Probably already been discussed, but this 17'n blows. Football, Sons of Anarchy, American Horror Story... Think I'm gonna switch back to cable. Seems like there's always network drama with Direct TV.
What's the deal with Direct TV losing FSN, FX, Natgeo, etc???
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Probably already been discussed, but this 17'n blows. Football, Sons of Anarchy, American Horror Story... Think I'm gonna switch back to cable. Seems like there's always network drama with Direct TV.
There was a thread yesterday but I'll continue my rant here as well. As a week-long customer with a shiny new two-year contract, I'm pissed to find this out. Not as pissed as I am that I don't have local/network channels in HD but still pissed. I called DTV yesterday about something else and they asked how I was enjoying my service. I explained how I was pissed about the ****** installation job they did, the lack of HD network channels, and the FX, etc fiasco. The lady explained how it was all News Corps. fault and that they would have to raise all their rates just to keep FSN, FX, etc and "that wouldn't be fair to our customers." She then directed me to a website that explains the situation and how evil News Corp is. She also claimed that other providers including Time Warner and Dish Network have already dropped them. Funny thing is I saw a Dish Network commercial two days ago that was using this as leverage, touting that they still have these channels. I'm not sure who is being greedy here and I really don't give a ****. I asked about the possibility of cancelling my contract and she said to wait until next month and call back. Kinda makes me think this is all a negotiating tactic and it may still work out. Probably wishful thinking, though.
In the end, I'll probably just deal with it and wait out my contract and hopefully ATT Uverse is in town by that time. Luckily I'm saving a good $30 a month over the comparable package with Comcast, so that makes it a little easier to swallow.
In the end, I'll probably just deal with it and wait out my contract and hopefully ATT Uverse is in town by that time. Luckily I'm saving a good $30 a month over the comparable package with Comcast, so that makes it a little easier to swallow.
I had Dish Network last year and loved it. Their customer service was great, which I was very surprised about, everyone hates talking to those people. The pricing was always fair and they didn't drop any channels.
I'm not an expert in this but I'm pretty sure you could void your DirectTV contract just for the simple fact that they dropped those channels. I wouldn't switch back to cable again I'm always gonna stick with DishNetwork now especially since they have Blockbuster.
I'm not an expert in this but I'm pretty sure you could void your DirectTV contract just for the simple fact that they dropped those channels. I wouldn't switch back to cable again I'm always gonna stick with DishNetwork now especially since they have Blockbuster.
Your situation sucks with the whole local channel fiasco, but I can see how the customer should be at least partially responsible for that. Dropping channels is a whole different story, though. We signed up with Direct with the understanding that we would be receiving certain channels and if those channels are no longer available at any point of the contract, it seems that it would be within our rights to terminate without penalty.
My gut tells me that Direct will find a way to work this one out with FSN, FX, etc, but I'm afraid that this is going to be an ongoing ordeal for a long time. These cable networks used to be nothing more than tired movie channels, but now that they're producing top notch shows, there's no telling how much more money they're spending now than a few years ago. My guess is that we're coming to the end of the mass cable lineup. I think everything will eventually be split into several blocks of channels and you won't be forced to have all of them, but you'll have to pay more to get what we're currently getting for the standard monthly rate.
My gut tells me that Direct will find a way to work this one out with FSN, FX, etc, but I'm afraid that this is going to be an ongoing ordeal for a long time. These cable networks used to be nothing more than tired movie channels, but now that they're producing top notch shows, there's no telling how much more money they're spending now than a few years ago. My guess is that we're coming to the end of the mass cable lineup. I think everything will eventually be split into several blocks of channels and you won't be forced to have all of them, but you'll have to pay more to get what we're currently getting for the standard monthly rate.
I have directv but I had dish last year and dish went through the same thing with fox sports and someone else. I don't remember exactly but it seems like they were off the air with dish for only a few days, or something like that. Then all was well again. Think about it, who gets hurt worse overall by this, Directv or the actual channel? The channel or their company does. No way will they let it happen for long. I wouldn't worry about it. That's why she said to call back in a month.
They did something similar a couple of years ago with the Versus channel after having a disagreement with Comcast. They actually cut it off for a while, but it was put back on after Comcast buckled, apparently. In the meantime, it sucks really bad because you may miss some games that come on Fox Sports South or Sportsouth. Luckily our game this week is before Nov. 1, and the Middle Tenn. game is on CSS so you won't get it anyway. If somehow the Alabama, Arkansas, or Ole Miss game were going to be on one of those channels it may be missed during this dispute. I am only giving sports examples because I don't really watch any shows that come on FX, so that just compounds the problem for many people.
I do think it is terrible business to hold people to a contract over channels that they advertised, and then took away within 2 weeks. I know Att Uverse was quite forgiving for this. My dad changed over to Uverse back in March because they had a channel listed that he watches probably 4 hours a day on Directv. He got Uverse and the channel was no longer available, it was some obscure broadcast. I called Att for him and they were apologetic and let him out of his contract and he signed back on with Directv. I first thought this may be due to the fact that Att and Directv are affiliated, but he could have signed with any carrier after they voided the contract. But since they are affiliated, I would think Directv may offer the same out for pissed off customers.
