 could strike back at SEC​

Hey, Texas A&M isn't going to be a fan of Texas and Oklahoma in the SEC. Why not give the Aggies a call? Why you're at it, bring Missouri, Mississippi State and Ole Miss with you. The chances of this happening are minimal, and again, it would not make up for the loss of Oklahoma and Texas.

What about Nebraska?​

Nebraska coach Scott Frost said the program was happy with the Big Ten at Media Days this week, but the Huskers have struggled to build their own identity in the new conference. Nebraska left the Big 12 once. Would they be willing to come back to save a conference with so many question marks?

Why won't this work? ​

The Big 12 has to convince Texas A&M, Nebraska and maybe Colorado and Missouri to come back. That would be a stretch at best. It might be better to start looking at a merger than a stand-alone league.

What is each Big 12's school best move in realignment?​

West Virginia​

Time to look at the Big Ten or ACC superconferences.


From an FSU website:

Roundtable: Will FSU stay in the ACC? Should it?​


So as long as FSU stays relevant for the next 7-10 years, all of this short term conference stuff is interesting to talk about but ultimately not significant for the LONG term. If the ACC is to do anything, in the short-to-medium term, it would be to find a way to lure Notre Dame in as a full-time member, and perhaps kick the tires on West Virginia joining should the Big 12 completely collapse........

Will the ACC give us what they’ve always given us, even when we were leading the conference? If so, pass, eject and fight for the best deal.

Big XII: Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, TCU, West Virginia, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Baylor, Kansas

Currently 10, will have 8 after losing Texas and Okey. They will be scrambling for members, but after losing the Longhorn Network, Texas boosters, and Oklahoma’s annual CFP expectations, who could they bring in to match that economical build, as well as create a better audience? We know from history that a Big East disappeared because of the sucking chest wound the other conferences riddled it with from taking the talent. Obviously if your two top providers of conference money in football leave said conference, does FSU want to leave a stingy conference for another one, with the possibility of conference shuttered in the near future?
 
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What should the ACC & Syracuse do if Oklahoma & Texas opt to start next round of conference realignment?​

https://www.nunesmagician.com/2021/...nsion-start-next-round-conference-realignment

By John Cassillo@JohnCassillo Jul 22, 2021, 11:40am EDT




Adding West Virginia wouldn’t stop a school like Georgia Tech, North Carolina or Duke from leaving for greener pastures (though the latter two aren’t going anywhere). But it would signal to the league’s members that the ACC is once again being proactive as it figures out how to function in this evolving reality. West Virginia’s not in a big market, but has a passionate fan base, a history with many ACC schools and would add valuable inventory on both the football and men’s basketball front. It’s a no-brainer add that the school would probably pursue proactively at this point knowing the Horns and Sooners are eyeing the exits. The ACC should just go ahead and lean into that.
 
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Big 10 will be unable to match that move with getting ISU (which Iowa will fight hard against) and Kansas. Big 10 will want something bigger and shinier.
 
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What Are WVU’s Realignment Options?​


By: Travis Knobbe | July 24, 2021


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So What Are WVU’s Realignment Options?​


We do not, at present, have inside information that we could cite to say one option is more likely than the other. We rely on educated guesses instead, as are most writers at present. Nonetheless, we rank WVU’s realignment options from most to least likely.


WVU Moves to the ACC​


Everything we say in this list comes with the following caveat. Just because the SEC seems set to add two more teams, the remaining Power 5 conferences do not have to follow. If expansion does not advance the others’ goals, the remaining conferences could hold serve. In fact, we cannot argue that any schools likely to consider a move could improve the status of a conference as much as the SEC’s looming (likely) additions. This is just a fact. (Though the networks could compel it regardless.)


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NO conference will add teams that bring in less money than they already are getting. That will leave out many of the teams mentioned to be added. They were left out of the last realignment because they didn't increase the per-school money take of the members. They will be left out again if they don't increase the per-school money take of current members. Why would ANY school take a pay cut to add members?
 
