When did the Hump turn into a nursing home?
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from the people at home complaining about the ones that at least bought a ticket and went to the game!
Well, since there are no tickets to buy, the ones that posess them need to show up. And when they show up, they need to let the team know they are sitting in the Hump.
From the LSU game Wednesday night, January 25, 2012--the game to which you refer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiiMntn-yAU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiiMntn-yAU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
it sounds decent..But the first 35 min were weak compared to years past.. and the Dawg Pound is worse than the Rowdies
I did hear a few "He's been doing it all night"....and "Sit down Johnson!!!"..."from the older men.....and a couple of "Come on Sidney!!!" but other that hardly no cheering whatsoever....I for one was yelling like I was in the student section...sad thing is I felt out of place..and everyone was staring at me like i was crazy......
This team is such a SLOW starter every game....that by the time everyone is in their seats....the team has made one shot, bricked 4 to 6 others, turned it over 3 times, gave up 2 easy layups and a wide open 3 and made it to the first TV time out down by 7. Just seems like that is what the fans expect and it just takes the wind out of their sails and voila'.....you have a wake atmosphere until the Dawgs finally wake up.
There are 3 certain things: Death, Taxes....and a slow starting MSU Basketball Team. I was so pissed at the "dribbling" around mid court philosophy with less than 3 to go and up by 9, that I actually applauded LSU's 3's because it meant our team was actually going to have to score more to win than trying to coast in. If you have 40 minutes of hell defense, then by all means stall away the last few minutes up 9 or 10. If you allow a team to run the shot clock down to under 5 on over 50% of their possessions and they still get off an open shot or a layup (even if they miss a few) you ain't playing sound defense. You are playing for luck that the other team will miss a bunch of shots. And some times the luck is wearing the other color, like in the last 2 minutes tonight before they had to foul every trip.
There are 3 certain things: Death, Taxes....and a slow starting MSU Basketball Team. I was so pissed at the "dribbling" around mid court philosophy with less than 3 to go and up by 9, that I actually applauded LSU's 3's because it meant our team was actually going to have to score more to win than trying to coast in. If you have 40 minutes of hell defense, then by all means stall away the last few minutes up 9 or 10. If you allow a team to run the shot clock down to under 5 on over 50% of their possessions and they still get off an open shot or a layup (even if they miss a few) you ain't playing sound defense. You are playing for luck that the other team will miss a bunch of shots. And some times the luck is wearing the other color, like in the last 2 minutes tonight before they had to foul every trip.
That video was the loudest moment at the game. It got loud maybe 2 or 3 times and that would only last for just about 30 seconds and people would sit down. It's the worst I have ever seen it in there as compared when I went to almost every game from 2001-2008.
I looked at her like she'd lost her mind, and wanted to tell her to get her butt up and yell. Me and my buds stood up and eventually made the folks behind us have to stand up if they wanted to see anything. You spend that much money for tickets and you sit on your hands during the game? Enjoy yourself while you're there. If you want to sit down the whole game, stay on the couch! I used to have an old man with a cane behind me, and he'd poke me with it telling me to sit down. I did for him a bunch because bless his heart he couldn't get up and down too much. But he did it one time in the heat of a game and I turned around and told him that I'll be damned if I'm gonna sit down. I paid for these tickets and I'm gonna stand if I want to. He didn't poke me anymore, but I did try to be courteous as I could for him later. I felt sorry for Mea at the 'Bama game. Yes, I get tired of the whiny defense chant, but she was trying hard to get everybody to stand and cheer and nothing.It really hasn't been the same since after the first year the seating changed, and really got screwed up when we moved the students around. But this season, the student section is sucking for the most part as well. I hope it picks up because this team deserves good crowds to help them try to win games.
Ok we've been catching a lot of flack lately from the rest of the Bulldog Nation and rightly so...
There are multiple reasons why students seem reluctant to stand up and cheer.
