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<blockquote data-quote="Buckaineer" data-source="post: 131728845" data-attributes="member: 1428007"><p>This is getting old--being constantly left at the alter.</p><p></p><p>Don't want to consider WV sources, only national or other sources about where WVUs athletics might be going.</p><p></p><p>Will post as news and rumors come up:</p><p></p><p></p><p>From CBS 7/23/21:</p><p></p><h3>Here are some options for remaining Big 12 teams when Texas, Oklahoma leave for SEC</h3><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/here-are-some-options-for-remaining-big-12-teams-when-texas-oklahoma-leave-for-sec/[/URL]</p><p></p><h2>West Virginia: ACC</h2><p>The Mountaineers are going to be in a tricky spot if the Big 12 dissolves. It already feels like a fish out of water, and it's not like it fits in other conferences. The Big Ten and ACC only need to add two more to become 16-team superconferences, and one of those ACC spots could be reserved for Notre Dame if it decides to become a full-time member. With that said, Notre Dame is perfectly happy with its independence and will likely hold out in order to keep its own television deal in football. But that might not be much of a factor for West Virginia. A move to the ACC not only keeps the Mountaineers in major college football (at least, as we know it right now), but it will also allow them to rekindle the fierce rivalry with Pittsburgh in the Backyard Brawl on an annual basis. Yes, the two rivals do have a four-game series on the books, but the ACC wouldn't mind that being a conference game.</p><p></p><p></p><p>From Sporting News 7/23/21</p><p></p><h3>A Big 12 without Texas, Oklahoma? Conference's best realignment options</h3><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/big-12-realignment-options-without-texas-oklahoma/13qh5w4gwz8yg19xoktitru7k3[/URL]</p><p></p><h2>Big 12 leftovers go to Pac-12</h2><p>The Big 12 could jump on the super-conference idea and send anywhere from four- to eight schools to the Pac-12. That would be a tough sell for West Virginia given the geography, but new Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff could work with the other schools.</p><p></p><p>A football package with Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, TCU and Baylor would give the conference a Texas footprint. A package with Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State would not be as enticing from the football standpoint, but the Jayhawks offer that basketball brand.</p><p></p><h2><em>Big 12 survives with G5 </em></h2><p>Didn't we do this a few years ago? The Big 12 could accept the losses and expand with Group of 5 schools such as Cincinnati, Memphis, Houston and UCF or even look at an independent such as BYU. This is more likely the least-appealing option because it would mean the Big 12 would be stuck between the Power 5 and Group of 5, much like the American Athletic Conference it would be raiding. </p><p></p><p>At that point, why not give North Dakota State a call?</p><p></p><h2><em>Big 12 could strike back at SEC</em></h2><p>Hey, Texas A&M isn't going to be a fan of Texas and Oklahoma in the SEC. Why not give the Aggies a call? Why you're at it, bring Missouri, Mississippi State and Ole Miss with you. The chances of this happening are minimal, and again, it would not make up for the loss of Oklahoma and Texas.</p><p></p><h2><em>What about Nebraska?</em></h2><p>Nebraska coach Scott Frost said the program was happy with the Big Ten at Media Days this week, but the Huskers have struggled to build their own identity in the new conference. Nebraska left the Big 12 once. Would they be willing to come back to save a conference with so many question marks?</p><p></p><h2><em>Why won't this work? </em></h2><p>The Big 12 has to convince Texas A&M, Nebraska and maybe Colorado and Missouri to come back. That would be a stretch at best. It might be better to start looking at a merger than a stand-alone league. </p><p></p><h2>What is each Big 12's school best move in realignment?</h2><h3>West Virginia</h3><p>Time to look at the Big Ten or ACC superconferences. </p><p></p><p></p><p>From an FSU website:</p><p></p><h3>Roundtable: Will FSU stay in the ACC? Should it?</h3><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.tomahawknation.com/florida-state-football-fsu-seminoles/2021/7/23/22590278/roundtable-big-10-12-sec-texas-oklahoma-conference-acc-aac-pac-college-realignment-new-moving-tv[/URL]</p><p></p><p>So as long as FSU stays relevant for the next 7-10 years, all of this short term conference stuff is interesting to talk about but ultimately not significant for the LONG term. If the ACC is to do anything, in the short-to-medium term, it would be to find a way to lure Notre Dame in as a full-time member, and perhaps kick the tires on West Virginia joining should the Big 12 completely collapse........</p><p></p><p>Will the ACC give us what they’ve always given us, even when we were leading the conference? If so, pass, eject and fight for the best deal.</p><p></p><p>Big XII: Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, TCU, West Virginia, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Baylor, Kansas</p><p></p><p>Currently 10, will have 8 after losing Texas and Okey. They will be scrambling for members, but after losing the Longhorn Network, Texas boosters, and Oklahoma’s annual CFP expectations, who could they bring in to match that economical build, as well as create a better audience? We know from history that a Big East disappeared because of the sucking chest wound the other conferences riddled it with from taking the talent. Obviously if your two top providers of conference money in football leave said conference, does FSU want to leave a stingy conference for another one, with the possibility of conference shuttered in the near future?