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REPORT: Big 12 discussed a 20-school super-merger with Pac-12​


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It’s insane. It’s crazy. It’s ridiculous. It’s college sports. The Texas-Oklahoma move to the SEC — still not a done deal but increasingly likely — has caused the Big 12 to discuss what seems like an unthinkable idea with the Pac-12.


A merger. A 20-team conference. Iowa State and Washington State being in the same league. West Virginia and USC being in the same league. Baylor and Oregon State being in the same league. TCU and Stanford being in the same league.

The Athletic reports that on the Big 12’s Thursday evening leadership call — which Texas and Oklahoma did not attend — the conference did discuss a possible merger between its eight left-behind teams and the Pac-12.
 
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10 schools it would make sense for the Big Ten to add​



West Virginia​




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Academically, it makes no sense, but we’re disregarding that.
West Virginia has oscillated between being a mediocre-to-very good football team and is no slouch on the hardwood. It definitely has a solid fanbase and while it does good in recruiting, there are no recruits to speak of in the state. Also, there’s essentially no media market to tap into when it comes to the Mountaineers.
 
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Buckaineer said:

REPORT: Big 12 discussed a 20-school super-merger with Pac-12​


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It’s insane. It’s crazy. It’s ridiculous. It’s college sports. The Texas-Oklahoma move to the SEC — still not a done deal but increasingly likely — has caused the Big 12 to discuss what seems like an unthinkable idea with the Pac-12.


A merger. A 20-team conference. Iowa State and Washington State being in the same league. West Virginia and USC being in the same league. Baylor and Oregon State being in the same league. TCU and Stanford being in the same league.

The Athletic reports that on the Big 12’s Thursday evening leadership call — which Texas and Oklahoma did not attend — the conference did discuss a possible merger between its eight left-behind teams and the Pac-12.
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EVERYONE IS SPITBALLING IDEAS. BUT OKLAHOMA AND TEXAS MIGHT BE MAKING A DECISION THAT WILL COST THEM UP TO $200 MILLION! THE EXIT FEE FOR 4 YEARS AND LOSING THE OFFER OF A HALF-SHARE FOR STAYING TOTAL PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT. Oklahoma and Texas would have to weigh a 4-year bailout fee for leaving the Big 12 against an extra half-share for remaining. But the only way Big 12 should make that deal if it Oklahoma and Texas agree to stay for a minimum of 10 more years.
 
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Could West Virginia be ideal Big Ten addition for Penn State Football?​


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West Virginia could be on the verge of joining the Big Ten, which would have major implications for Penn State Football, and the Nittany Lions

Conference realignment rumors are running wild, and there’s a chance Iowa State could join Penn State in the Big Ten as part of the fallout

With rumors of Texas and Oklahoma joining the SEC, speculation is swirling that the Big Ten Conference could pick from the Big 12 carcass, and one name could change the landscape of the Big Ten Conference basketball for Penn State Basketball and the rest of the conference.

One rumor is that West Virginia (along with the Kansas Jayhawks and potentially Iowa State would join the Big Ten, which geographically makes sense.
 
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I think I'll remain calm till the Big 12 and WVU make their official announcements. You guys are SO bored over baseball that you can't wait for WVU football and basketball and will hug anything to talk about in sports. Great entertainment for me, though. Thanks. Why the hell isn't WVU on the field yet kicking off against Maryland?
 
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Ohio State Football: Which schools should Big Ten pursue for expansion?​



Let’s get this out of the way right now: Notre Dame is off the table. They are firmly and happily entrenched in the ACC because that conference will allow them to remain independent in football. The Irish don’t care if they are in the middle of Big Ten country.

They care about keeping all of the money for themselves. They have their own tv contract and don’t have to share any money brought in from playoff appearances and bowl games. That won’t happen if they join the Big Ten. Notre Dame is not a consideration here.

So, who are some schools the Big Ten should look at? One suggestion I saw was TCU. This would allow the conference to have a presence in the large Dallas TV market. But, I think there is another that makes much more sense from a geographic and rivalry standpoint.