1) Rick's Rowdies:
The student body just doesn't want to be associated with that freak show. Yes, I know it's now the "Dawg Pound", but it is the same group. If you are a Rowdy and reading this: <span style="text-decoration: underline;">PLEASE GO SIT UP IN THE RAFTERS.</span>
2) Bury Ball:
We've seen it a million times. Enough said.
3) Greeks:
The Greek body tries to distance itself the farthest from the Rick's Rowdies crew and rightly so. They are at opposite ends of the spectrum. However it's gotten to the extent that they are screaming sit down to all the students caught in between the two groups. If you are Greek and reading this: <span style="text-decoration: underline;">PLEASE GO SIT UP IN THE RAFTERS</span>.
4) We are a football school
There are multiple reasons why students seem reluctant to stand up and cheer.
1) Rick's Rowdies:
The student body just doesn't want to be associated with that freak show. Yes, I know it's now the "Dawg Pound", but it is the same group. If you are a Rowdy and reading this: <span style="text-decoration: underline;">PLEASE GO SIT UP IN THE RAFTERS.</span>
2) Bury Ball:
We've seen it a million times. Enough said.
3) Greeks:
The Greek body tries to distance itself the farthest from the Rick's Rowdies crew and rightly so. They are at opposite ends of the spectrum. However it's gotten to the extent that they are screaming sit down to all the students caught in between the two groups. If you are Greek and reading this: <span style="text-decoration: underline;">PLEASE GO SIT UP IN THE RAFTERS</span>.
4) We are a football school
So, basically- change the seating arrangement and get a new basketball coach? I'm down with that.
Maybe we should do away with the Rick's Rowdy Pound all-together. Just eliminate it. Maybe eventually they would die/graduate off and that would solve that. Personally, I think all "student support groups" in basketball are pretty lame at any school. Yep, even the Cameron Crazies. Just have the student section. That way you won't have a group of misfits that people aren't going to want to associate with.
The Greeks are Greeks. They're going to do what they do. It is what it is. I am pretty sure eiliminating fraternities is a really bad idea, so everyone else that is not greek is just going to have to suffer. Reserving seats for them in the back is not going to go over well either.
Firing Stansbury- refer to Coach34.
And you forgot your sarcasterisks by comment number four.
Maybe we should do away with the Rick's Rowdy Pound all-together. Just eliminate it. Maybe eventually they would die/graduate off and that would solve that. Personally, I think all "student support groups" in basketball are pretty lame at any school. Yep, even the Cameron Crazies. Just have the student section. That way you won't have a group of misfits that people aren't going to want to associate with.
The Greeks are Greeks. They're going to do what they do. It is what it is. I am pretty sure eiliminating fraternities is a really bad idea, so everyone else that is not greek is just going to have to suffer. Reserving seats for them in the back is not going to go over well either.
Firing Stansbury- refer to Coach34.
And you forgot your sarcasterisks by comment number four.
If people are afraid to make noise because they might have to sit next to high school "outcasts" at a 17ing basketball game, then they are the problem.<div>
</div><div>When I was at State, it didn't matter if you were sitting next to a scantily clad cleat-chasing *****, a dude dressed like Batman characters, a man thirty years past his prime mysteriously showing up in the student section, a giant retard who loves Mississippi State and the city of Starkville, or anyone else in the god damn Hump ... you make noise when our team makes or needs a 17ing play.</div><div>
</div><div>That was only a few years ago. You little ***** are pathetic.</div>
</div><div>When I was at State, it didn't matter if you were sitting next to a scantily clad cleat-chasing *****, a dude dressed like Batman characters, a man thirty years past his prime mysteriously showing up in the student section, a giant retard who loves Mississippi State and the city of Starkville, or anyone else in the god damn Hump ... you make noise when our team makes or needs a 17ing play.</div><div>
</div><div>That was only a few years ago. You little ***** are pathetic.</div>
And now, the loudest the crowd got was when the kid made the 10th ping-pong ball in the damn cup at the halftime show. People are louder trying to get the attention of the t-shirt shooter than they are after B. Bryants dunk. Seriously, prior to the last minute of the game, the crowds loudest moment was during the ping-pong toss. I've been going to MSU basketball games a long time, and I have never seen anything like it. I had never seen a student section at Mississippi State sit down during the game until this year. Many of the season ticket holders were no shows. I could understand it if we were 8-13. But we are a top 20 team, 17-4, and coming off one of the biggest road wins our basketball program has seen in a few years. I do not get it. The "I dont want to be associated with that group of students" is laughable. It truly is ridiculous.
