WHC week 3 Picks

Owen Stampede

All-Conference
Jul 20, 2006
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3 way ties arent our thing. Winning outright is the way to do it. Undefeated in WHC play is the way to do it.
 

Owen Stampede

All-Conference
Jul 20, 2006
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In fact since 93 Mitchell has had 4 1 win seasons. Not only that they had a 11 loss season not too long ago. Plus the winning % at Mitchell is under .500 despite those cream puff schedules.
 

Appvol

All-American
Jul 11, 2005
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I know that, not trying to offend you and yours or throw off on cloudland.

I’m not offended.Right now we couldn’t stay on field with you guys. Last year we could of made you work a little. Man when you have a good program it’s hard to find teams to play. The conference is hard enough why would you schedule really good teams for all your non conference games. I would want 2 cupcake games on my schedule out of 11 game schedule. I noticed Owen has only a 10 game schedule is there a reason for that or is a game missing on the schedule.
 

Appvol

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98 not trying to make you mad but this is a 1a/2a conference. Really why should the 1a schools care if they beat the 2a schools. All that matters is if you win the 1a games.I know Owen has been down a little but since Pitman has become the coach at Mitchell. Mitchell is 4-1 against Owen and has outscored Owen 211-92
 
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Owen Stampede

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Jul 20, 2006
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I know he has but like you said we have been down. Way down. It is turning around now though
 

Owen Stampede

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It is. Padgett has had a battle with keeping kids and getting them to buy in. Coach Ford is Owen football but we are in a new chapter and I like the direction.
 

Appvol

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Where my son plays at Cloudland Mike Lunsford retired.It’s hard to get kids to come out especially when there is only around 215 kids.Got 26 on the team and only about 15 really play. I think we are in for some tough years.
 

wncbowhunter

All-Conference
Dec 21, 2002
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Avery, prove me right Viking.
Polk
Rosman
AC. Man, I really want to pick Owen in this one. Pull off the upset Warhorses
Heritage
Mitchell

No doubt that Owen has a better history than Mitchell in football. No one can argue that. As far as conference no one has had anything for Heritage lately. Come playoffs, yep the SMC has gotten the better of Mitchell (as they have with most teams across the state). When was the last time Owen played for a title? Oh, how bout regional finals, I think it was in '91. So been a while there as well. Mitchell has 3 regional games and a title appearance in 15. So while the overall wins/lose is definitely in Owen's favor seems Mitchell has had better playoff results. Maybe Mitchell's schedule isn't that bad after all.

But...but Mitchell gets to play in the 1a or 1aa playoffs while Owen has to play in 2a, yep that is the purpose of classifications. Play schools of similar size. You know based on school size Mitchell should NEVER lose to Owen in Any sport. So I think all in all, Mitchell does pretty well being the smallest school in the WHC.

No one has given MCM a good answer on the schedule yet, no a good answer is not, better than you have now. If Mitchell is only allowed to play larger schools why can the schools they play get to play a smaller school? Now I do think Owen has a really good schedule.

Think I heard the other day that across all sports Mitchell has like 42 or 43 state titles in 41 years of being a high school. Titles in wrestling, track, womens basketball. And a title appearance in football, not bad the way I figure it. I know these numbers don't measure up to some schools across WNC. ( talking to the SMC here) How does Owen's overall numbers look, I honestly do not know.

Anyway, back on topic. Good luck to all WHC teams this week. I like it when all teams are really good.

Go Mountaineers
 

Owen Stampede

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I dont think you have to play bigger schools like 3a and 4a but you could play East Rutherford, Burns, Thomas Jefferson, Chase. Teams like that. They are all 2a but Thomas Jefferson.
 

Owen Stampede

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What did Mitchell do in the 2a playoffs when they were 2a if you wanna act like the 1a playoff production is so impressive?
 

Mitchell county mountie

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Aug 27, 2015
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Chase? Hell fire, Trinity is better than Chase. It's not smart to schedule teams you might see in the playoffs, so that takes out TJ, Burns and East Rutherford wouldn't be bad, but who's to say they would agree to a home and away series? R-S Central's coach told Pittman they wouldn't be playing again while shaking hands at the end of the last game.
 
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Owen Stampede

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Jul 20, 2006
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Owen played Franklin and Brevard. We could have played them in the playoffs. That's a copout. TJ would be a good game for yall
 

Rocketman101

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Well that's about the only thing you can look at last year a give an educated guess. Maybe a Mtn Heritage fan in the forum who saw both games last year can give thier thought in comparisons but it still just a guess, but you posted like it was a certain thing that Brevard would have trounced Mitchell last year, so what facts do you base that on?
Honestly brevard would have beat mitchell last year. No knock against mitchell .
 
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wncbowhunter

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What did Mitchell do in the 2a playoffs when they were 2a if you wanna act like the 1a playoff production is so impressive?

I will honestly have to go back and look, it wasn't pretty though. Just as it wasn't great when Mitchell was 3a. But again it was against teams of similar size. I maybe weird but I do like to compare apples to apples.

I would like to see Mitchell schedule TJA again as well as those others. But as was mentioned in an earlier thread Mitchell's location in reference to the schools you mentioned is another issue. Most don't want to travel that far when they can fill a schedule closer. I do think that the Erwin and Franklin games are good for Mitchell. Both of these schools have been really good for several years. So with the conference looking like it is on a major up swing, and a game against McDowell, overall this years schedule "should" be better than the past few. No doubt that Cabarrus/Canon and Trinity are weak but most smaller 1a schools end up with at least 1 of these type games. The Canon game has already been explained and I was told that Trinity was added a few years back when no one else was available the only week Mitchell had available. Now I agree it is time for them to go.