In my opinion, Iowa State is a perfect fit for the Big Ten. They sit squarely in the middle of the conference’s West division and they already have a standing rivalry with Iowa. They could easily develop one with Minnesota, Wisconsin, and rekindle pleasantries with former Big XII member Nebraska.

The Cyclones also have a head coach similar to Ryan Day. Matt Campbell is a young, up-and-coming coach who has built a quality program in a place I thought I’d never see. With a twelve-team playoff coming, Iowa State would give the Big Ten a legitimate yearly contender.

If you add a team more suited to the West, it makes sense to add one suited to the East. There is only one team in the Big XII that fits that description: WVU. Yes, I know they’re not exactly glamorous, but, like Iowa State, they make sense again from a geographic and rivalry standpoint.

Penn State and Maryland are longtime rivals of the Mountaineers. Wouldn’t it be much better for the conference to have Penn State end their season with WVU rather than Michigan State? Rutgers and the Mountaineers met for thirty consecutive years when both were either independents or members of the Big East.

Anyone who lives along the Ohio River between Ohio and West Virginia will tell you of the rivalry between the two states. An Ohio State football-WVU yearly meeting would generate a huge amount of interest and give each a rival within easy driving distance.

The two schools are only about 3 ½ hours apart (although Morgantown is the worst college town in the country to get into or out of on game day). WVU may not be a stylish choice, but they make a lot of sense.
 
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A new bridge across the Monongahela River might relieve some of Morgantown’s traffic congestion near neighborhoods, around hospitals and other places lots of people work.
Transportation planners have been studying a new way to get motorists from the northern part of town to Interstate 79, and they are closer to determining where a new bridge and roads will go. They still are accepting public input.

The route planners likely will recommend the Morgantown Monongalia Metropolitan Planning Organization widen a stretch of Van Voorhis Road from two lanes to four, create a three-lane connector to Collins Ferry Road, construct a new bridge across the Mon and build a connector from the bridge to a new interchange that will be built at Pursglove.

 
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ESPN's POV on WVU:
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What's West Virginia's next move if Texas and Oklahoma leave Big 12?​


Heather Dinich breaks down West Virginia's interest in joining the ACC if Texas and Oklahoma leave the Big 12.


 
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Buckaineer said:
Here's the Atlantic article behind the pay wall:

Amid Big 12 instability, West Virginia could look (again) to the ACC for a landing spot​


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Here's a blurb from the Athletic Article:
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The ACC would, obviously, like to add Notre Dame as a full-fledged member. New commissioner Jim Phillips made that clear last week at ACC media days, stating that Notre Dame “(knows) the ACC’s interest. It’s been less than bashful since I’ve been here.” One ACC source told The Athletic on Friday that the expansion conversation “starts and stops” with Notre Dame. “Notre Dame and anyone is a home run,” the source said, adding that WVU would make sense as the 16th ACC member to reunite with the league’s former Big East members. Also of note: Clemson president Jim Clements was president of WVU during the 2011 realignment scramble, and current Mountaineers athletic director Shane Lyons previously spent 10 years as an associate commissioner at the ACC.
College Football Hall of Fame coach Don Nehlen, whose relationship with ex-Big 12 commissioner Chuck Neinas strengthened West Virginia’s realignment cause in 2011, still resides in Morgantown. At age 85, he still keeps up with college athletics and contends the Mountaineers would bolster the ACC in football and basketball.
“The ACC would be a really good fit for us,” Nehlen told The Athletic on Saturday. “This time, we’ve got a gentleman named Gordon Gee who we didn’t have before, and with Clements at Clemson, that would really be two pluses for us.”

Notre Dame has given no indication that it wants to join the ACC as a full member in football, even after the temporary marriage last season worked out quite well for both parties, with the Irish going undefeated in the regular season, reaching the ACC championship game and making the College Football Playoff. Independence is in the Irish’s DNA, athletic director Jack Swarbrick has said, and he cherished that football autonomy enough to sacrifice a first-round bye in an expanded Playoff to maintain it.
Can WVU get the ACC interested on its own? Only time — and discreet conversations — will tell.
 
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