I do think it is terrible business to hold people to a contract over channels that they advertised, and then took away within 2 weeks. I know Att Uverse was quite forgiving for this. My dad changed over to Uverse back in March because they had a channel listed that he watches probably 4 hours a day on Directv. He got Uverse and the channel was no longer available, it was some obscure broadcast. I called Att for him and they were apologetic and let him out of his contract and he signed back on with Directv. I first thought this may be due to the fact that Att and Directv are affiliated, but he could have signed with any carrier after they voided the contract. But since they are affiliated, I would think Directv may offer the same out for pissed off customers.
There are a lot of pretty good shows right now and I don't get any premium channels, but I'd cancel dinner plans if I thought I was going to miss one of those two. There are very few dramas that manage to effectively have so many interesting story lines going at once, but they've done it. I just hope they can keep it up and that they don't trash the series by revealing too much in this first season. I feel like they've already wrapped up a couple subplots too quickly like the one with the husband's mistress, but luckily they have enough other things going on to keep things interesting. I'm still intrigued by the psycho friend of their daughter, the intent of the red head, and the unborn baby. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the guy in latex that 17ed the mom in bed was definitely not the husband, right? I think it showed him being down by the fireplace while it was happening. If that's the case, then it will be interesting to see if the baby ends up being theirs or some demon kid.
I agree that the network channel issue is partly my fault for not looking into it. The possibility of the networks not being in HD never crossed my mind though as they were the first to go HD with cable and cable is all I've dealt with before. Just ignorance on my part.
The contract does say something about the channel lineup being subject to change at any point. In my very limited experience with contracts though, I'm not sure that wording holds much water. The contract is based off of Directv providing me tv service. Saying that they can change the tv service at any point seems to undermine the whole point of the contract (other than tying me into term-commitment.) I just think they are hoping people read it and decide there's no point in trying. Kind of like a business having a sign saying they are in no way responsible for damage to your car in their parking lot. That isn't necessarily true, they are just hoping you read it and believe it and get your busted up car off their property without involving them.
I'm definitely going to try to get out if this goes through, although I'll give it a little while to play out and see if it sticks.
The contract does say something about the channel lineup being subject to change at any point. In my very limited experience with contracts though, I'm not sure that wording holds much water. The contract is based off of Directv providing me tv service. Saying that they can change the tv service at any point seems to undermine the whole point of the contract (other than tying me into term-commitment.) I just think they are hoping people read it and decide there's no point in trying. Kind of like a business having a sign saying they are in no way responsible for damage to your car in their parking lot. That isn't necessarily true, they are just hoping you read it and believe it and get your busted up car off their property without involving them.
I'm definitely going to try to get out if this goes through, although I'll give it a little while to play out and see if it sticks.
The husband was definitely down stairs when the wife was getting plowed. I think the psycho kid may be the ghost of the son the neighbor next door said was perfect and she lost him to other things. It's a lot going on with that show right now. I think they have plenty of story line to keep it going for a while. My hope is they don't reveal everything about the house and make the show about the demon baby.
WTF. Perhaps this show isn't for me. <div>Seinfeld said:
</div><div>I'm sure my curiosity will eventually get the better of me though, just like our upcoming Nov 12th game. </div>
I doubt you have more than a month to declare yourself unsatisfied and opt out of your contract. They will tell you it's no problem to wait, then later tell you too bad now you're locked in to the contact. I know because that's what they did to me over my 1st year discount.
On locals, it's probably a local station that's partly at fault. Direct TV wants all the locals to be im either HD or SD, otherwise some people will need extra equipment. There's probably one station lagging on HD availability to DirectTV, so they are sticking with all SD for locals. Hell, antenna reception is better for HD anyway, because it's uncompressed. No artifacts from smoke or dark scenes.
On locals, it's probably a local station that's partly at fault. Direct TV wants all the locals to be im either HD or SD, otherwise some people will need extra equipment. There's probably one station lagging on HD availability to DirectTV, so they are sticking with all SD for locals. Hell, antenna reception is better for HD anyway, because it's uncompressed. No artifacts from smoke or dark scenes.
...News Corp, which is run by the highly corrupt Rupert Murdock, who also owns & runs Fox News, is pulling this ********.
Murdock is currently in hot water in England for various crimes (phone hacking, etc) so I suppose this 40% hike on FX & the other News Corp channels is the result of some type of News Corp boardroom freakout.
http://www.smh.com.au/wor...doch-20111021-1mc5y.html
Murdock is currently in hot water in England for various crimes (phone hacking, etc) so I suppose this 40% hike on FX & the other News Corp channels is the result of some type of News Corp boardroom freakout.
http://www.smh.com.au/wor...doch-20111021-1mc5y.html
Don't know if they were doing this all night or not, but during American Horror Story, FX aired 5-6 segments where the show's creators were blasting Direct TV. FX also ran a little banner for the first 10 minutes or so talking about how it was all DTV's fault. So then around the half hour mark, DTV puts up their own banner saying that FX wants "YOU" to pay 40% more for its channels. I swear it's like two 6-year-olds fighting and it was pissing me off while I was trying to watch a good show.