Bring back Hank Flick. Our pregame team intro is boring. I miss the old Hump.
hankp
Bring back Hank Flick. Our pregame team intro is boring. I miss the old Hump.
hankp
we wanted that place to be as loud as humanly possible. When David Domingue laid out that Arkansas guard, the roof almost came off of the building. When we played #1 Florida with Noah, I couldn't hear the guy next to me, and that was years after I graduated. These excuses are pathetic.
I was in the second row and yelled so much at Noah that he came down the court after making a shot and slowed and pointed directly at me. The student crowd went ballistic. Ugliest big man ever to step on the Hump's court. Glad as he'll he didn't pull a Ron Artest though.
The Hump hasn't looked like that for a while.
The Hump hasn't looked like that for a while.
I honestly thought before conference play when I attended a game that he was just a fill-in until the "real games" started......I was shocked that he was still doing it...I agree with having a high energy person on a mic to try and get the crowd going ala NBA games...but with the demographics of our crowd it just don't work and its downright awkward....I really hope they decide to go another direction with that area of the game.....
your missing the point people!!!! You need to focus on whats happening on the court and not your 17'n status quo....unreal
the difference between the cameron crazies and the other student cheer groups is that the entire student section is the cameron crazies and it evolved naturally, beginning with an nickname from the media. they don't have uniform cameron crazy shirts or anything. everyone that sits in the student section at duke is a cameron crazy by default. <div>Todd4State said:
</div><div>everywhere else is just admin trying to manufacture a student cheer group. they should just let it go. </div>
<p style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt" class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri">The insanely loud students "back in the day" are the Alumni in the stands now.
The Alumni that used to yell at games are still in the seats.
Students have been and will always be fickle.
The fact is the product that has been on display for the last several years has not been fun to watch. Exasperating, disappointing, and sometimes embarrassing but not fun. The good old days that everyone references had teams that the fans had confidence in. Now I spend most of the game waiting for the meltdown and getting frustrated by sloppy play. We can blow any lead and get behind by any margin to any team on our schedule. Name one team on our schedule that you are 100% confident that we will beat? How about 1 team that you can guarantee we won’t get embarrassed by? You can't, and that's the problem. It's hard to get excited about these teams when you can't really enjoy the game. Listen the next time you’re at the game. The cheers are all interspersed with "here we go again" or "are we really going into the stall?"</font></p>
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The Alumni that used to yell at games are still in the seats.
Students have been and will always be fickle.
The fact is the product that has been on display for the last several years has not been fun to watch. Exasperating, disappointing, and sometimes embarrassing but not fun. The good old days that everyone references had teams that the fans had confidence in. Now I spend most of the game waiting for the meltdown and getting frustrated by sloppy play. We can blow any lead and get behind by any margin to any team on our schedule. Name one team on our schedule that you are 100% confident that we will beat? How about 1 team that you can guarantee we won’t get embarrassed by? You can't, and that's the problem. It's hard to get excited about these teams when you can't really enjoy the game. Listen the next time you’re at the game. The cheers are all interspersed with "here we go again" or "are we really going into the stall?"</font></p>
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I got there four hours before the game, drank limon cello in line with my boys. Rushed in as soon as they opened the doors and still was at the top of the bottom section. It was loud as ****. That's when they had the bleachers up next to the court. There's so much wasted space around the court now. Back in the day, everyone was right on top of the players. It was truly a home court advantage. It's nothing even close to that now. It will never be like it used to be unless they stop giving the nerds top seating priority and get some bleachers where the students can get right up in the action. Simple as that.