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buckaineer, post: 131728845, member: 1428007"] This is getting old--being constantly left at the alter. Don't want to consider WV sources, only national or other sources about where WVUs athletics might be going. Will post as news and rumors come up: From CBS 7/23/21: [HEADING=2]Here are some options for remaining Big 12 teams when Texas, Oklahoma leave for SEC[/HEADING] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/here-are-some-options-for-remaining-big-12-teams-when-texas-oklahoma-leave-for-sec/[/URL] [HEADING=1]West Virginia: ACC[/HEADING] The Mountaineers are going to be in a tricky spot if the Big 12 dissolves. It already feels like a fish out of water, and it's not like it fits in other conferences. The Big Ten and ACC only need to add two more to become 16-team superconferences, and one of those ACC spots could be reserved for Notre Dame if it decides to become a full-time member. With that said, Notre Dame is perfectly happy with its independence and will likely hold out in order to keep its own television deal in football. But that might not be much of a factor for West Virginia. A move to the ACC not only keeps the Mountaineers in major college football (at least, as we know it right now), but it will also allow them to rekindle the fierce rivalry with Pittsburgh in the Backyard Brawl on an annual basis. Yes, the two rivals do have a four-game series on the books, but the ACC wouldn't mind that being a conference game. From Sporting News 7/23/21 [HEADING=2]A Big 12 without Texas, Oklahoma? Conference's best realignment options[/HEADING] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/big-12-realignment-options-without-texas-oklahoma/13qh5w4gwz8yg19xoktitru7k3[/URL] [HEADING=1]Big 12 leftovers go to Pac-12[/HEADING] The Big 12 could jump on the super-conference idea and send anywhere from four- to eight schools to the Pac-12. That would be a tough sell for West Virginia given the geography, but new Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff could work with the other schools. A football package with Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, TCU and Baylor would give the conference a Texas footprint. A package with Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State would not be as enticing from the football standpoint, but the Jayhawks offer that basketball brand. [HEADING=1][I]Big 12 survives with G5 [/I][/HEADING] Didn't we do this a few years ago? The Big 12 could accept the losses and expand with Group of 5 schools such as Cincinnati, Memphis, Houston and UCF or even look at an independent such as BYU. This is more likely the least-appealing option because it would mean the Big 12 would be stuck between the Power 5 and Group of 5, much like the American Athletic Conference it would be raiding. At that point, why not give North Dakota State a call? [HEADING=1][I]Big 12 could strike back at SEC[/I][/HEADING] Hey, Texas A&M isn't going to be a fan of Texas and Oklahoma in the SEC. Why not give the Aggies a call? Why you're at it, bring Missouri, Mississippi State and Ole Miss with you. The chances of this happening are minimal, and again, it would not make up for the loss of Oklahoma and Texas. [HEADING=1][I]What about Nebraska?[/I][/HEADING] Nebraska coach Scott Frost said the program was happy with the Big Ten at Media Days this week, but the Huskers have struggled to build their own identity in the new conference. Nebraska left the Big 12 once. Would they be willing to come back to save a conference with so many question marks? [HEADING=1][I]Why won't this work? [/I][/HEADING] The Big 12 has to convince Texas A&M, Nebraska and maybe Colorado and Missouri to come back. That would be a stretch at best. It might be better to start looking at a merger than a stand-alone league. [HEADING=1]What is each Big 12's school best move in realignment?[/HEADING] [HEADING=2]West Virginia[/HEADING] Time to look at the Big Ten or ACC superconferences. From an FSU website: [HEADING=2]Roundtable: Will FSU stay in the ACC? Should it?[/HEADING] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.tomahawknation.com/florida-state-football-fsu-seminoles/2021/7/23/22590278/roundtable-big-10-12-sec-texas-oklahoma-conference-acc-aac-pac-college-realignment-new-moving-tv[/URL] So as long as FSU stays relevant for the next 7-10 years, all of this short term conference stuff is interesting to talk about but ultimately not significant for the LONG term. If the ACC is to do anything, in the short-to-medium term, it would be to find a way to lure Notre Dame in as a full-time member, and perhaps kick the tires on West Virginia joining should the Big 12 completely collapse........ Will the ACC give us what they’ve always given us, even when we were leading the conference? If so, pass, eject and fight for the best deal. Big XII: Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, TCU, West Virginia, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Baylor, Kansas Currently 10, will have 8 after losing Texas and Okey. They will be scrambling for members, but after losing the Longhorn Network, Texas boosters, and Oklahoma’s annual CFP expectations, who could they bring in to match that economical build, as well as create a better audience? We know from history that a Big East disappeared because of the sucking chest wound the other conferences riddled it with from taking the talent. Obviously if your two top providers of conference money in football leave said conference, does FSU want to leave a stingy conference for another one, with the possibility of conference shuttered in the near future? [/QUOTE]
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