The only good news I saw was that DTV kept saying that FX would be "suspended" starting Nov 1st so that leads me to believe that they're planning on somehow reaching a deal at some point.
The only good news I saw was that DTV kept saying that FX would be "suspended" starting Nov 1st so that leads me to believe that they're planning on somehow reaching a deal at some point.
I have DirecTv but I would almost guarantee you that this is a ******** thing telling you to wait 30 days. I would almost guarantee you that you could get out of a contract before 30 days is up. After that, you are committed. Kind of like the lemon law for cars and stuff...
I've only had it since the 16th so I have a little time to decide. I'm honestly so sick of thinking about it I just want to give up. I really don't want to go through the hassle of sending back the boxes and dealing with comcast's install. I'm currently going through a bunch of **** to get my internet working too. I'm about ready to say f*ck it and move on.
You can pick up your local channels by simply using an antenna, and it's free. That's what I do mostly as a backup to Dish, but also because in Huntsville Dish doesn't carry the PBS station in HD. By using an antenna, you can also get all the sub-channels that are not carried at all on Dish. I have my antenna in my attic. You can also run the antenna feed through your DirecTV or Dish set top box.<div>
</div><div>Regarding Fox Sports, etc. .... Dish hasn't dropped them regardless of what the Customer Service Rep at DirecTV told you. I'm watching FSN right now.</div>
</div><div>Regarding Fox Sports, etc. .... Dish hasn't dropped them regardless of what the Customer Service Rep at DirecTV told you. I'm watching FSN right now.</div>
Comcast is adding HD channels left and right. I don't think DirecTV has added more than a couple non-premium HD channels in years.<div>
</div><div>I'm really pissed that they don't carry H2 in HD. H2 is The History Channel's 2nd channel. The History Channel recently moved The Universe over to H2. ****. I'm not going to watch a SD channel on my HDTV. Just not gonna happen.</div><div>
</div><div>They still don't have IFC in HD. WTF, DirecTV? They probably don't want a good HD channel that competes with premium content.</div><div>
</div><div>If not for my contract, I'd probably switch to Comcast. That's saying a lot. I've been an anti-cable guy. I've been a loyal DirecTV for about a decade.</div>
</div><div>I'm really pissed that they don't carry H2 in HD. H2 is The History Channel's 2nd channel. The History Channel recently moved The Universe over to H2. ****. I'm not going to watch a SD channel on my HDTV. Just not gonna happen.</div><div>
</div><div>They still don't have IFC in HD. WTF, DirecTV? They probably don't want a good HD channel that competes with premium content.</div><div>
</div><div>If not for my contract, I'd probably switch to Comcast. That's saying a lot. I've been an anti-cable guy. I've been a loyal DirecTV for about a decade.</div>
H2 is on Channel 121 on Dish (and in HD, by the way). H2 appeared a couple of weeks ago and occupies the same channel as History International did. Are they not the same with a different name?<div>
</div><div>And what is IFC? There are too many channels to keep up with.</div><div>
</div><div>I've only got a couple of complaints about Dish ... they don't carry ESPNU in HD, and they don't carry CSS at all (but it's a Comcast exclusive ... perhaps college football should look into not accepting bids from proprietary channels such as CSS).</div>
</div><div>And what is IFC? There are too many channels to keep up with.</div><div>
</div><div>I've only got a couple of complaints about Dish ... they don't carry ESPNU in HD, and they don't carry CSS at all (but it's a Comcast exclusive ... perhaps college football should look into not accepting bids from proprietary channels such as CSS).</div>
is the baby that was dismemebered and put back together by the mad doctor dad. It looked to me that not all the baby came back in the jars and he may have had to use some animal parts. I really hope the mentally handicapped girl next door doesn't die. her mom dragged her onto the house lawn so maybe she ends up being a ghost too.
<div>RocketDawg said:
</div>History axed History International and now just has History and H2.<div>
</div><div>IFC = Independent Film Channel. They show, you guessed it, independent films - even big hit films that happen to be independent like Sideways, Pulp Fiction, etc.</div><div>
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I've also been a customer for about a decade, but will seriously think about bolting if they drop the Fox sports channels.
The problem is that there is no guarantee that the same **** won't happen with my choice (on the coast) for a cable company (Cable One). My buddy lives in Spanish Fort, AL and has Mediacom cable. All NFL games played on Fox (including the Saints) are blacked out there currently due to a disagreement between Fox and Mediacom.
The problem is that there is no guarantee that the same **** won't happen with my choice (on the coast) for a cable company (Cable One). My buddy lives in Spanish Fort, AL and has Mediacom cable. All NFL games played on Fox (including the Saints) are blacked out there currently due to a disagreement between Fox and Mediacom.
Kaitlyn Olsen from Always Sunny saying Directv and Fox came to an agreement. Assuming this includes Fox Sports, Nat. Geo., etc. Good news.