Reading this makes me realize that there are more things that unite us than divide us.
We both hate Bama. We both think UK gets every call in basketball. We both have basketball coaches that rarely run an offensive play. We both have three different recruiting sites covering fairly average recruiting results and now we both have preppy *** students that don't want to cheer with the nerd students who just want to cheer for their school.
We are the University of Mississippi State. One state, one school.
We both hate Bama. We both think UK gets every call in basketball. We both have basketball coaches that rarely run an offensive play. We both have three different recruiting sites covering fairly average recruiting results and now we both have preppy *** students that don't want to cheer with the nerd students who just want to cheer for their school.
We are the University of Mississippi State. One state, one school.
It's not a 17ing popularity contest, it's a basketball game. I've sat in a lot of different places in the Hump (from childhood to college to now) and I never let who was sitting next to me affect how much I cheered or yelled. After years of watching my dad scream at officials game after game and high-fiving random people around us, I think a lot of that probably rubbed off on me. When we throw down a huge dunk, knock down a three, or start a fast break I get on my feet. When we need a stop on D late in the game, then I'm up wearing my voice out.<div>
</div><div>I've never helped the Candyman hand out peppermints or put a wig on with the Rick's Rowdies, but if I had to sit next to them it wouldn't bother me a bit. I agree our play can be one of the most infuriating things in the world at times, and a lot of that is on coaching, but we have a damn good group of players and we're ranked in the Top 25. Try to enjoy it a little.</div>
</div><div>I've never helped the Candyman hand out peppermints or put a wig on with the Rick's Rowdies, but if I had to sit next to them it wouldn't bother me a bit. I agree our play can be one of the most infuriating things in the world at times, and a lot of that is on coaching, but we have a damn good group of players and we're ranked in the Top 25. Try to enjoy it a little.</div>
What a terrible excuse. First off, the SEC is MUCH better this year than last. From here on out, every team we play is going to try to steal a win from us. LSU has been a VERY respectable team this year... as has Alabama and Arkansas... even Tennessee has won a few good games... but our fans show ZERO respect for them because they "suck." LSU came in last night and gave us their best effort and we were able to win the game at the end, and we played very hard, too. We weren't looking past them. But hell, just because long jump shots aren't falling every time we put one up doesn't mean we have a terrible product on the floor. I remember 3 or 4 alley-oops last night and it was ridiculously quiet even after those.GoodBourbon said:
I guess everyone expects us to be hitting transition 3s and dunking over everyone night-in and night-out and disregards the fact LSU came in and gave us hell for 40 minutes, and we still won the game. The score probably doesn't show how convincing it was, but come on... disappointing? Really?
i agree with the wasted space/bleachers comment. i think that's the biggest difference between when i was in school and when i watch from afar now andoccasionallymake it back for a game. the best CBB atmospheres have the students literally feet from the court, not behind a railing with padded seats sitting 10 feet back from the court.lars larson said:
GoodBourbon said:
ever recall seeing such apthetic and lousy excuses in my entire life.
I started going to games when Babe was coaching and we played in the 'old gym.' There was no smaller or LOUDER venue in the SEC! You showed up early or you didn't get a seat and you sat by 'whoever' sat next to you. When you did sit down, you sat on wooden bleachers.
After Babe was fired, the program went in the sewer. We lived through the Joe Dan Gold, Kermit Davis, Jim Hatfield, Bob Boyd and majority of Richard Williams years. Winning years were few. BUT there was one constant ... we cheered hard for the team, win or lose.
What a spoiled **** attitude YOU have and I just don't get it. Not standing or cheering 'cause you don't want to be associated with other 'students.' No 'confidence' in the team?
NEWS FLASH ... You ARE there in the 'good old days.' Just look at the record book. Not since Babe was fired in '65 have we put a better 'product' on the floor.
I just hope YOU don't actually represent a majority of students.
//rant over.
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