As far as the future I think unless injuries derail things Mitchell will be very competitive for the next 4 or 5 years. After that ???

Go Mountaineers
 
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Rocketman101

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Apr 25, 2006
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Guys I went and watch owen scimmage mcdowell, believe me owen looks like totally different team.
 

Owen Stampede

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Mitchell is not closer to Franklin and Erwin than some of those schools. It's not like Mitchell is right in the middle of 50. Civilization. Those are doable games
 

Rocketman101

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Apr 25, 2006
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Mtn heritage jv team is loaded this year, their line is bigger then our varsity. Just like the varsity their defense is nasty.
 

wncbowhunter

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Guys I went and watch owen scimmage mcdowell, believe me owen looks like totally different team.

Oh, I have no doubt about that. Would not surprise me at all to see them win the conference. I thought they were better than their record last year. With the addition on Gibbs back from Christ school, the rb from McDowell and another year in the new system under their belt. I expect them to beat one of if not both Mitchell or Heritage.

Shoot wouldn't surprise me to see Polk in the mix as well. I think conference play will be very interesting.

Go Mountaineers
 
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Mitchell county mountie

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I just don't understand the sudden urge to spout ugliness Stampede? I mean you be stayed pretty humble these last couple years since you threw your big temper tantrum and left the boards for a while. Shoot, me and you talked for 2 hours at last year's game. I guess beating East Henderson by 2 scores is a good enough reason to talk **** again. I'll see ya October 11th. We'll let the teams decide.
 
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Owen Stampede

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I never left the boards. I've been here the whole time. Just didnt have alot to brag about. Besides that even in 2014 I didnt go to the lengths you guys have in bragging. I liked our talk but the enormous disrespect that many of you all have showed The Warhorses and myself the last few years on here deserves a rebuttal. I feel very confident we are back and thought that before East Henderson. I cant wait till conference play.
 
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Moparforever

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Aug 10, 2017
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Chase? Hell fire, Trinity is better than Chase. It's not smart to schedule teams you might see in the playoffs, so that takes out TJ, Burns and East Rutherford wouldn't be bad, but who's to say they would agree to a home and away series? R-S Central's coach told Pittman they wouldn't be playing again while shaking hands at the end of the last game.
Yeah a school with 800+ students does not like getting boxed in the ears by a small 1a school and having to drive up the mountain to get it. I’m sure with the school size and location it’s hard to get many great games. Lots to lose nothing to gain. My 2cents worth :)
 

Owen Stampede

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I would rather not play Cannon but as I've post before the one reason Mitchell plays them the Cannon couch and Pittman are good friends from playing football at Western Carolina together. But there has also been scheduling issues with other teams.
As far as Mitchell flat out turning down anyone , someone else meantion Watauga but I haven't found anyone associated with the football program that ever heard of that happening, I'm not saying anyone is lying but even if they did I don't believe Pittman would flat out refuse there sometimes schedule issues or commitments already made to other schools.(I know some others to ask and maybe one of the other Mitchell fans know more about it) but on the other hand I have been told by some of them that a 3A school did turn Mitchell saying if they took a chance on a 1A school and lost the game hurts thier playoff position.
Owen and Mitchell both play East Henderson and Franklin, Owen plays 0-2 North Henderson ,. Mitchell plays 1-1 Trinity.
Mitchell plays neighboring county McDowell but that goes back to the Bowman-Harris days. Owen does play A/C Reynolds , Mitchell picked up Erwin who might be down this year but you can't predict the future they've always had good teams. Plus there the fact that several teams have dropped Mitchell over the last few years.
But while would like for Mitchell to play a better team , and I'll agree playing quality teams can make you a better team, I don't believe playing Cannon is the reason Mitchell hasn't won a state championship.

Padding it pretty good with Owen.

Take a seat Shirley. Owen isn't anywhere where they used to be. They've won exactly 1 game this year. It's a little early to be flapping gums. Stay within 3 scores of ACR and then we'll take notice. I'm glad that they are improving, but there's not need to accuse Pittman of padding his stats. And fyi, Avery plays cloudland. Mitchell would fertilize the field with the highlanders most every year.

I never chimed in till Owen was being slighted. Then your ugliness started.
 

Owen Stampede

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Jul 20, 2006
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I just don't understand the sudden urge to spout ugliness Stampede? I mean you be stayed pretty humble these last couple years since you threw your big temper tantrum and left the boards for a while. Shoot, me and you talked for 2 hours at last year's game. I guess beating East Henderson by 2 scores is a good enough reason to talk **** again. I'll see ya October 11th. We'll let the teams decide.

It was 3 scores. We scored 3 TDs more. They got a 2 point conversion and a safety. 42-24. We played like it was our first game in the first half. After that it was on.
 

Mitchell county mountie

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Aug 27, 2015
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Please. No need to play the victim here. No one had said a word, not one single word about Owen in this thread and you post this:
Again. Owen has been 1-9, 1-9, 1-9 and 4-7 and plays a tougher schedule than Mitchell. Come on man. Stop making excuses. Pittman is padding his record. Brevard last year and ACR every year would trounce Mitchell.
Tell me, why is it ok for ACR to schedule an easy non conference game, and it's not for Mitchell?
 
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